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Originally Posted by zr1fan

If you didn't want opinions to the contrary, why'd you make it a poll?

To see the margin of difference? I'm not saying everyone should agree, I'm just thinking most would agree that there aren't any FWD sportscars.

Originally Posted by zr1fan

Apparently reading isn't fundamental for you. Where in my posts do you see me claim FWD is superior or that RWD cars have it wrong?

My point, more or less, is that there is no standard definition of "sports car" and cars have not reached the final evolution point. All cars are a series of compromises, and a product of the technology, engineering, and production ability of the time. There's nothing to say a FWD car couldn't perform given the right technology or engineering. There's nothing fundamental about it.

Wow no need to backpedal now, big guy, your sarcasm and pointed questioning did not go "unheard" by me. C'mon if you pull the forum equivalent of farting in the elevator, at least own up to it! LOL!

Originally Posted by zr1fan

Since you brought up F1 while totally missing the point, I am quite sure that if F1 imposed a requirement that cars be FWD, you'd see some pretty impressively performing FWD cars show up. They are RWD because they are required to be. They have four wheels because they are required to. They have a 2.4L displacement because they are required to. Not because all of these things are unequivocally superior to any other possible way of being.

So you're going to go with a weaksauce argument like "because it's in the rules", I'm going to go with an easier to defend argument called "Physics" as already mentioned in the Slate article I linked earlier Care to offer any odds that even IF in "Bizzaro" world they allowed FWD cars into F1 that any sane, educated, F1 team would campaign such a farce?

Originally Posted by zr1fan

I think I've made my points fairly clearly, and I'm not interested in getting into a pissing match. I'm quite sure you can take all comers as far as that goes. In regards to the Elise/Exige, how old-school can the owners be? The car's only been around a few years. However, I'd certainly be interested in its professional accomplishments, as I find most any car to be interesting.

You seem to forget that the Elise has been around since 1996/97. Ooops, we're dealing with a car that originates across the pond. Please do better research before claiming that Elises/Exiges have "no professional competition pedigree" or whatever nonsense you decided to call it

Originally Posted by zr1fan

As to the jabs, I didn't even think they were thinly veiled. Kudos on putting the pieces together though. I think the Elise and Exige are interesting enough cars. They aren't my cup of tea, but so what? Really the point wasn't to jab the car, but to jab you. You were as rude or ruder to the SRT-4 owner. Why? It's a car made to accelerate fast for low cost, and it does that well. Why should that guy take a bunch of crap from you about it just because it's not your cup of tea? Why would you try to give someone crap about it just because the car doesn't do it for you?

Well detecting sarcasm doesn't seem to be a strong suit for you, but that's just my opinion.

I slammed Neon-boi because he equated this thread as a direct affront on his beloved, hotted-up grocery getter. Perhaps in some ways it is, but I hardly called him out to begin with He mentioned fantastic penis-lengthening claims like his SRT-4 beat out a Viper, I merely retorted with a much more polite version of wh00pd33f*ckingd00

Honestly, I don't have anything against that kid, I don't even know him, but I do think he's spending an aweful lot of time and money on a MacGyver'd econobox. I dare say that after he's done killing his budget by inches (paying bit by bit) that he may well have approached (or likely exceeded) the cost of a foxbody Mustang or F-body, or turbo G-body with modifications that would smoke his Neon in the "all important" 1/4mile ET, and still manage to be RWD

I've seen geniuses spend more on their Cavalier than it would have cost for them to have picked up a bone stock C5 Z06 (at the time). I can't knock them for enjoying (IMO) the automotive equivalent of "watersports", but I can with clear conscience think it's silly just the same.