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What is being said about DE level 4 is true, but it doesn't mean every single person is running 10/10ths all the time.

I'm level 3 myself. Sometimes I go out there and pass most people. Sometimes I drive 7/10ths; especially in the first couple of sessions for the weekend, especially if it's a track or configuration I haven't run before, especially if I forgot to pee prior to the session, etc. I'm sure during those sessions there are probably some people in Civics that think, "WooooHooooo I smoked that Lotus!" But for the most part, at this moderate experience level, you can tell when the guy in front of you is really pushing it or not.

There is a VERY experienced instructor down here in Texas; he's often asked to talk in front of the level 3 and level 4 classroom sessions. An ex-professional driver I believe. In his GT3RS he appears to pretty much dominate every other person in attendance for the weekend. (Of course I havn't seen turbophill at any of the same events....) Put a lesser driver in that same car and of course it wouldn't be as dominant, but this guy shows what the car is capable of and I always find it impressive.

I've run with a couple 06 Z06 that I can outrun, despite their speed in the straights. Then again I've run with a couple that I cannot keep up with. The car sort of establishes a maximum limit, so to speak, and then it's the driver who determines how closely that ultimate capability is approached.

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