Car & Driver article on Lotus @ L.A. Auto Show - LotusTalk

Cali · 11-17-2007, 12:47 PM

I didn't see that this was posted elsewhere, so here goes...

http://www.caranddriver.com/autoshow...alifornia.html

andrewgotanelise · 11-17-2007, 01:02 PM

"Lotus claims that the 2050-pound roadster can hit 60 miles per hour in 4.6 seconds "

So... a supercharger takes away .1 second off of 60 comapred to a LSS elise? I didnt think that the torque difference would make a half second difference in acceleration.

apexdc · 11-17-2007, 01:10 PM

What are they thinking with those pimped interiors??????? Almost as bad as the Type 72 or whatever that 80's throwback was called.

wallabyguy · 11-17-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by apexdc

What are they thinking with those pimped interiors??????? Almost as bad as the Type 72 or whatever that 80's throwback was called.

That was a 70's throw back thank you very much

Randy Chase · 11-17-2007, 01:32 PM

Interesting how the finish changes on the California grill work.

Look at the C&D gallery. Passenger side rear grill is red. Driver side is silver. At the LA AutoShow, the grills were red, as were the fins on the tail (silver in the gallery). Looks like someone overruled the silver grills?

LARRY · 11-17-2007, 01:34 PM

The California works well, nice dash and interior treatment a little like the Europa!

How some in another color besides red?

Maybe California red, yellow or silver?

Randy Chase · 11-17-2007, 01:54 PM

It will come in Yellow and Red.

jallingt · 11-17-2007, 01:56 PM

I like some of the "California" styling. The silver grills looks good with the red. I did notice one of the photos of the pass side of the car had the rear duct grill painted body color. Interior was not my taste, too may colors inside.
How is the Eaton SC different from the Roots, to produce more torque?

t65tampa · 11-17-2007, 01:58 PM

I like the openings in the seats to allow proper fitment of harness belts without having to cut openings. The painted grills look kind of tacky.

darkSol · 11-17-2007, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewgotanelise

"Lotus claims that the 2050-pound roadster can hit 60 miles per hour in 4.6 seconds "

So... a supercharger takes away .1 second off of 60 compared to a LSS elise? I didnt think that the torque difference would make a half second difference in acceleration.

Not if they added 66 lbs... (2050 - 1984)

Bavarian Motorist · 11-17-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by darkSol

Not if they added 66 lbs... (2050 - 1984)

What the hell? 2050 lb roadster?

Did they fill vacancies in the clams with lead bricks???

Thanking the Lord I own a pre-pigged Elise...unless car and driver's information is inaccurate, which I am hoping to be the case.

Jack · 11-17-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

.....unless car and driver's information is inaccurate, which I am hoping to be the case.

It won't be the first, or last, time that C&D's info is inaccurate....

According to Lotus, preliminary numbers for the 2008 Elise SC are:
0-60 in 4.4 seconds; 0-100 in 10.7 seconds; and unladen vehicle mass of 2000 lbs.

Lotus specs for the 2008 Elise are:
0-60 in 4.9 seconds; 0-100 in 12.9 seconds; and unladen vehicle mass of 1984 lbs

LARRY · 11-17-2007, 09:48 PM

Great booth this year! They are right about that!

Damn, we own handsome cars....

jasond · 11-17-2007, 10:34 PM

+1 on the painted grills looking terrible... if they were real metal grills with a silver finish, it might work ok (altho would probably still look better painted black), but just painting the plastic pieces silver looks really cheap. Add to the fact that some grills are then painted red, and the whole car looks a bit like a frankenstein...

Interior could've maybe worked, but I think red/white is a pretty bad interior color combination....

JMA · 11-18-2007, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LARRY

Great booth this year! They are right about that!

Damn, we own handsome cars....

+1

Nag · 11-18-2007, 10:44 AM

LOTUS ELISE

Select a 2008 LOTUS ELISE style
Lotus Elise
Base price: $46,270
Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster

Select a 2007 LOTUS ELISE style
Lotus Elise
Base price: $47,195
Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster

Select a 2006 LOTUS ELISE style
Lotus Elise
Base price: $43,860
Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster

Select a 2005 LOTUS ELISE style
Lotus Elise
Base price: $40,780
Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster

on the site it says that the 08 cost less than the 07 ??
with the week US dollar how is this??

wallabyguy · 11-18-2007, 11:16 AM

The base Elise has the SAME base price in 2008 that it did in 2007, $46,270 plus destination of $925.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nag

LOTUS ELISE

Select a 2008 LOTUS ELISE style
Lotus Elise
Base price: $46,270
Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster

Select a 2007 LOTUS ELISE style
Lotus Elise
Base price: $47,195
Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster

Select a 2006 LOTUS ELISE style
Lotus Elise
Base price: $43,860
Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster

Select a 2005 LOTUS ELISE style
Lotus Elise
Base price: $40,780
Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster

on the site it says that the 08 cost less than the 07 ??
with the week US dollar how is this??

Bavarian Motorist · 11-18-2007, 11:22 AM

Another C&D error...

So Lotus lists an '08 SC at 2000 lbs? That's reasonable.

Shorty111R · 11-18-2007, 12:13 PM

There's not a *puke* smiley!!!!

Jack · 11-18-2007, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Another C&D error...

So Lotus lists an '08 SC at 2000 lbs? That's reasonable.

All figures for the Elise SC are estimates ...official numbers "will be confirmed once the car undergoes witnessed performance and emissions certification."

11-17-2007, 12:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
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11-17-2007, 01:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
apexdc From close to Roswell.... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 427	What are they thinking with those pimped interiors??????? Almost as bad as the Type 72 or whatever that 80's throwback was called. __________________ 2006 Elise, Graphite Grey/Red leather, Sport Elise Suspension, Hardtop 1992 900SS Ducati Race Spec Built by Ferracci 2006 KTM 950 SuperMoto, a work in progress Wife drives a 2007 Cooper S, our BIG car! Old stuff gone: Ferrari 275GTB/4, '69 1275 Cooper S. '72 500 Fiat, old Jags, etc. Never bought a boring car.

11-17-2007, 01:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	Interesting how the finish changes on the California grill work. Look at the C&D gallery. Passenger side rear grill is red. Driver side is silver. At the LA AutoShow, the grills were red, as were the fins on the tail (silver in the gallery). Looks like someone overruled the silver grills? __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-17-2007, 01:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 17,150	The California works well, nice dash and interior treatment a little like the Europa! How some in another color besides red? Maybe California red, yellow or silver? __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise. Stage II Exhaust. 2007 ProBax seats. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)

11-17-2007, 01:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	It will come in Yellow and Red. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-17-2007, 01:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
andrewgotanelise MMA Fighter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Where the drugs are cheap and the girls are easy Posts: 1,208	"Lotus claims that the 2050-pound roadster can hit 60 miles per hour in 4.6 seconds " So... a supercharger takes away .1 second off of 60 comapred to a LSS elise? I didnt think that the torque difference would make a half second difference in acceleration.

11-17-2007, 01:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
jallingt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 521	I like some of the "California" styling. The silver grills looks good with the red. I did notice one of the photos of the pass side of the car had the rear duct grill painted body color. Interior was not my taste, too may colors inside. How is the Eaton SC different from the Roots, to produce more torque? __________________ 2005 Bordeaux Met #21 (HT, Touring, Quicksilver ext, TRM F1 wheels, Stan Stud, HID lights, BWR S/C,Filled motor mounts, catch can, no camber shims, Tillett saddles) 2004 Audi S4 Sedan (Tip, GAIC Chip, AWE Cat-back, Team Dyanmics Pro 1.2 wheels, H-sport sway bars) 2002 F-350 (Powerstroke, 4x4, Banks power pack, 6th alternator) Couple nice bicycles, way too many snow skis.

11-17-2007, 01:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
t65tampa 1/3 Rotweiler, He Crazy Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 654	I like the openings in the seats to allow proper fitment of harness belts without having to cut openings. The painted grills look kind of tacky. __________________ Dean 2006 Pontiac GTO 2006 Infiniti G35 2008 M-B C63 AMG 2002 Honda S2000 1997 BMW 318 iC

11-17-2007, 09:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 17,150	Great booth this year! They are right about that! Damn, we own handsome cars.... __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise. Stage II Exhaust. 2007 ProBax seats. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)

11-17-2007, 10:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
jasond Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 488	+1 on the painted grills looking terrible... if they were real metal grills with a silver finish, it might work ok (altho would probably still look better painted black), but just painting the plastic pieces silver looks really cheap. Add to the fact that some grills are then painted red, and the whole car looks a bit like a frankenstein... Interior could've maybe worked, but I think red/white is a pretty bad interior color combination....

11-18-2007, 10:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
Nag Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 179	LOTUS ELISE Select a 2008 LOTUS ELISE style Lotus Elise Base price: $46,270 Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster Select a 2007 LOTUS ELISE style Lotus Elise Base price: $47,195 Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster Select a 2006 LOTUS ELISE style Lotus Elise Base price: $43,860 Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster Select a 2005 LOTUS ELISE style Lotus Elise Base price: $40,780 Vehicle type: mid-engine roadster on the site it says that the 08 cost less than the 07 ?? with the week US dollar how is this??

11-18-2007, 11:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,852	Another C&D error... So Lotus lists an '08 SC at 2000 lbs? That's reasonable. __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

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