Don,
You're making some bold assumptions and quite frankly you're spreading misinformation and that's the very thing I'm trying to stop. I realize you tune cars in your business and whatnot... but until you've tuned this particular product for our particular car, please just ask questions rather than make bold statements as if they're facts...
Drivability of my car is better than factory in all ways that I can sense, Fact. I believe Randy and Fred and Dave have similar experiences... I'm sure there are others, as not all are on the forums (Which always surprises me. I thought everyone was on here
).... Idles smoother, has more power, throttle response is better, etc... Feel free to swing out here and give'er a go. We can drive heartland while you're out
It's only like 18 hours to get here
Regarding the emissions thing, regardless of flash or standalone they're both bending the law. The car was approved to roll around on the street with the factory tune. Nothing else. To deviate from that whether via standalone or flash, is the same critter unless the particular flash has gone through emission standards. Big deal though, so many people do flashes and piggybacks and standalone and essentially "bolt them on" and go.
I've never seen the pessimism in a car community from posts like the one you just made (I rarely disagree with you, but this time yuo're out in left field) that I have in our community... Yeeesh, spend more time figuring out how to make things work rather than coming up with reasons things won't work and you'll enjoy life much more
Best,
Phil
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Originally Posted by dmh
I'm not on any horse; I'm just having fun killing some time noting how foolish it is to install a standalone ecu on a street car. And to top-it-off with (free) tuning tips as if it was a bolt-on. These are serious products for experienced tuners. Race car...that's a different story -- one where standalones like EFI belong. Oh, and that is the position of EFI and Motec.
The legal penalty for emissions violations is quite steep in states such as NJ. Not only are there formalized inspections there are roving ones as well. The financial penalty the vehicle owner faces can be quite steep and that can apply to the registered shop installer as well. I know of more than a few people in each of those categories who learned their lesson the hard way.
Not only that but you will never approach the level of drivability the factory offers. Do you really think a few tips here and there can equal what the factory engineers can do with the stock (EFI) ecu? Just contact CharlieX..ahh…
But really, who cares about high performance street cars? Seriously, other than trying to appease one’s ego with a false sense of a life style enhancement what are they for? I guess people really do fall for TV commercials! A public road is a far different environment than a race track. And in this country there is no lack of tracks or events, e.g., road racing, auto-crossing, drifting, and drag racing.
Just giving the other side and having fun doing it… |