Window Rattle Fixed - Page 2 - LotusTalk

tesprit · 03-13-2009, 02:46 PM

Just remember to adjust the screws only a little at a time until the rattle is gone. Going crazy with the screws can actually cause the window glass to bind in the tracks and get stuck.

mrcarcrazy · 03-13-2009, 06:15 PM

I tried this, and all it managed to do was move my window further away from the car when fully raised.

So I readjusted while window was up and all is well now

TheViper · 04-17-2009, 04:46 AM

I wanted to warn anyone who does this adjustment that it can lead to problems. I recently adjusted the passenger window using the front screw and it fell out into the door cavity. I now had to remove the door panel and use a magnetic pick up to retrieve the screw which was easy. The hard part was getting double ended screw back in location. The screw is located between the access hole and the base of the window frame, this location is almost unaccessible, both physically and visually. I had to remove the inside door lock release which gives a small hole to get your hand through and try to install the screw by feel alone. This was a painful experience because while pushing the window frame, which hurts your fingers, out to give space, your wrist is being cut into by the hole edges. I can't explain how frustrating this was, not really knowing what I was doing, being blind and additionally, anyone with large hands would probably find this procedure impossible. Eventually, I got the screw in a position that may not be perfect but everything works OK.
Michael

elise/europa · 04-17-2009, 11:10 AM

In many cases, the rail's top screw is loose. To reach it, just take a philips screw driver with the window down, and tight the screw. Hard to see that's screw, but you can reach it by the window slot.When

Keeper · 04-18-2009, 07:10 AM

@TheViper - Already posted earlier in the thread but I'll note it in the first post.

@elise/europa - already noted in the first post.

evotell · 06-02-2009, 06:42 PM

Got the door panel off and some of the screws and 10mm bolts where loose. When the window is right to the top it rattles like hell, take it down 1/2 inch and no problem. I don't think this is an adjustment issue.

evotell · 06-02-2009, 07:26 PM

Does anybody have an exploded diagram of the lower adjuster?

BealeAss · 06-02-2009, 07:48 PM

I've got this problem too, I tried the screw adjustment, but to no avail. Time for the next step.

evotell · 06-03-2009, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheViper

I wanted to warn anyone who does this adjustment that it can lead to problems. I recently adjusted the passenger window using the front screw and it fell out into the door cavity. I now had to remove the door panel and use a magnetic pick up to retrieve the screw which was easy. The hard part was getting double ended screw back in location. The screw is located between the access hole and the base of the window frame, this location is almost unaccessible, both physically and visually. I had to remove the inside door lock release which gives a small hole to get your hand through and try to install the screw by feel alone. This was a painful experience because while pushing the window frame, which hurts your fingers, out to give space, your wrist is being cut into by the hole edges. I can't explain how frustrating this was, not really knowing what I was doing, being blind and additionally, anyone with large hands would probably find this procedure impossible. Eventually, I got the screw in a position that may not be perfect but everything works OK.
Michael

Does this adjuster move the window forward & backward or sideways in and out?

TheViper · 06-03-2009, 08:15 AM

The top moves in and out, increasing or decreasing the angle of the window
Cheers,
Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by evotell

Does this adjuster move the window forward & backward or sideways in and out?

evotell · 06-03-2009, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheViper

The top moves in and out, increasing or decreasing the angle of the window
Cheers,
Michael

Thanks. I can see what you mean about that screw being in an impossible place.

Regards

Terry

cornbeef · 06-03-2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elise/europa

In many cases, the rail's top screw is loose. To reach it, just take a philips screw driver with the window down, and tight the screw. Hard to see that's screw, but you can reach it by the window slot.When

I played with the adjusters to no avail. After some rooting around I found the rail screws (somehow I missed this post..) The rail screw at the back of the door was all the way out. I sqeezed the screwdriver through the window slot and tightened it. The rattle's gone

ACE51 · 10-20-2009, 08:44 PM

developed this rattle this weekend, the whole window was tilting back and forth as I put it up / down and would sometimes get stuck. I'll try this, it looks promising.

ACE51 · 10-20-2009, 09:31 PM

OK not thread jacking but just hushing the search police and maybe helping future people looking into this issue

I found these two screws in the bottom of my door and I do not know where they came from, does anyone know where they might go? I can grab the top corner of my window and tilt it back and forth...

^yeah I know nice background right?

buzzy · 10-20-2009, 09:50 PM

The one on the right holds a window rail to the door frame!

ACE51 · 10-20-2009, 09:57 PM

that might have something to do with the whole window tilting then eh? I'll have to feel around better in there. I'm sure its going to be a lot of fun tightening these back down.

surferpkt · 10-21-2009, 02:39 AM

The one on the right holds the front or back guide rail at the top to the door and the other could go a number of places in all the doors hardware.

ACE51 · 10-22-2009, 11:06 AM

Ok like stated, the one on the right was to the front rail at the top (the one notorious from coming loose and preventing your window from going all the way up.)

However I'm still trying to figure out the one on the left. I think it might be #28 by lotusgarage's description:

However I think there is something that needs to be adjusted because I can still grab my window and lift it up and down! Maybe the "adjuster blocks?" (#22)

ACE51 · 11-19-2009, 02:17 PM

so... I put that top screw back in, apparently the hex head screw pictured above goes to the mirror possibly.

Here is what my window is doing even with that top screw in. It makes an annoying rattle at various RPMs too.

anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC5_jwLmBW0

surferpkt · Yesterday, 02:48 AM

Roll your window all the way down and look at the top of the back rail. It is bolted to a bracket that is fixed to the fiberglass door via epoxy. Mine broke free when enough people closed the door too hard. I had to take the top window gasket off in order to get in there and rough up the area, then re-epoxy the bracket to the door. Sounds like that maybe your issue. My window no longer rattles since the fix, though the glass slides forward and back whenever its rolled down, then wont roll up properly when the door is closed. I believe its the three problematic bolts listed in this thread, but I can't seem to tighten them or loosen them for that matter because I believe they are stripped. I'm not the first owner, but I'll get around to fixing that issue as well one of these days. Good luck,

03-13-2009, 06:15 PM	#22 (permalink)
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04-17-2009, 11:10 AM	#24 (permalink)
elise/europa Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: montreal Posts: 348	In many cases, the rail's top screw is loose. To reach it, just take a philips screw driver with the window down, and tight the screw. Hard to see that's screw, but you can reach it by the window slot.When __________________ ____________________________________ Elise 2006, white, Katana Europa 1969, green, H22A, 194 whp, 1550# CONFIGTECH.ca / Solidworks

04-18-2009, 07:10 AM	#25 (permalink)
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06-02-2009, 06:42 PM	#26 (permalink)
evotell PETROL HEAD Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 301	Got the door panel off and some of the screws and 10mm bolts where loose. When the window is right to the top it rattles like hell, take it down 1/2 inch and no problem. I don't think this is an adjustment issue. __________________ 2009 EVO X MR 2007 CRG 125 Kart 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel

06-02-2009, 07:26 PM	#27 (permalink)
evotell PETROL HEAD Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 301	Does anybody have an exploded diagram of the lower adjuster? __________________ 2009 EVO X MR 2007 CRG 125 Kart 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee Diesel

03-13-2009, 02:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
tesprit Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 1,925	Just remember to adjust the screws only a little at a time until the rattle is gone. Going crazy with the screws can actually cause the window glass to bind in the tracks and get stuck.

04-17-2009, 04:46 AM	#23 (permalink)
TheViper Alarmed & Dangerous Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boca Raton FL Posts: 3,205	I wanted to warn anyone who does this adjustment that it can lead to problems. I recently adjusted the passenger window using the front screw and it fell out into the door cavity. I now had to remove the door panel and use a magnetic pick up to retrieve the screw which was easy. The hard part was getting double ended screw back in location. The screw is located between the access hole and the base of the window frame, this location is almost unaccessible, both physically and visually. I had to remove the inside door lock release which gives a small hole to get your hand through and try to install the screw by feel alone. This was a painful experience because while pushing the window frame, which hurts your fingers, out to give space, your wrist is being cut into by the hole edges. I can't explain how frustrating this was, not really knowing what I was doing, being blind and additionally, anyone with large hands would probably find this procedure impossible. Eventually, I got the screw in a position that may not be perfect but everything works OK. Michael

06-02-2009, 07:48 PM	#28 (permalink)
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10-20-2009, 08:44 PM	#33 (permalink)
ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 614	developed this rattle this weekend, the whole window was tilting back and forth as I put it up / down and would sometimes get stuck. I'll try this, it looks promising. __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

10-20-2009, 09:31 PM	#34 (permalink)
ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 614	OK not thread jacking but just hushing the search police and maybe helping future people looking into this issue I found these two screws in the bottom of my door and I do not know where they came from, does anyone know where they might go? I can grab the top corner of my window and tilt it back and forth... ^yeah I know nice background right? __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

10-20-2009, 09:50 PM	#35 (permalink)
buzzy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Moon Posts: 879 Images: 10	The one on the right holds a window rail to the door frame!

10-20-2009, 09:57 PM	#36 (permalink)
ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 614	that might have something to do with the whole window tilting then eh? I'll have to feel around better in there. I'm sure its going to be a lot of fun tightening these back down. __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

10-21-2009, 02:39 AM	#37 (permalink)
surferpkt Daily Driver Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sarasota, FL. Posts: 124	The one on the right holds the front or back guide rail at the top to the door and the other could go a number of places in all the doors hardware. __________________ 2005 BORDEAUX RED PEARL ELISE: Sport Pack, Hard Top, Star Shield, Black Mesh Grill, De-snorkled, K&N Filter, CF Side Scoops & CF Splitter. 2005 TORNADO RED TRIUMPH DAYTONA 650 - SOLD 2004 SUPERCHARED TOYOTA TACOMA 4WD - SOLD

10-22-2009, 11:06 AM	#38 (permalink)
ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 614	Ok like stated, the one on the right was to the front rail at the top (the one notorious from coming loose and preventing your window from going all the way up.) However I'm still trying to figure out the one on the left. I think it might be #28 by lotusgarage's description: However I think there is something that needs to be adjusted because I can still grab my window and lift it up and down! Maybe the "adjuster blocks?" (#22) __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

Yesterday, 02:48 AM	#40 (permalink)
surferpkt Daily Driver Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sarasota, FL. Posts: 124	Roll your window all the way down and look at the top of the back rail. It is bolted to a bracket that is fixed to the fiberglass door via epoxy. Mine broke free when enough people closed the door too hard. I had to take the top window gasket off in order to get in there and rough up the area, then re-epoxy the bracket to the door. Sounds like that maybe your issue. My window no longer rattles since the fix, though the glass slides forward and back whenever its rolled down, then wont roll up properly when the door is closed. I believe its the three problematic bolts listed in this thread, but I can't seem to tighten them or loosen them for that matter because I believe they are stripped. I'm not the first owner, but I'll get around to fixing that issue as well one of these days. Good luck, __________________ 2005 BORDEAUX RED PEARL ELISE: Sport Pack, Hard Top, Star Shield, Black Mesh Grill, De-snorkled, K&N Filter, CF Side Scoops & CF Splitter. 2005 TORNADO RED TRIUMPH DAYTONA 650 - SOLD 2004 SUPERCHARED TOYOTA TACOMA 4WD - SOLD

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