Consumer Reports HATES Elise!!! - Page 7 - LotusTalk

mr.woolery · 03-07-2007, 07:28 AM

I wouldn't complain about CR's Elise review...just look at their dreadful review of the Atom.

texige · 03-07-2007, 07:40 AM

I am surprised CR was as complementary as they were. Can you imagine what their review would be on a high end tube amplifier, Ducati, Patek or Enzo?

Buz · 03-07-2007, 07:58 AM

I hate Consumer Reports except when I need to buy a new household appliance.

LARRY · 03-07-2007, 08:17 AM

I can just see the 300 lb. Consumer Reports guy getting stuck trying to get IN a Lotus.

Then rolling out of the car, going to his computer and writing the meanest review he could think of.

Read CAR MAGAZINES. Much better idea.

texige · 03-07-2007, 08:22 AM

It's too bad CR didn't receive a car with Stage 2 exhaust and AC delete. They would have loved it!

Stephen · 03-07-2007, 11:31 AM

Who cares.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYVUE

I was in the drug store today, picked up the Car & Driver (Exige S is on the cover) and I glanced through Consumer Reports 2007 Cars and I read the evaluation about 2007 Elise. The said (basically) the Elise handles (agility) no better than a Miata, and the Elise wildly goes out of control if the limits are exceeded. Also, CR said many bad, bad things about our Elises!

I'm thinking of writing a letter to the editor, but I think it won't do anything, anyway.

I drive an '05 Elise and 06 Miata (MX-5) and the handling characteristics are obviously NOT the same. Why did they attack the Elise?

--SKYVUE/STARVUE

SKYVUE · 03-07-2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen

Who cares.

Who cares? WHO CARES??!!!

We've got SEVEN pages of comments here!
So what does THAT mean?

It's time to move on to love rejection letters, terrorism strikes, asteroid strikes or hemmhoriod strikes....

--SKYVUE

Stephen · 03-08-2007, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYVUE

Who cares? WHO CARES??!!!

We've got SEVEN pages of comments here!
So what does THAT mean?

It's time to move on to love rejection letters, terrorism strikes, asteroid strikes or hemmhoriod strikes....

--SKYVUE

OK, I don't care what CR thinks; they are clowns. You may as well get a road test from your local Betty Crocker cooking class.

LARRY · 03-08-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYVUE

Who cares? WHO CARES??!!!

We've got SEVEN pages of comments here!
So what does THAT mean?

It's time to move on to love rejection letters, terrorism strikes, asteroid strikes or hemmhoriod strikes....

--SKYVUE

It means we are bored with a capital B.

thecollection · 03-08-2007, 03:39 PM

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ZAMMY1 · 03-08-2007, 03:50 PM

yeah! those huyndais (sp?) aren't very safe...why, the girl next door bought one brand spankin new!
first it backed into a pole. then later it ran a red light and got hit broadside...like i say, they ain't safe.

LARRY · 03-08-2007, 04:16 PM

But they love the VW bug!

skalter · 03-10-2007, 03:19 PM

My interest in the Elise was peaked when I read a "bad" review of it about a year ago. I don't remember the magazine. However, every time they pointed out something they didn't like, my response was "that seems like a car I would enjoy". The people who will appreciate an Elise will find it -- especially as it gets so much press. It is relatively true that there is no such thing as bad publicity.

Serebo1 · 03-11-2007, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LARRY

But they love the VW bug!

One of my first cars. '79 superbeetle convertible. I loved it too.

JoshS · 03-16-2007, 05:15 PM

I'm reposting Devious post, the thread got long enough most of us probably didn't see it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devious

I am a regular CR subscriber. The following is from the latest issue, and nothing I wouldn't expect:

Consumer Reports, April 2007 issue, page 64:

"Lotus Elise
The Elise is a quick, lightweight, mid-engined roadster. Its 4.6-second 0-60 mph time is very quick, yet the car gets 29 mpg overall. Power comes from a 190-hp, 1.8-liter four-cylinder supplied by Toyota. The engine needs to be revved to deliver real punch. The Elise is agile but no more so than the Mazda Miata or Porsche Boxster. Cornering limits are very high, but the car is hard to control once past them. You might also have to put up with a harsh, noisy ride; a tight austere interior; a clunky shifter; and difficult cabin access. The canvas top is a nuisance to fold. The Exige is a more powerful coupe version of the Elise."

Also in the same issue:
Page 12 "Best & Worst"

Quickest Vehicles
Model...............................seconds to 60 mph
1 Dodge Viper SRT10........... 4.2
2 Chevrolet Corvette Z06..... 4.3
3 Porsche 911 Carrera S...... 4.4
4 Lotus Elise ..................... 4.6
5 Chevrolet Corvette........... 5.0
6 Subaru Impreza WRX STI... 5.2

Dry Breaking
Model............................... ft
1 Porsche Boxster 2.7......... 112
2 Dodge Viper SRT10.......... 113
Porsche 911 Carrera S........ 113
3 Mazda RX-8................... 117
BMW Z4 3.0i..................... 117
Lotus Elise....................... 117

Least Comfortable
Didge Viper SRT10
Jeep Wrangler
Lotus Elise
Smart ForTwo

Avoidance Maneuver
Model.............................. mph
1 Porsche 911 Carrera S..... 59.5
2 Mini Cooper Conv. S........ 57.5
Mazda MX-5 Miata............. 57.5
Porsche Boxster 2.7........... 57.5
3 Dodge Viper SRT10.......... 57.0
Honda S2000.................... 57.0
Lotus Elise........................ 57.0
Nissan 350Z (convertable)... 57.5
Volkswagon GTI................. 57.0

After looking at the articles in context, I think they hit the nail just off the head but pretty damn close. (i.e. Viper as nimble as Lotus. But, then again our cars take a bit of getting used to handling in the turns. Even CR's professional drivers probably have less time in our type of cars then the others.) What's really surprising none of the above really smoke the elise 0-60, of course above that is a different story.

But, here's where I had a problem CR is Smaller then Time and a bit more hard to handle. I'd rate reliability of delivery third, behind Popular Mechanics, and Mo' Big Busty Women. The Text under the cars is hard to read as compared with Car and Driver, and the Recycler. Though, I rate it's four color graphics, ink tones, and clarity number one, followed second by Hustler and that perenial favorite Cars Gone Wild.

Lancia · 03-16-2007, 05:21 PM

CR is unsatisfactory in all respects compared to cottonelle.

Phantom · 03-28-2007, 03:13 PM

This thread is a waste of time! The Elise (or Exige) will run circles around the Miata on a track- It's not built for comfort, It doesn't have a great stereo, great A/C, etc.; it's built to stick to a track like it's on rails- It's a race car people!!

LARRY · 03-28-2007, 03:19 PM

Fu*kin' A, Bubba. Right on.

Phantom · 03-28-2007, 03:20 PM

...and furthermore, if Lotus was trying to appeal to CR, the Elise would weigh as much as the Miata-

Okay, I feel better-

fpitas · 03-28-2007, 03:26 PM

"Dry Breaking" (sic)? Don't these magazines have an editor?

I keep mine wet, it hasn't broken so far.

03-07-2007, 08:17 AM	#124 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 17,158	I can just see the 300 lb. Consumer Reports guy getting stuck trying to get IN a Lotus. Then rolling out of the car, going to his computer and writing the meanest review he could think of. Read CAR MAGAZINES. Much better idea. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise. Stage II Exhaust. 2007 ProBax seats. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)

03-08-2007, 03:39 PM	#130 (permalink)
thecollection Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 208	this " Last edited by thecollection : 01-12-2008 at 01:08 PM.

03-08-2007, 04:16 PM	#132 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 17,158	But they love the VW bug! Attached Images __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise. Stage II Exhaust. 2007 ProBax seats. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)

03-28-2007, 03:13 PM	#137 (permalink)
Phantom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 860 Images: 1	This thread is a waste of time! The Elise (or Exige) will run circles around the Miata on a track- It's not built for comfort, It doesn't have a great stereo, great A/C, etc.; it's built to stick to a track like it's on rails- It's a race car people!! __________________ Grab Life by the Wheel

03-28-2007, 03:19 PM	#138 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 17,158	Fukin' A, Bubba. Right on. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise. Stage II Exhaust. 2007 ProBax seats. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)*

03-07-2007, 07:28 AM	#121 (permalink)
mr.woolery Wierdo Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 388 Images: 3	I wouldn't complain about CR's Elise review...just look at their dreadful review of the Atom.

03-07-2007, 07:40 AM	#122 (permalink)
texige Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: austin texas Posts: 839	I am surprised CR was as complementary as they were. Can you imagine what their review would be on a high end tube amplifier, Ducati, Patek or Enzo?

03-07-2007, 07:58 AM	#123 (permalink)
Buz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,920	I hate Consumer Reports except when I need to buy a new household appliance.

03-07-2007, 08:22 AM	#125 (permalink)
texige Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: austin texas Posts: 839	It's too bad CR didn't receive a car with Stage 2 exhaust and AC delete. They would have loved it!

03-08-2007, 03:50 PM	#131 (permalink)
ZAMMY1 ZAMMY Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: washington, pa, (near PGH.) Posts: 1,557	yeah! those huyndais (sp?) aren't very safe...why, the girl next door bought one brand spankin new! first it backed into a pole. then later it ran a red light and got hit broadside...like i say, they ain't safe.

03-10-2007, 03:19 PM	#133 (permalink)
skalter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4	My interest in the Elise was peaked when I read a "bad" review of it about a year ago. I don't remember the magazine. However, every time they pointed out something they didn't like, my response was "that seems like a car I would enjoy". The people who will appreciate an Elise will find it -- especially as it gets so much press. It is relatively true that there is no such thing as bad publicity.

03-16-2007, 05:21 PM	#136 (permalink)
Lancia Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,543	CR is unsatisfactory in all respects compared to cottonelle.

03-28-2007, 03:20 PM	#139 (permalink)
Phantom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 860 Images: 1	...and furthermore, if Lotus was trying to appeal to CR, the Elise would weigh as much as the Miata- Okay, I feel better- __________________ Grab Life by the Wheel

03-28-2007, 03:26 PM	#140 (permalink)
fpitas User, Registered Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 1,827	"Dry Breaking" (sic)? Don't these magazines have an editor? I keep mine wet, it hasn't broken so far. __________________ Francis 2006 Chrome Orange Elise: LSD/TC, Nitron SAs with 425/650 springs, BWR 7/8" Front Bar, Eliseparts bumpsteer kit, VF Stage 2, 2bular Header + Sport Cat + 8x24 GT3 Muffler, ECU Tune by Jermaine, Smaay's fuel rail, ACT XT clutch, Saikou Michi dual catch can, Moroso pan, Manly's mount inserts & FF Engine Damper 2000 Black Integra Type R: - 213,000 miles...running again!

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