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LARRY · 11-03-2006, 12:51 PM

What?

Rowdstar · 11-04-2006, 12:25 AM

did i miss the community's reaction to this?? looks like the modified elise was pretty much last. i just had a second to skim it in the airport...

was their cover story about top tuner car challenge type thing...

AnsisK · 11-13-2006, 01:56 PM

Yes, the car was absolutely destroyed in the article. I flipped through it to see where the Lise would place in each category. It was a Prototype Racing car, with something like 280hp or something. It still only managed 13.xx on the 1/4 and 0.9x on the skid. It was rather embarassing. The car was also pretty weak on track, placing near the bottom. It finished last overall.

catapult · 11-13-2006, 02:12 PM

Is there a link? Can someone post the article?

PhlypSide · 11-13-2006, 02:17 PM

Who's car was featured? Is it the one with the K20A in it? If so there's a thread from last month (or older) congratulating Joe McCarthy on this (IIRC).

catapult · 11-13-2006, 02:29 PM

Found the article. Yeah it was the K20A car.

bambam · 11-13-2006, 02:37 PM

If I recall, the problem was a # of things:

1. The car was late to the judging. Therefore it got 0 points in a # of events for not even being there.
2. When it did show up, the engine work/tuning was not complete. So it was not running at peak power.
3. I think there were some concerns about the tires. The car was driven from some distance (Not Trailered), therefore it had normal street tires, and not the DOT legal Auto-x or Road Racing wheels like some of the other cars.
4. A couple of events were based on 'Car Show Looks' and 'Girlfriend Friendly' and something like 'Everyday Drivability'. In these events the Lotus was hurting because of the difficulty of entry, limited visibility out the rear/sides and comfort factors.

I believe even the article said that things could have been very different if all of the cars had been properly prepped and on time....

For what it is worth: Most of the European based magazines seem to rate the Lotus pretty high on their ‘Must Have’ lists. Based primarily on the fact that you get a supercar look, feel and drive for a modest price. Everyone freely admits it is designed for racing and not as a grocery getter for your wife. Nor was it necessarily designed to be doing 10 hour trips across the New Mexico dessert (although I have indeed done this) in any type of luxurious manner.

So no matter what the SCC Ultimate Street Car says, I still love the hell out of my Lotus…

--B

fitfan · 11-13-2006, 02:39 PM

Mr. Mcartney's car... i have no idea why they let that car in, no chance against how well preparred and sorted the top cars were. i guess the mag didn't do any kind of vetting?

there was another thread about it - mostly very sacarstic!

PhlypSide · 11-13-2006, 02:45 PM

Aha.. here's the other (sarcastically congratulatory)thread on this very topic:
http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29911

I imagine that if they had tested a stock Lotus Sport Elise or perhaps a ForcedFed Elise that we would've ranked much better off

PhlypSide · 11-13-2006, 02:49 PM

Interesting post from the other thread...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dk10438

well someone was nice enough to post the article on MM so those that are interested can read it over there. in JM's defense, his car did make 284 hp, unfortunately, his car couldn't pull more than a g on the skidpad. i thought that the LSS can already pull a 1.03 g???

JimK · 11-13-2006, 02:53 PM

Also looks like the car was wearing the base model wheels and tires, that can't help.

catapult · 11-13-2006, 06:20 PM

I don't get it. Why submit a car if its not ready especially if you're trying to promote your business? I don't know Joe or his K20A conversion but after reading that article I don't think I'd be too keen on things.

mark.r · 11-13-2006, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catapult

I don't get it. Why submit a car if its not ready especially if you're trying to promote your business? I don't know Joe or his K20A conversion but after reading that article I don't think I'd be too keen on things.

I am with you. Every year someone shows up with a pile rubbish that shouldn't even be let into the comp. I really wish some of the bigger name tuners would show up as well.

Shaggy · 11-15-2006, 07:51 AM

The whole thing that killed me about the article/cars performance was that their modified Elise performed worse than a stock Elise. I started flipping through it the other night and was immediately like "What the hell, a stock Elise can do that in the quarter, can pull better on the skidpad, etc". Hopefully that car's showing won't kill people's opinions of these cars.

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11-04-2006, 12:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rowdstar sandy lame-o Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 386	sport compact car did i miss the community's reaction to this?? looks like the modified elise was pretty much last. i just had a second to skim it in the airport... was their cover story about top tuner car challenge type thing... __________________ www.rowdystyle.blogspot.com <--a fun read WWJBD? What would James Bond do?

11-13-2006, 02:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
fitfan Regurgitated User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 4,089	Mr. Mcartney's car... i have no idea why they let that car in, no chance against how well preparred and sorted the top cars were. i guess the mag didn't do any kind of vetting? there was another thread about it - mostly very sacarstic! __________________ Driving it around!

11-13-2006, 02:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
JimK rooster Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bettendorf, IA Posts: 2,142	Also looks like the car was wearing the base model wheels and tires, that can't help. __________________ curator of C32B, J35Z3, J37A1, F20C. former 2ZZGE owner.

11-15-2006, 07:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
Shaggy Lean, Mean, Green, Gone.. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,039 Images: 6	The whole thing that killed me about the article/cars performance was that their modified Elise performed worse than a stock Elise. I started flipping through it the other night and was immediately like "What the hell, a stock Elise can do that in the quarter, can pull better on the skidpad, etc". Hopefully that car's showing won't kill people's opinions of these cars. __________________ 2005 KG Lotus Elise (Gone ) Sector111 Lidbone \|\| Sector111 Front towhook \|\| Sector111 Rear Boomerang towhook \|\| Alpine CDA-9856 & iPod \|\| 111R Decals \|\| Zoom Carbon Fiber Rearview Mirror \|\| Green Filter & de-snorkel \|\| ForcedFed Half Carbon Front Lip Spoiler \|\| ChaseCam window mount 2001 Laguna Seca Blue BMW M3 (the replacement)

11-13-2006, 01:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
AnsisK Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,457	Yes, the car was absolutely destroyed in the article. I flipped through it to see where the Lise would place in each category. It was a Prototype Racing car, with something like 280hp or something. It still only managed 13.xx on the 1/4 and 0.9x on the skid. It was rather embarassing. The car was also pretty weak on track, placing near the bottom. It finished last overall.

11-13-2006, 02:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
catapult Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,569	Is there a link? Can someone post the article?

11-13-2006, 02:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
PhlypSide My Lotus hates my bike. Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 4,452 Images: 9	Who's car was featured? Is it the one with the K20A in it? If so there's a thread from last month (or older) congratulating Joe McCarthy on this (IIRC).

11-13-2006, 02:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
catapult Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,569	Found the article. Yeah it was the K20A car.

11-13-2006, 02:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
bambam Newb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia & Florida Posts: 109	If I recall, the problem was a # of things: 1. The car was late to the judging. Therefore it got 0 points in a # of events for not even being there. 2. When it did show up, the engine work/tuning was not complete. So it was not running at peak power. 3. I think there were some concerns about the tires. The car was driven from some distance (Not Trailered), therefore it had normal street tires, and not the DOT legal Auto-x or Road Racing wheels like some of the other cars. 4. A couple of events were based on 'Car Show Looks' and 'Girlfriend Friendly' and something like 'Everyday Drivability'. In these events the Lotus was hurting because of the difficulty of entry, limited visibility out the rear/sides and comfort factors. I believe even the article said that things could have been very different if all of the cars had been properly prepped and on time.... For what it is worth: Most of the European based magazines seem to rate the Lotus pretty high on their ‘Must Have’ lists. Based primarily on the fact that you get a supercar look, feel and drive for a modest price. Everyone freely admits it is designed for racing and not as a grocery getter for your wife. Nor was it necessarily designed to be doing 10 hour trips across the New Mexico dessert (although I have indeed done this) in any type of luxurious manner. So no matter what the SCC Ultimate Street Car says, I still love the hell out of my Lotus… --B

11-13-2006, 02:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
PhlypSide My Lotus hates my bike. Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 4,452 Images: 9	Aha.. here's the other (sarcastically congratulatory)thread on this very topic: http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29911 I imagine that if they had tested a stock Lotus Sport Elise or perhaps a ForcedFed Elise that we would've ranked much better off

11-13-2006, 06:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
catapult Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,569	I don't get it. Why submit a car if its not ready especially if you're trying to promote your business? I don't know Joe or his K20A conversion but after reading that article I don't think I'd be too keen on things.

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