Video of Exige dominating at Sebring track day - LotusTalk

rvflyboy · 06-24-2009, 04:51 AM

This video shows that a good driver in a Lotus can keep up or pass almost any other car--depending on the skill of the driver in the other car. Here a Porsche GT3, several Ferraris, BMW's, and other assorted Porsches are passed at Sebring. If you haven't had your car on the track yet, you need to do so. What a hoot! By the way, I have over 1000 miles at Sebring, so I know my way around, and given this experience, the Exige can toast these other cars. Get out and play!

YouTube - Lotus Outperforming Porsches, Ferraris, and others at Sebring Raceway

dma550 · 06-24-2009, 05:04 AM

Hmm... nice video. That gt3 turned into a little black dot in the horizon on straights though. My thought is that he got some gentlemanly point-by's, not so much that the Lotus outperformed the GT3. Definitely a good driver, but the folks in the big dollar cars were probably just out to have a good time?

fpitas · 06-24-2009, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dma550

Hmm... nice video. That gt3 turned into a little black dot in the horizon on straights though. My thought is that he got some gentlemanly point-by's, not so much that the Lotus outperformed the GT3. Definitely a good driver, but the folks in the big dollar cars were probably just out to have a good time?

That may be it. In any event, no one questions that our cars can get around those others in the corners, it's long straightaways that have been the nemesis. The new supercharger solutions seem to be solving that problem, though.

xtn · 06-24-2009, 06:21 AM

"Various other Porsches" okay. I pass plenty of them.

"GT3" No way. A good driver in a GT3 can easily embarrass any factory Exige.

xtn

Blue Devil · 06-24-2009, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dma550

Hmm... nice video. That gt3 turned into a little black dot in the horizon on straights though. My thought is that he got some gentlemanly point-by's, not so much that the Lotus outperformed the GT3. Definitely a good driver, but the folks in the big dollar cars were probably just out to have a good time?

Cool video, but I agree with everyone else.

ACE51 · 06-24-2009, 07:20 AM

did you miss something at 6:20?

those straights are WIDE, does it get boring at those points?

Zinhead · 06-24-2009, 07:45 AM

The Exige looks to be a Cup car which is not street legal. It should be a good bit faster than most other cars on the track other than a GT3/ACR/C6 Z06.

fuqua914 · 06-24-2009, 08:49 AM

The lap times will tell the whole story, if he is in the 2min 30sec to 36sec range then the passes are believable.

Shawn C · 06-24-2009, 10:37 AM

Having driven both the GT3 and Exige around Sebring extensively, I can tell you the Exige is way more confidence inspiring to drive, I found myself understeering allot in certain sections more in the GT3, My Exige has allot of suspension mods though, . I gotta find out who this guy is because I want to get out there and run with him for fun. He has a great line and runs fast. GT3 ,as much as I love it, is not that much quicker around a track than a supercharged Exige.

Shawn C · 06-24-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ACE51

did you miss something at 6:20?

those straights are WIDE, does it get boring at those points?

No, Because that where you get a nice top speed and get do 3 car wide passing

Did 179Mph on that back straight in a GT3RS

ZJChaser · 06-24-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zinhead

The Exige looks to be a Cup car which is not street legal. It should be a good bit faster than most other cars on the track other than a GT3/ACR/C6 Z06.

naw, not a cup car, the speakers are on the top of the dash(US Spec). Cup cars have the euro dash.

rvflyboy · 06-24-2009, 03:13 PM

The car is a standard S240 with a de-cat pipe and an exhaust. Stock brakes, stock shocks, stock tires. The shocks were set at 7/8 as per the recommendation of several posts on this forum (and the Lotus manual), but I think next time (for my driving style) I will increase this by one front and back.

I have lots of track time at Sebring (and most other US tracks) in formula cars, so I know the racing line and am very familiar with Sebring. Several other posts are correct in their comments about the other cars--some of which may be faster than the Exige if more experienced drivers were in them--but, as can be seen in this video, I only hold back a few times (not a safe passing opportinity). However, the GT3 (which leaves us in the dust on the back stretch but is passed for good in the Esses) is not faster anywhere else on the track than the Lotus, and in many areas the Lotus is faster. The driver was an instructor for the PCA, and is very experienced. We diced several times during the day, each time we win 80% of the track (he wins the back stretch), and we win the lap.

Bottom line... these cars provide a great platform for the beginner "racer" as well as the experinced driver with lots of track time. When you drive these cars as they can be driven, you can kick almost everybody's butt. I treated this car very roughly (this was my first time in the car on the track--just got it 2 months ago), but it never let me down. Very dependable, perfectly predictable in what it is doing, and excellent at giving feedback to the driver.

Shawn C · 06-24-2009, 08:47 PM

Was this a chin event?

smokin orange · 06-24-2009, 09:29 PM

great driving, but please loose the music, it really takes away from the noise we all like to hear...like down shifting and at what points you get on the throttle when exiting turns, etc.
I like to even guess what pipe the cars are running and were the cars being passed on full throttle or not.

sleepe · 06-25-2009, 12:21 AM

most hpde guys can't drive...

Mr. Know · 06-25-2009, 12:58 AM

What's with all the negative comments?

It looked like a great track day, thanks for sharing your video!

Zinhead · 06-25-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rvflyboy

The car is a standard S240 with a de-cat pipe and an exhaust.

I thought it was a cup because the headlights in the first shot in the video look blacked. In any case, very impressive driving.

ZAMMY1 · 06-25-2009, 05:10 AM

great video!
and, yes, drop the music. the engine note is beautiful.
thanks for sharing.
sam

EliseAtLeast · 06-25-2009, 08:02 AM

Nicely done

. No IC heatsoak issue?

glb · 06-25-2009, 09:58 AM

Thanks for posting such a good video.

great driving.

some of those guys looked like they were considering buying property in the area..

06-24-2009, 05:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
dma550 Yahoo! Got my Rotus! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CT, Shoreline area Posts: 1,188	Hmm... nice video. That gt3 turned into a little black dot in the horizon on straights though. My thought is that he got some gentlemanly point-by's, not so much that the Lotus outperformed the GT3. Definitely a good driver, but the folks in the big dollar cars were probably just out to have a good time? __________________ David Avery 05 Lotus Elise ~ Arctic Silver ~ BWR SC ~ Gray RACs ~ Larini SE 08 BMW 135i Stock visit Spyderclub.com

06-24-2009, 06:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,845	"Various other Porsches" okay. I pass plenty of them. "GT3" No way. A good driver in a GT3 can easily embarrass any factory Exige. xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

06-24-2009, 07:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 620	did you miss something at 6:20? those straights are WIDE, does it get boring at those points? __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

06-24-2009, 10:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
Shawn C Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,531	Having driven both the GT3 and Exige around Sebring extensively, I can tell you the Exige is way more confidence inspiring to drive, I found myself understeering allot in certain sections more in the GT3, My Exige has allot of suspension mods though, . I gotta find out who this guy is because I want to get out there and run with him for fun. He has a great line and runs fast. GT3 ,as much as I love it, is not that much quicker around a track than a supercharged Exige. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/jerusdc

06-24-2009, 08:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Shawn C Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,531	Was this a chin event? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/jerusdc

06-24-2009, 07:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Zinhead Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 292	The Exige looks to be a Cup car which is not street legal. It should be a good bit faster than most other cars on the track other than a GT3/ACR/C6 Z06.

06-24-2009, 08:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
fuqua914 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 98	The lap times will tell the whole story, if he is in the 2min 30sec to 36sec range then the passes are believable.

06-24-2009, 03:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
rvflyboy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 11	The car is a standard S240 with a de-cat pipe and an exhaust. Stock brakes, stock shocks, stock tires. The shocks were set at 7/8 as per the recommendation of several posts on this forum (and the Lotus manual), but I think next time (for my driving style) I will increase this by one front and back. I have lots of track time at Sebring (and most other US tracks) in formula cars, so I know the racing line and am very familiar with Sebring. Several other posts are correct in their comments about the other cars--some of which may be faster than the Exige if more experienced drivers were in them--but, as can be seen in this video, I only hold back a few times (not a safe passing opportinity). However, the GT3 (which leaves us in the dust on the back stretch but is passed for good in the Esses) is not faster anywhere else on the track than the Lotus, and in many areas the Lotus is faster. The driver was an instructor for the PCA, and is very experienced. We diced several times during the day, each time we win 80% of the track (he wins the back stretch), and we win the lap. Bottom line... these cars provide a great platform for the beginner "racer" as well as the experinced driver with lots of track time. When you drive these cars as they can be driven, you can kick almost everybody's butt. I treated this car very roughly (this was my first time in the car on the track--just got it 2 months ago), but it never let me down. Very dependable, perfectly predictable in what it is doing, and excellent at giving feedback to the driver.

06-24-2009, 09:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
smokin orange Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 413	great driving, but please loose the music, it really takes away from the noise we all like to hear...like down shifting and at what points you get on the throttle when exiting turns, etc. I like to even guess what pipe the cars are running and were the cars being passed on full throttle or not. __________________ 05 Elise, (sold) 2002 BMW 330ci convertable, M package 1998 Range Rover (stolen) 1972 BMW 2002 supercharged, fuel injected, liquid intercooled, Haltech E6A ECU...and lots of other stuff 1988 BMW 535Is

06-25-2009, 12:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
sleepe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 1,050	most hpde guys can't drive... __________________ Elise'06ST:RAC/r888-Ultradiscs-Larini 8"-Braille-Saikou Michi cans-Nitron sportpro-RTVbrace-widened undertrays-manly's motor inserts-FF engine damper VF2

06-25-2009, 12:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
Mr. Know British by extrapolation Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Marin, California Posts: 3,350 Images: 6	What's with all the negative comments? It looked like a great track day, thanks for sharing your video! __________________ 07 Magnetic Blue Exige S Join the Blue Lotus Team on Facebook.

06-25-2009, 05:10 AM	#18 (permalink)
ZAMMY1 ZAMMY Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: washington, pa, (near PGH.) Posts: 1,557	great video! and, yes, drop the music. the engine note is beautiful. thanks for sharing. sam

06-25-2009, 08:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
EliseAtLeast Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Basking Ridge, NJ Posts: 1,221	Nicely done . No IC heatsoak issue? __________________ '08 Honda S2000 CR (Rio Yellow Pearl) '07 Lotus Exige S (Aspen White) Touring, Traction, Starshield '04 BMW 330 ci (White)

06-25-2009, 09:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
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