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Old 03-06-2007, 03:46 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by LBC111
No, that's what YOU said. You're the one suggesting variations in mass production should invalidate personal experience. Besides, why bother taking ANY research, opinion, report, suggestion, claim seriously if you are going to default to the "variations in mass production" argument? (1)

OK, again.. that's NOT what I said. I never said anywhere in this thread that I "liked" my Jeep (for the record, I LOVED it!) This is what I said: "Completely trouble-free for the first 5 years, then after 120,000 miles, replaced front brake pads, water pump, and new belts, with a major tune-up. Continued to run strong and solid 'till the day I sold it (big mistake)." Whew! (2)

Jeeez.. I'm offering my experiences and opinion here. Lighten up! (3)

Wow, you know I got the one? Amazing! (4)



(5) Hmmm... me says somebody here might be SLIGHTLY biased towards CR?? Employee, subcontractor, or just own stock??
Perhaps you majored in Missing the Point.

1. What I said was that one person’s personal experience is of little to no value when talking about mass-produced products.

You gave an all-too-typical ( ) example of an anomaly: a bad model of Lexus. This neither proves nor means a single thing, about Lexus or testing.

Yes, the logical extension of your point would be that any variation negates the survey or report. If you don’t want to “own” that bit of illogic, fine.

2. Again, if you want to quibble over love vs. like, that’s your deal, but your one personal experience, while interesting to you, proves not a thing.

3. I’m a 158 lb Caucasian and light enough. “Your results may vary..” I might like the design of something you don’t, and vice-versa. I have no rancor here, just a desire to promote logic.

4. You had extremely good luck with your Jeep, given the experience of the majority of Jeep owners in CR and other surveys. I’m happy for you there, but it is not germane…or Greer.

5. Neither an employee or otherwise connected to CR.

You besmirched their mag and testing because of your extremely limited experience with a few products. This is tantamount to saying “I know 10,000 of you didn’t like or get good value from this item. But I did.” BFD.

You said you couldn’t trust them and that they were the “worse pick”. That is patently unfair given what they’ve done for consumers, in testing products and promoting pro-consumer legislation and going after manufacturers of bad or unsafe products.

Given the choice of a sampling of one vs. thousands, wouldn’t you take the latter? I would.

If you agree with the last statement, I suggest you buy a subscription.

PS: I don't work for Lexus either.

PPS: (I'll repeat one of my fav car jokes.) Lexus engineers decided on a new test for body integrity. They pulled a car into the shop, rolled up the windows, threw a cat in it and closed the doors. They knew that if, in the morning the cat was dead, they had a tight car.

Chrylser engineers heard about this, so they tried the same thing.

In the morning, the cat was gone.
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