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Weekend Warrior
Join Date: Jun 2003
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How to Detail Your Elise
I suspect this thread will evolve over time, especially once we get the cars, so we can tailor it specifically to the Elise's needs.
What's first? How to wash the car? |
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Ridge Man
Join Date: Dec 2003
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are you familiar with the new 'state of the art' product called 'Crystal Guard'?
the guys on 'my350Z' site swear by it, saying easy application, no swirls, tougher than wax, brighter than a showroom car etc.. Recent article in EVO mentioned how, after 10 months of testing in England, stone chips did damage the nose and lower flanks from normal driving. What's best for protecting these areas? |
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Weekend Warrior
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No wax, sealant, or other product intended for paint protection/beautification is going to protect your paint from stone chips and the like. The best bet for protection is some sort of clearbra like Xpel or Stoneguard. They seem to work pretty well but I have never purchased one myself.
Crystal Guard gave me a free do-it-yourself sample, but I never really prepared the surface on my test vehicle fully, so I didn't get the best results. I ought to try it again before making my final opinion on it. However, I can tell you that they seem to throw around the marketing fluff quite a bit. With any product, they key is surface preparation and not necessarily the product used. New cars don't require that much prep and so they tend to get good results without any real work. |
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Ridge Man
Join Date: Dec 2003
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know this guy with a beautiful 1974 Toyota Corolla (owned it since new) and
he claims to never have washed the car with soap. It still looks pristine. Also, I was told that if you must go to a car wash, then make sure it is 'touchless', not 'brushless' if you want to avoid getting swirls. |
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Wax Pimp
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Denver
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I have never used it, but the product has received negative reviews throughout Autopia.org. It was tested by several professional detailers and the consensus was that it CG boasted far more that delivered.
There are other proven products that offer similar durability at 1/4 the cost. As for appearance, that is subjective. There have been a few people commenting that they love the look. Nothing wrong with that. Others note the lack of depth. |
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El Jefe - Agent 111
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![]() P.S. The Elise will NOT ever see a automatic car wash that touches it.
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Weekend Warrior
Join Date: Jun 2003
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I would like to note that autopia.org is simply a wonderful resource for learning to detail in depth. Once you join, expect to start spending hundreds of dollars!
![]() If you have the time, hand washing is still the way to go IMO. The Elise is such a small car, I can't imagine it taking a long time. I'm old fashioned, and so I still prefer natural sheepskin mitts (2) replaced every year and your favorite car wash solution with the two bucket method. Microfiber waffle weave towels to blot dry, and microfiber cloths for the final quick detail touchup. |
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Elise Fondler
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: N. KY
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Are there any books out that explain some of the things I see posted here such as clay use (whatever that is) and swirl removal, etc., etc. I sure like the idea of getting some step-by-step recommendations on the finish. Maybe general washing, non-concours waxing and surface preparations and advance concours stuff.
I'd especially like to see details on stone chip repairs. I plan on getting a boat load of em, and hate em! I'm all ears and think that this information will be of great use. Thanks all for the great info so far.
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Weekend Warrior
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Arno,
I hope you are right! Cerven, Try this link: http://www.autopia-carcare.com/how-to.html and this one: http://www.autopia-carcare.com/tps-accgtd-cd.html Stonechips take a long time to properly repair. I'll find you a good article, or write my own for you... |
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Wax Pimp
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Denver
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Quote:
When it comes to wax, a lot of it depends on personal preference. Do you want long-term durability? Do you like a lot of shine or deep gloss? Do you mind waxing every six weeks? Do kids put their fingerprints all over your car?... |
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Elise Fondler
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Vantage,
I can't thank you enough. I'm sure our other Forum members feel the same. What a great group of people here.
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El Jefe - Agent 111
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I have used both Griots and Zaino and they both came with instructions on cleaners -> clay bar --> polishing compound ---> Wax.
I really liked the x-pel stuff at the LA Auto Show. The VP of Marketing was talking to Lotus there. http://www.xpel.com P.S. Adding a clear bra will be a dealer installed option that you are supposed to order at the time of your initial order. Because then they will not install the standard clear plastic protection on the rear of the car (directly behind the doors). That is what I was told, but they were working out some details still.
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eliseaholic!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: georgia
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Here's a great article on the 3m product and companies that apply it.
http://www.roadfly.org/magazine/8/pa...on_film.1.html Chris |
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Ridge Man
Join Date: Dec 2003
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saw a wash bucket (on T.V.) that had a built in mesh mid-way down that allowed
the up-top water to remain free of sediment. Then, you could rub your wash mitt on the upper portion, thereby guarantee-ing that you were always applying a clean mitt to the car. The mesh didn't look that 'fine' so I guess everything in the form of a contaminate stayed away from your mitt. |
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FYI, Griots Garage makes their detailing handbook available free of charge in PDF format...click here.
I've used their stuff for years and have been very impressed, especially with their wax.
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