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Originally Posted by Bgwillyelise

Before i pay $1300.00 for random I/C that looks identical to a Cup I/C. Lots of dyno proven scenarios will have to be posted.

Other than "looks" there's a lot more to an IC as I'm sure you must realize. And unless we are engineers, it's not that easy to understand.

And note it doesn't make sense to ask a designer/engineer for every design detail. One, most potential buyers wouldnt be able to use the info for an educated decision anyways, we'll just end up thinking we are more clever than we really are. Two if every engineer was put under this kind of interrogation, I doubt they'd even bother (espcially those doing this more for fun rather than profit). Three, try asking Greddy, ARC, HKS, Lotus sport for their specs and doubt they'd return your call.

Even if Thomasio is making money over break even, is there something wrong with that? Shouldn't those who benefit reward others for their own benefit? Isn't this one of the core components for a healthy free market capitalist society? Personally I am grateful that small companies like RLS exist because I do not have the knowhow nor sources to do the same. Supporting him where I can makes more sense IMO.

"random"? RSL/Thomasio is a well known member of this community. A good person and an engineer. Just because a brand is established or globally marketed, doesn't make that product any more/less questiontionable.

And agreed, as with any other IC offering data support is useful, which RSL has stated, are coming. For air to air, I believe the only other IC scenerio is the CUP IC. For an IC with water/meth capabilities, I don't know of any other turn key solutions.

The point is this is a one man band, putting time and effort into R&D to offer a solution that costs less money than relevant bolt on systems. Give him a chance to show us before judgments are made.

Originally Posted by Bgwillyelise

And the above poster is right. $1300+ for an I/C of this size is a pretty much a lot on the high side.

Yes 1300+ taking the aggregate average of all street car ICs of this size (and no other variables) on the market does put this product in the top price quartile. So what?

Originally Posted by Bgwillyelise

A simple google search for Intercoolers and you would have a hard time finding any I/C that is more expensive than $1300.00. I bet we could contact Spearco and they would fabricate a Cup style I/C for cheaper. $800 or less range. The vast majority of I/C are 300-600 range. With the more expensive ones jumping to the $800 range.

Once again, what is the relevance of a "simple search"? Put investments where your words are and and this would be relevant. Contact Spearco and offer this community a sub 800 system.

Originally Posted by Bgwillyelise

$1300 is overpriced..

Unless you are simply comparing the price one can buy an IC for the sake of simply buying one... a meaningless excercise.

It's one thing to be inquisitive but this statement is unsubstantiated.

Originally Posted by Bgwillyelise

I/C's are I/C's. Doesnt matter if its a lotus or a honda. And in this case its a toyota not a lotus.

So this is apples to apples.

Thanks for stating the obvious.

I bought an IC for my nissan for 1500, but there were options out there for 1200. And even cheaper CHina/Taiwan made items. So what?

Compare the market demand for a lotus IC versus those for toyota, honda, nissan ... etc. Look at the economies of scale, look at total market size, consider that this is a product made by a man who loves/owns the particular car this product is for, and finally have the patience to wait for supporting data so that the opinions made are well thought out and fair.