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Originally Posted by Redback
"Significantly" ?????
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Yes, significantly. Mine consistently pulled 4.6-4.7 second 0-60 times on a vbox right off the showroom floor, and I'd be willing to bet the Evora will be more than slightly off its press numbers. Time will tell in that regard, however, my Cayman made ~285 hp
at the wheels with nothing more than an exhaust on it, as Porsche quite obviously corked the car up to keep it out of 911 territory. The Evora will not do that, by any stretch of the imagination, and it even weighs slightly more.
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Nope. I priced up a Cayman with options the average person might select and those which bring it closer to the spec I'd choose for an Evora.
Natural Leather Interior; Sports Bucket Seats; Sports Steering Wheel; Sports Shifter; 19" Wheels; Climate Control; Bose Stereo & CD Stacker; Bi-Xenon Lights.
$73,420
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I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. The invoice on mine, with 19" sport design wheels, sport chrono, and various other bits came to $65,170. Out the door it was $69,299. The
base price on the S is $60,200. Frankly, throwing ~$13,000 worth of options into the Porsche, including silliness like the $5,000 GT3 seats, and calling it comparable, is rather disingenuous.
The fact of the matter is, a reasonably comparable Cayman S is not going to exceed $65k. Whereas all signs point to the Evora being
at least $75k, and probably closer to 80,
before you add options or even think of driving it off the lot.
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Unless you're also dissatisfied with the performance of your Cayman, - then why? If you choose to go with after-market enhancements, I think $10k would get you a TVS quite comfortably. (The TVS supercharger is already on a production (TRD) 2GR-FE engine here in Oz and components are available as spare parts.)
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I was. Then I spent ~$2,000 on an exhaust and tune, which resulted in ~350hp. And while $10k-odd bucks will certainly have a blower on an Evora, that brings the total north of $85k any way you cut it. The level of performance a ~350 hp Evora would provide is not worth that to me. A 500 hp Evora, yes, but that's not happening without a rather large time and money investment in the car, kissing off the warranty, and so on and so forth.
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A supercharged Evora would be a very quick machine. Wouldn't you need a similar investment in the Cayman to provide the same performance?
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A supercharged Evora would be a reasonably quick machine. It's still going to be no where near my Turbo Elise, or hell, a slightly tuned Esprit for that matter. As I stated earlier, the Cayman cost me about $2k to realize some 350 hp.
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At the end of the day, none of us has driven the Evora and therefore none of us is qualified to pass judgement. No one I know has yet seen the full (US) Evora pricing or the US-specific equipment list either.
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That's true, which is why my previous post is littered with caveats to the tune that I'd be waiting until I drove one before passing any sort of judgement on the car. My ultimate point, again, was not specific to what the Evora may or may not be, short of Lotus' published power and price claims, which in summary for me means not enough go for too much money. My point was that the car is underpowered for the price point, while citing the Cayman S as an example of a car more in line with reality for a bang for the buck standpoint. I could have as easily used a BMW Z4M or Corvette or what have you to further the issue, but most people, and this very thread, have most often compared the Evora to the Cayman, hence my comments.
At the heart of the issue, for me, is that Lotus has once again cranked out an underpowered car, and while I'm sure the aftermarket will "fix" that, and eventually Lotus themselves with an S model or whatever, it is still disheartening that they would produce another car that is sure to get lambasted by its detractors for being slower than x and more expensive than y in considerably less kind methods than I've used. If Lotus saw fit to bring the car in at $65k, or come out of the gate with 320-350hp at its current price point, I wouldn't be complaining, I'd be buying.