New Gearstick + BLOODY Metallic rattle gone! - Page 2 - LotusTalk

APOGEE · 08-13-2005, 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=pete k]Don, is there a reason you won't share the "fix" with us? Are you sworn to secrecy?

[/Q

There are words and there are actions, if Rob's car stays quiet for 1k miles
I will be more than happy to share my findings. Don.

Shiftlock · 08-14-2005, 03:19 AM

[QUOTE=APOGEE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete k

Don, is there a reason you won't share the "fix" with us? Are you sworn to secrecy?

[/Q

There are words and there are actions, if Rob's car stays quiet for 1k miles
I will be more than happy to share my findings. Don.

Don, you've successfully done this silencing mod on other customer's car's, with successs, haven't you? I believe I communicated with a very happy customer of yours (Ben S.) who said you completely eliminated the harsh neutral-throttle sound. He was very pleased that this "rattle" was gone (although he recently damaged his car). He spoke very highly of you, and if I was anywhere near the west coast, I would be in your shop for sure. I am desparate to get rid of this noise myself. Please think about sharing the fix with us. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the shift gear linkage, is that right? How about a hint at least? Thanks.

Stewart W · 08-14-2005, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by APOGEE

Hi Stewart, L.C.U.S.A. has a very good Field Service Engineer here on
the west coast. Part of my job involves submitting Quality Assurance feedback to L.C.U.A. thru my Rep, on any issue of concern.Please don't mistake me for a '' Lotus cheerleader '' but L.C.U.S.A. has been forthcoming
with timely updates and service revisions, I have seen this first hand. I have
empirical knowledge of how difficult it can be to find and silence rattles and noises on my personal cars. All the best, Don.

As I indicated in my earlier mail..L.C.U.A are trying and have been supportive.However, the source of the problem has not yet been fully remedied and should your mods prove to work long term it could bring this frustrating experience to a close for many other Elise owners.I look forward to your 1000 mile update.Thanks for taking the time to respond.

knucklehead · 08-14-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiftlock

if I was anywhere near the west coast, I would be in your shop for sure.

It would be worth the drive. Don's da man.

Stewart W · 08-14-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by knucklehead

It would be worth the drive. Don's da man.

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It seems he is and I don't disagree,( it would be worth the drive) however I am on the other coast.As much as I would enjoy touring the country in the Elise..just do not have the time. I trust Don will share his findings once the fixes have stood some test of time..hopefully not too long ? There are quite a few owners waiting with baited breath...

Rob Ward · 08-14-2005, 02:08 PM

There are words and there are actions, if Rob's car stays quiet for 1k miles
I will be more than happy to share my findings. Don.[/QUOTE]

Still quiet after 300 miles.

The only problem with the new gearstick is that the reverse gear collar keeps sticking in its up – i.e. reverse - position, which is very easy not to notice. Can be very embarrassing pulling away from a stop light – having shifted back into reverse by mistake.

I guess it’ll loosen up.

Rob Ward · 08-14-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MyElise

Da man,, huh?

Hey Don, like everyone else's suggestions on this board until you share it with others and it is proven to be successful you don't have squat. Please, just keep lurking out there until you have something substantive to add.

It's probably the same silly stick on rubber fix he used before.

A tad harsh I fear.

And, may I rush to Don's defence and say:

Patricko · 08-14-2005, 11:01 PM

I think that these cars may have more than one rattle

and Don's magic fix for one will not fix every rattle.

This may be one reason that he is not sharing this fix...

BTW Don is the man

ChrisB · 08-15-2005, 03:11 PM

Maybe Don and Stan are playing "No, you first!"

aletes · 08-15-2005, 03:39 PM

Sorry I asked Don :-) Would you let us know when a bulletin has been released?

I suspect that Don has to provide this info through official channels as it is part of his job. Also, Don wasn't the one who originally posted about the supposed fix, he was just correcting one of his customer's posts about the new gearshift being the fix.

Stewart W · 08-15-2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisB

Maybe Don and Stan are playing "No, you first!"

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Don did say [earlier in thread] that he would share the mods if it proved to be a real fix...lasting about 1000 miles. My dealer and LC have been working on this for a few months on and off..
I hope Rob Ward is driving night and day...300 miles and all clear as of yesterday....Keep us informed.
Stewart

APOGEE · 08-15-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aletes

Sorry I asked Don :-) Would you let us know when a bulletin has been released?

I suspect that Don has to provide this info through official channels as it is part of his job. Also, Don wasn't the one who originally posted about the supposed fix, he was just correcting one of his customer's posts about the new gearshift being the fix.

Thank you aletes and Stewart W, I see you guy's have a crystal ball.
All the best, Don.

Shiftlock · 08-15-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aletes

I suspect that Don has to provide this info through official channels as it is part of his job.

That's perfectly understandable, but it would have been nice if he just said that in the first place instead of having us all begging for the fix. Why should we need a "crystal ball" to know his true motives? Don is held in very high regard by a lot of Elise owners, and I wish he could be more forthcoming with his knowledge of repair issues, but if if for some reason Lotus doesn't allow him to discuss these things with us until they're confirmed, I guess we'll all just have to wait. Waiting is something that all Elise owners should be used to.

MethodX · 08-15-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MyElise

Da man,, huh?

Don works as a technician for Newport Lotus?
Don has "Don's special fixes" that he uses to fix the unfixable on other's cars.
Don has successfully fixed a "rattle" that bothers some.
Don posts that he knows how to fix it.
Don refuses to tell anyone because it may come back?

Hey Don, like everyone else's suggestions on this board until you share it with others and it is proven to be successful you don't have squat. Please, just keep lurking out there until you have something substantive to add.

It's probably the same silly stick on rubber fix he used before.

Hey, I got an idea. Why don't you post your lively hood, your bread winning asset or a formula you have yet to determine is sound. Wait, that is if you possess any of this. Sound harsh? I tried to equal your tone but feel that I have failed in my attempt. What a negative post you made. Tsk tsk.

It is you sir who doesn't have squat. Don is a gentleman and a provider of unmatched service. I now consider myself fortunate to be in his area. I will never whine about my 20 minute drive to his shop in Newport Beach.

Eric

aletes · 08-15-2005, 08:39 PM

The easiest fix for the rattle is to keep the RPM's above 6200

Stewart W · 08-22-2005, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewart W

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Don did say [earlier in thread] that he would share the mods if it proved to be a real fix...lasting about 1000 miles. My dealer and LC have been working on this for a few months on and off..
I hope Rob Ward is driving night and day...300 miles and all clear as of yesterday....Keep us informed.
Stewart

Rob and Don...
Any update ?
Thanks

Stewart W · 08-22-2005, 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=APOGEE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete k

Don, is there a reason you won't share the "fix" with us? Are you sworn to secrecy?

[/Q

There are words and there are actions, if Rob's car stays quiet for 1k miles
I will be more than happy to share my findings. Don.

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Don...
Any update ? Is Rob's car still quiet?
Thanks

APOGEE · 08-22-2005, 08:18 PM

[QUOTE=Stewart W]

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Originally Posted by APOGEE

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Don...
Any update ? Is Rob's car still quiet?
Thanks

Only Rob would know at this point, but after a lifetime as a race car fabricator,Engine blue printer, Ferrari mechanic, and forensic consultant I
may go out as a rattle master

( just kidding, a do want to help) I'll
check with Rob this week. All the best, Don

aletes · 08-22-2005, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyElise

Know what you get when you fix a rattle on a Lotus?

You get to hear the other rattle.

What rattle?

Shiftlock · 08-22-2005, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyElise

Know what you get when you fix a rattle on a Lotus?

You get to hear the other rattle.

Yeah, but the harsh neutral-throttle rattle is by far the worst, at least on my car. I don't mind rattles, but this noise drives me nuts. I wouldn't even describe it as a rattle, it's more like a cross between a rattle and a raspy buzzing noise. It really catches my attention, and it's even audible at high RPM over the QS exhaust and ITG intake.

08-13-2005, 09:55 PM	#21 (permalink)
APOGEE Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Newport Beach Ca Posts: 858 Images: 1	[QUOTE=pete k]Don, is there a reason you won't share the "fix" with us? Are you sworn to secrecy? [/Q There are words and there are actions, if Rob's car stays quiet for 1k miles I will be more than happy to share my findings. Don. __________________ '' I always tell my students to follow their bliss- where the deep sense of being is from, and where your body and soul want to go''. Joseph Campell Last edited by APOGEE; 08-13-2005 at 10:12 PM.

08-14-2005, 02:08 PM	#26 (permalink)
Rob Ward BritWard Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 70	There are words and there are actions, if Rob's car stays quiet for 1k miles I will be more than happy to share my findings. Don.[/QUOTE] Still quiet after 300 miles. The only problem with the new gearstick is that the reverse gear collar keeps sticking in its up – i.e. reverse - position, which is very easy not to notice. Can be very embarrassing pulling away from a stop light – having shifted back into reverse by mistake. I guess it’ll loosen up. Last edited by Rob Ward; 08-14-2005 at 02:23 PM.

08-14-2005, 11:01 PM	#28 (permalink)
Patricko Elise Royalty Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 6,293	I think that these cars may have more than one rattle and Don's magic fix for one will not fix every rattle. This may be one reason that he is not sharing this fix... BTW Don is the man __________________ Providing an opportunity for others to live vicariously through me since 2004 ®

08-15-2005, 03:39 PM	#30 (permalink)
aletes Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 677	Sorry I asked Don :-) Would you let us know when a bulletin has been released? I suspect that Don has to provide this info through official channels as it is part of his job. Also, Don wasn't the one who originally posted about the supposed fix, he was just correcting one of his customer's posts about the new gearshift being the fix. __________________ “The Edge…there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.”

08-15-2005, 08:39 PM	#35 (permalink)
aletes Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 677	The easiest fix for the rattle is to keep the RPM's above 6200 __________________ “The Edge…there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.”

08-15-2005, 03:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
ChrisB I'm Lovin' It! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 3,970 Images: 1	Maybe Don and Stan are playing "No, you first!"

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