Spied: Lotus Exige Caught Testing Out Evora V6 - LotusTalk

Administrator · 09-21-2009, 10:44 AM

According to a report by LeftLaneNews, Lotus has been spied testing a version of its Exige, powered by the same V6 engine that can be found in the new Evora.

While some Exige models make as much as 260hp using a supercharged four-cylinder, the Evora's V6 (sourced from the Toyota Camry) makes 276 ponies without the need for forced induction.

There is the possibility that under the familiar bodywork this is actually the next-generation Exige. There is also a strong possibility that this could be some limited edition model.

Regardless, as the report gives no real photographic evidence to support the V6 claim, and a V6-powered Exige seems to fly in the face of the light-weight Lotus philosophy, we'll wear our skeptical hat for now.

More: Spied: Lotus Exige Caught Testing Out Evora V6 on AutoGuide.com

MNlotus · 09-21-2009, 11:52 AM

i dont see the point of a v6. a supercharged or turbo 4 cylinder can make alot more power then 276 and would be lighter too

charliex · 09-21-2009, 11:55 AM

availability / reliability / emissions / cost etc

TiGumz · 09-21-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by charliex

availability / reliability / emissions / cost etc

As reasons favoring the FI four or the six cylinder?

RichS · 09-21-2009, 12:09 PM

6

What is the actual weight difference between the two engines?

Given the choice between a highly strung FI 4 pushed towards the very ragged edge or a less tightly wound 6 that delivered a better torque curve, I'd probably go with the 6.

jlj3394 · 09-21-2009, 12:32 PM

This is the same engine as our ES300, but with more power.

This is an excellent engine. I bought from a private part for a song and immediately changed the oil, sending the drained oil to a lab for analysis (Blackstone).

Their reply was "no one would rip off an attorney, would they?" They estimated the oil at 20,000 old. Ouch.

We've driven it for 35,000 miles since then and it runs like a champ - 30 MPG mixed, no repairs to date (knock on wood). Smooth power delivery on a rather heavy sedan with a slushbox. Lab analysis now predicts it will go past 250k.

I would think that this engine would offer better reliability and power delivery versus the supercharged 4 bangers. It will also offer a sick amount of power with forced induction, providing you can find a place to fit it (unless Phil comes up with a TVS solution for this as well).

Uncle Sam · 09-21-2009, 12:44 PM

Wouldn't a V6 take some valuable trunk space from the Exige?

Demonized · 09-21-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jlj3394

This is the same engine as our ES300, but with more power.

This is an excellent engine. I bought from a private part for a song and immediately changed the oil, sending the drained oil to a lab for analysis (Blackstone).

Their reply was "no one would rip off an attorney, would they?" They estimated the oil at 20,000 old. Ouch.

We've driven it for 35,000 miles since then and it runs like a champ - 30 MPG mixed, no repairs to date (knock on wood). Smooth power delivery on a rather heavy sedan with a slushbox. Lab analysis now predicts it will go past 250k.

I would think that this engine would offer better reliability and power delivery versus the supercharged 4 bangers. It will also offer a sick amount of power with forced induction, providing you can find a place to fit it (unless Phil comes up with a TVS solution for this as well).

Oh wow, I didn't even think of that... My brother has an ES300 that FOR A FACT went 70,000 miles without an oil change(I almost beat him up for that)... it's now at 300,000 miles... had a leaking headgasket, and the brakes act funny... but it runs, and pretty well.

Demonized · 09-21-2009, 12:51 PM

Also, With a V6 configuration, you might be able to slap the supercharger ontop of the engine.

ItsThaMonsta · 09-21-2009, 12:58 PM

TORQUE!!!!!

charliex · 09-21-2009, 01:05 PM

There is already has a TVS SC for this engine and setup and its the right sized TVS.

//As reasons favoring the FI four or the six cylinder?

6 probably, since they're already using the engine, longevity, it meets emissions etc.
The story goes that after the engine was tested for a long time, it actually showed a gain in HP

MNlotus · 09-21-2009, 02:57 PM

i think its time for some one to put a rotary motor in a lotus

texige · 09-21-2009, 03:09 PM

Combine a 350+ hp FI V6 with the Malaysian GT3 body, sell it for under $100,000 and Wow!

Malaysian GT3 at Penang Autshow

Simba · 09-21-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MNlotus

i think its time for some one to put a rotary motor in a lotus

A match would be a simpler way of burning one to the ground. I doubt the clam would appreciate the amount of heat those things make.

Personally, I'd like to see a bigger four, on the order of 2.2-2.5L. Fixes the torque problem with very little increase in mass.

kestrel74 · 09-21-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MNlotus

i think its time for some one to put a rotary motor in a lotus

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

dickedup · 09-21-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simba

Personally, I'd like to see a bigger four, on the order of 2.2-2.5L. Fixes the torque problem with very little increase in mass.

Dear Lord... why couldn't Lotus have bent over a tad more for the Honda line of lumps?

The original idea is to keep the Buzzbomb light and zippy. The Honda VTEC motor would rock her into a rocket.

Code name: BuxxBomb?

DeanG · 09-21-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MNlotus

i think its time for some one to put a rotary motor in a lotus

I've seen a wankle engine in a Europa and a Seven clone. Does that count?

RoadDad · 09-21-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanG

I've seen a wankle engine in a Europa and a Seven clone. Does that count?

I've seen a wanker in a Seven clone.

woetra · 09-21-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlj3394

I would think that this engine would offer better reliability and power delivery versus the supercharged 4 bangers. It will also offer a sick amount of power with forced induction, providing you can find a place to fit it (unless Phil comes up with a TVS solution for this as well).

My thoughts exactly, although without the benefit of an ES300 to back me up.

I think I've found my next car.

OTOmatic · 09-21-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simba

A match would be a simpler way of burning one to the ground. I doubt the clam would appreciate the amount of heat those things make.

Personally, I'd like to see a bigger four, on the order of 2.2-2.5L. Fixes the torque problem with very little increase in mass.

I agree 100% with you. I bought the Lotus because it was an exotic with intent of keeping it light and with a 4 banger. Goin to a V6 steers away from that philosophy.

09-21-2009, 10:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Administrator Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 188	Spied: Lotus Exige Caught Testing Out Evora V6 According to a report by LeftLaneNews, Lotus has been spied testing a version of its Exige, powered by the same V6 engine that can be found in the new Evora. While some Exige models make as much as 260hp using a supercharged four-cylinder, the Evora's V6 (sourced from the Toyota Camry) makes 276 ponies without the need for forced induction. There is the possibility that under the familiar bodywork this is actually the next-generation Exige. There is also a strong possibility that this could be some limited edition model. Regardless, as the report gives no real photographic evidence to support the V6 claim, and a V6-powered Exige seems to fly in the face of the light-weight Lotus philosophy, we'll wear our skeptical hat for now. More: Spied: Lotus Exige Caught Testing Out Evora V6 on AutoGuide.com

09-21-2009, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
MNlotus 06 elise Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: apple valley MN Posts: 812	i dont see the point of a v6. a supercharged or turbo 4 cylinder can make alot more power then 276 and would be lighter too __________________ 2006 Lotus Elise-way too many mods to list (k24 swap planned. 300+whp) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjIcCsvhWvY 2003 Caterham Super Seven DeDion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ysO...e=channel_page

09-21-2009, 11:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	availability / reliability / emissions / cost etc __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

09-21-2009, 12:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
RichS No, it's only an N/A Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,285	6 What is the actual weight difference between the two engines? Given the choice between a highly strung FI 4 pushed towards the very ragged edge or a less tightly wound 6 that delivered a better torque curve, I'd probably go with the 6. __________________ Useful links to vendors removed at Nadeem's request. "Nice avatar by the way, I doubt Colin Chapman would have followed the herd as I have seen many here do. --Nadeem"

09-21-2009, 12:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
jlj3394 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 844	This is the same engine as our ES300, but with more power. This is an excellent engine. I bought from a private part for a song and immediately changed the oil, sending the drained oil to a lab for analysis (Blackstone). Their reply was "no one would rip off an attorney, would they?" They estimated the oil at 20,000 old. Ouch. We've driven it for 35,000 miles since then and it runs like a champ - 30 MPG mixed, no repairs to date (knock on wood). Smooth power delivery on a rather heavy sedan with a slushbox. Lab analysis now predicts it will go past 250k. I would think that this engine would offer better reliability and power delivery versus the supercharged 4 bangers. It will also offer a sick amount of power with forced induction, providing you can find a place to fit it (unless Phil comes up with a TVS solution for this as well). __________________ 05 GG Elise: Exige clam, LSS, Stage 2, ACT HD, DBA5000, CF scoops/splitter/mirrors/panels Others: Lex ES300Coach, Volvo V70R 300hp/260k Missed:01&04 Wranglers, 71 CJ5(225V6) Need a Johnson County or Kansas City personal injury/wrongful death attorney/lawyer/law firm?http://www.kcatty.com Looking for a Johnson County, KS DUI lawyer/attorney? http://www.JohnsonCountyDUI.com Need a Johnson County, KS lawyer/attorney to help amend or fix a speeding/traffic ticket? http://www.JoCoTraffic.com

09-21-2009, 12:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Uncle Sam #14 Sport Elise Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockville, Maryland Posts: 861 Images: 2	Wouldn't a V6 take some valuable trunk space from the Exige?

09-21-2009, 12:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Demonized NOT ßANNED! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,546	Also, With a V6 configuration, you might be able to slap the supercharger ontop of the engine. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Katana Supercharger, LSS Wheels, 2Bular exhaust & cat, rear panel delete, Cup Airbox, Volt / Oil temp gauge, Ohlins double adjustable coilovers, Dual Oil Coolers, S111 RTD Brace, Moroso Oil Pan, MicroMirror, S111 "V-Force" Harness bar, Manly Engine Mounts, Odyssey PC680 & RLS Bracket, Saikou Michi OCC, CF Scoops, CF Bootlid, CF Front Lip.

09-21-2009, 12:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
ItsThaMonsta Will There Be Cake? Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,086	TORQUE!!!!!

09-21-2009, 01:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	There is already has a TVS SC for this engine and setup and its the right sized TVS. //As reasons favoring the FI four or the six cylinder? 6 probably, since they're already using the engine, longevity, it meets emissions etc. The story goes that after the engine was tested for a long time, it actually showed a gain in HP __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

09-21-2009, 02:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
MNlotus 06 elise Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: apple valley MN Posts: 812	i think its time for some one to put a rotary motor in a lotus __________________ 2006 Lotus Elise-way too many mods to list (k24 swap planned. 300+whp) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjIcCsvhWvY 2003 Caterham Super Seven DeDion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ysO...e=channel_page

09-21-2009, 03:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
texige Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: austin texas Posts: 839	Combine a 350+ hp FI V6 with the Malaysian GT3 body, sell it for under $100,000 and Wow! Malaysian GT3 at Penang Autshow

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