06 Elise Choke around 3200+ RPM - LotusTalk

TonyM · 04-22-2009, 04:54 PM

I have a 06 Lotus Elise, recently the car has been choking around 3200-4000 RPM. It only happen when the engine is warm around 187degree+, morning and night are usually okay. Once it start to chock, the RPM needle will drop and it's hard to bring it back up, but once it pass 4000, the car drives okay.

has anyone ever have this type of experience before? Not sure what the problem is. Brought to the Dealer, the tech say it's the electronic throttle body needs to be replace ($2500). I just want to see if anyone else has the similar issue and fixed.

Thank you

intofx · 04-22-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

I have a 06 Lotus Elise, recently the car has been choking around 3200-4000 RPM. It only happen when the engine is warm around 187degree+, morning and night are usually okay. Once it start to chock, the RPM needle will drop and it's hard to bring it back up, but once it pass 4000, the car drives okay.

has anyone ever have this type of experience before? Not sure what the problem is. Brought to the Dealer, the tech say it's the electronic throttle body needs to be replace ($2500). I just want to see if anyone else has the similar issue and fixed.

Thank you

Could also be the AC relay. Do a search. I'm having mine replace tomorrow as mine cuts out at WOT around 7000 rpm.

Demonized · 04-22-2009, 05:43 PM

AC Relay (If AC was on at times of issue).. Change your air-filter, clean your MAF. Make sure throttle body isn't sticking.

Opumayaquem · 04-22-2009, 06:46 PM

Check for recalls. I had my throttle body replaced on my 2006 Elise due to a similar experience. It fixed it right up. Any codes thrown? I would think it would be covered due to the recall. It's bulletin 2006/10 from 4/21/2006.

TonyM · 04-23-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by intofx

Could also be the AC relay. Do a search. I'm having mine replace tomorrow as mine cuts out at WOT around 7000 rpm.

Do I just call in the dealer for a AC relay? seems like many people have this issue.

Thank you

TonyM · 04-23-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonized

AC Relay (If AC was on at times of issue).. Change your air-filter, clean your MAF. Make sure throttle body isn't sticking.

yeah, when I turn on the AC, the problem happen sooner. I clean the air-filter, but how to clean the MAF? and how do I know if the throttle body is sticking?

TonyM · 04-23-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by intofx

Could also be the AC relay. Do a search. I'm having mine replace tomorrow as mine cuts out at WOT around 7000 rpm.

where are you getting yours from? I live in LA, wonder if there are any other dealer around.....

TonyM · 04-23-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Opumayaquem

Check for recalls. I had my throttle body replaced on my 2006 Elise due to a similar experience. It fixed it right up. Any codes thrown? I would think it would be covered due to the recall. It's bulletin 2006/10 from 4/21/2006.

there is a recall? no code, the engine light didn't even show. I hope there is a recall because when I brought to the dealer, they just say it's $2500...

Demonized · 04-23-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

there is a recall? no code, the engine light didn't even show. I hope there is a recall because when I brought to the dealer, they just say it's $2500...

Did you try cleaning your MAF?

TonyM · 04-23-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonized

Did you try cleaning your MAF?

how do I do that? and where is the MAF? thank you so much for any help

milehitom · 04-23-2009, 02:09 PM

Engine stumble WOT

Check post #18 for an explanation of the MAF cleaning procedure.

There's a tsb (technical service bulletin) about the AC relay causing problems in early dbw (drive by wire) cars. I believe a re-flash fixed the problem.

I have an '05, so I have the old-fashioned throttle cable system

Tom

TonyM · 04-24-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

how do I do that? and where is the MAF? thank you so much for any help

Isn't MAF a sensor? how do you clean that? wipe it?

Demonized · 04-24-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

Isn't MAF a sensor? how do you clean that? wipe it?

Disconnect it as mentioned in referring post above, spray it with MAF/Brake cleaner.

jallingt · 04-24-2009, 12:03 PM

I have had some sillyness due to dirty MAF. I clean mine with every oil change (I use MAF cleaner). BTW, you will need a tiny, short phillips screwdriver....... don't drop the screw.
The first time it happened to me the engine would cut out at about 4K rpm. Until I figured out what was happening, it seemed like the car would only act-up during a entire drive cycle. After turning the car off it may or may not do it after the next restart.
Good Luck

TonyM · 04-27-2009, 04:34 PM

let me try to clean it then. hope that's the issue causing the problem. Thank you guys, I'll post reply for the result

JoshS · 04-27-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

I have a 06 Lotus Elise, recently the car has been choking around 3200-4000 RPM. It only happen when the engine is warm around 187degree+, morning and night are usually okay. Once it start to chock, the RPM needle will drop and it's hard to bring it back up, but once it pass 4000, the car drives okay.

has anyone ever have this type of experience before? Not sure what the problem is. Brought to the Dealer, the tech say it's the electronic throttle body needs to be replace ($2500). I just want to see if anyone else has the similar issue and fixed.

Thank you

Yes exact same problem. It was the throttle body. And, it should only cost a few hundred dollars. And, they knew it right away, they said it was happening a lot. Obvious manufacturing defect. Lotus should cover it.

TonyM · 04-28-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshS

Yes exact same problem. It was the throttle body. And, it should only cost a few hundred dollars. And, they knew it right away, they said it was happening a lot. Obvious manufacturing defect. Lotus should cover it.

I won't mind pay a couple of hundred for the problem, but Lotus service center want to charge me $2300 for the fix, I walked away.

Notice one thing recently, the choking issue only happen when the temperature of the car goes up to 190+. Usually happen when I stuck in LA traffic for too long or when the car isn't moving from light to light during hot summer days, or Using AC and the temp goes up faster. Or else the car runs fine. Do you guys think it's the throttle still? because if the temp is low, the throttle react fine. Does that mean sensor or anything else?

TonyM · 04-28-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshS

Yes exact same problem. It was the throttle body. And, it should only cost a few hundred dollars. And, they knew it right away, they said it was happening a lot. Obvious manufacturing defect. Lotus should cover it.

Hi JoshS, where or which service center did you go? I would like to visit there if it's not too far, thank you

TonyM · 04-28-2009, 03:02 PM

also I have a Fujita intake installed for like a good three years now. the choke just happened like three month ago.....

TonyM · 04-30-2009, 12:09 PM

just clean the MAF last night, let's see if the choke still happen.... Also ordering the AC rely just in case

04-22-2009, 04:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
TonyM TonyM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 102	06 Elise Choke around 3200+ RPM I have a 06 Lotus Elise, recently the car has been choking around 3200-4000 RPM. It only happen when the engine is warm around 187degree+, morning and night are usually okay. Once it start to chock, the RPM needle will drop and it's hard to bring it back up, but once it pass 4000, the car drives okay. has anyone ever have this type of experience before? Not sure what the problem is. Brought to the Dealer, the tech say it's the electronic throttle body needs to be replace ($2500). I just want to see if anyone else has the similar issue and fixed. Thank you __________________ 91, 93, 94 Toyota MR2 Turbo 01 Toyota MR-S 04 Scion Xa 06 Lotus Elise

04-22-2009, 05:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
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04-22-2009, 06:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Opumayaquem GA2NYC2VA2NYC2NOVA2PHL Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: PA near Philly Posts: 36	Check for recalls. I had my throttle body replaced on my 2006 Elise due to a similar experience. It fixed it right up. Any codes thrown? I would think it would be covered due to the recall. It's bulletin 2006/10 from 4/21/2006. __________________ 2006 Lotus Elise Sport, Laser Blue (Current) 1997 Acura Type R #85 Stock, Champ. White (Stolen/Stripped) 1984 Honda CRX 1.5 Blue (Sold)

04-24-2009, 12:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
jallingt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 521	I have had some sillyness due to dirty MAF. I clean mine with every oil change (I use MAF cleaner). BTW, you will need a tiny, short phillips screwdriver....... don't drop the screw. The first time it happened to me the engine would cut out at about 4K rpm. Until I figured out what was happening, it seemed like the car would only act-up during a entire drive cycle. After turning the car off it may or may not do it after the next restart. Good Luck __________________ 2005 Bordeaux Met #21 (HT, Touring, Quicksilver ext, TRM F1 wheels, Stan Stud, HID lights, BWR S/C,Filled motor mounts, catch can, no camber shims, Tillett saddles) 2004 Audi S4 Sedan (Tip, GAIC Chip, AWE Cat-back, Team Dyanmics Pro 1.2 wheels, H-sport sway bars) 2002 F-350 (Powerstroke, 4x4, Banks power pack, 6th alternator) Couple nice bicycles, way too many snow skis.

04-27-2009, 04:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
TonyM TonyM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 102	let me try to clean it then. hope that's the issue causing the problem. Thank you guys, I'll post reply for the result __________________ 91, 93, 94 Toyota MR2 Turbo 01 Toyota MR-S 04 Scion Xa 06 Lotus Elise

04-23-2009, 02:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
milehitom Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,145	Engine stumble WOT Check post #18 for an explanation of the MAF cleaning procedure. There's a tsb (technical service bulletin) about the AC relay causing problems in early dbw (drive by wire) cars. I believe a re-flash fixed the problem. I have an '05, so I have the old-fashioned throttle cable system Tom

04-28-2009, 03:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
TonyM TonyM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 102	also I have a Fujita intake installed for like a good three years now. the choke just happened like three month ago..... __________________ 91, 93, 94 Toyota MR2 Turbo 01 Toyota MR-S 04 Scion Xa 06 Lotus Elise

04-30-2009, 12:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
TonyM TonyM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 102	just clean the MAF last night, let's see if the choke still happen.... Also ordering the AC rely just in case __________________ 91, 93, 94 Toyota MR2 Turbo 01 Toyota MR-S 04 Scion Xa 06 Lotus Elise

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