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10-03-2009, 11:40 PM
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As of last month, they're still not on the RIV admissible list. Given that Canada's bumper laws were changed more than a year ago now, I'm guessing it's not happening.
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10-04-2009, 10:33 AM
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Much as I wanted to be able to import one when I was buying, if its allowed now, current owners will see their cars devalued by $10-15K overnight. It just sucks this wasn't allowed from the beginning.
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10-04-2009, 11:15 AM
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biffster, nobody is going to weep for the loss of your artificially inflated resale value. My car is mostly sitting in storage in NY State because of this rule. I'm at the point now where I'd be willing to invest a couple hundred thousand $ getting the law changed, on general principle. If only I knew where to invest it. Perhaps a class action of potential new owners.
The entire nation of Canada is such a racket. I thought things were bad in the US.
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10-04-2009, 11:59 AM
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this is sad......
i always wanted an exige for my weekend track car... what if i bring one up here and put a dealer plate to drive it? the diffence from US cars to Canadian cars scare me away, i am looking at a used S240 and its $75000cad and where in US its only $50000, thats $25000 difference for the same car!!! and i have more color choice from the US too... that really sucks.... |
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10-04-2009, 12:52 PM
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I plan on keeping mine for a while so it shouldn't matter for me, but losing $10k like that sucks. So yes, there will be several hundred Cdn owners that will be pissed. Its Lotus that won't provide the required info to Cdn authorities and they're not going to chase the manufacturers. And its the dealers that put pressure on Lotus to keep it that way. Without dealers in the country, who would buy one? I wouldn't if I had to tow it across the border, would it void warranty, etc. Some have said that without the current dealers, the Elise would never have made it here as it wasn't in Lotus's plan. Circular argument, I know - who is really at fault for the current situation?
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10-04-2009, 01:09 PM
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what if i bring one up here and put a dealer plate to drive it? Do you really want to know what'll happen if you get caught? Not worth it. There's no ways around it. I've tried when I was inquiring about the same thing. I asked everywhere including the dealership here in BC. Wanted to see if maybe they could step in and get it for me or something, from Cali. But nope. It's not possible. It sucks to have to shell out that much more, but that's just what we got to do. Happy hunting. Cheers,
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SIMPLE RECIPE FOR EXCITEMENT: Take 1 new Exige. Throw in a supercharger. Add 6 gears. A dash of 94 Octane. A sprinkle of style inside and out. Toss in 1 MadMan. And finally heat tires and pavement to taste. Recipe produces 1 Lotus Exige'S' and full satisfaction. Hammer Down!! |
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10-04-2009, 02:41 PM
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Yeah I was under the impression that the reason is to protect the Canadian Lotus dealerships. Lotus needs dealerships around and service centers here but if they allow imports from the US those dealerships will vanish. I think dealerships r also supposed to take X-amount of quota per year too.
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10-04-2009, 08:16 PM
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So much I hate to pay more in Canada but I have to agree that the lotus dealers should be protected. Lotus is not like other cars that selling many thousands a year. The dealer will not survive if Lotus could be imported.
Think about it. Without any dealer in Canada, we will also have no chance to import the car at all. At least the dealers helped introducing Lotus to Canada. Funny this topic comes up every few months.  |
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10-05-2009, 07:16 AM
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Foot to the oil pan baby!
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It's like that with all CDN dealerships though. The markup is high for the same exact car that you can buy in the States for way cheaper. Thats why a lot of CDn's were hopping over the border to buy Hondas, Fords and Chevs for around $10K less than the sticker price up here, when the dollar was par with the Americans But only certain cars can come over. Then it wasnt long after before others had to step and put the kibosh on that because they realized how out of control that was getting and CDN dealers losing so much.
Still though I agree. If we are 'to save' Lotus dealers by purchasing up here, than why is the markup so high on them compared to the southerly conterparts? A $25K savings is quite substantial. I'm no less bitter than the next guy. But I'm guessing because the car falls under the sports car category, they feel like they can chuck on another $25G, because only rich people can buy them and they can afford the markup???
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SIMPLE RECIPE FOR EXCITEMENT: Take 1 new Exige. Throw in a supercharger. Add 6 gears. A dash of 94 Octane. A sprinkle of style inside and out. Toss in 1 MadMan. And finally heat tires and pavement to taste. Recipe produces 1 Lotus Exige'S' and full satisfaction. Hammer Down!! |
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10-05-2009, 07:48 AM
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I come to accept the fact that everything is more expensive in Canada even a paper clip. We don't have a large enough market for anything. A lot of goods are shipped to the US first before coming to Canada. Of course, US would mark up the price before shipping to Canada. I am not surprised the Canadian Lotus cars are from the US too.
Welcome to Canada. It is not like you don't get riped by sales tax everyday. And guess what, Hormonized Sales tax is on its way....  |
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10-05-2009, 09:52 AM
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Market size has nothing to do with it!
I agree that the CDN dealerships need protection, however, paying such a premium is not right either, especially that the CDN dealerships pay the same amount for the cars than the US dealerships. In fact, the major problem here is that there are only 3 dealerships in the entire of Canada that sell lotus....... so they are basically price fixing and using the protection from lotus to take more of our $$... If prices were adjusted to match our cousins south of the border... then there would be no need for this discussion! |
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10-06-2009, 05:28 AM
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Wow...this is news to me. I'm in NH now but contemplating a move to BC. I won't be able to bring my Elise with me??? Holy crap that sucks! Vancouver may have just lost me...Seattle here I come!
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10-06-2009, 01:13 PM
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Having only 3 dealers across this country doesnt help much either. If there was maybe more competition that wasnt spread so far apart like they are, than maybe that would help bring down the markup. But for now, I guess we got to live with it, or go to your local dealer and beg for mercy on the MSRP. Although, dont think that'll get ya far. Weissach was just awarded a medal in sales and was considered to be the top Lotus seller in all of west North America or something like that, wasnt it? So it doesnt appear as though anyone will have sympathy for us. But the gents at Weissach are quite the knowledgeable and well-rounded chaps around in Lotus sales that I came across. Guess we just got to suck it up. Maybe we can get a substantial LotusTalk forum discount on our next purchase?? But on the other side, if dealers here dropped the markup on them a few thousand or so, I bet there would be more sales of them, for those whom are shopping around and comparing with other vehicles of choice. The higher the markup, the less chance someone will purchase one. We can always hope.
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SIMPLE RECIPE FOR EXCITEMENT: Take 1 new Exige. Throw in a supercharger. Add 6 gears. A dash of 94 Octane. A sprinkle of style inside and out. Toss in 1 MadMan. And finally heat tires and pavement to taste. Recipe produces 1 Lotus Exige'S' and full satisfaction. Hammer Down!! Last edited by MadMan Markiss : 10-06-2009 at 01:19 PM. |
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10-06-2009, 01:16 PM
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SIMPLE RECIPE FOR EXCITEMENT: Take 1 new Exige. Throw in a supercharger. Add 6 gears. A dash of 94 Octane. A sprinkle of style inside and out. Toss in 1 MadMan. And finally heat tires and pavement to taste. Recipe produces 1 Lotus Exige'S' and full satisfaction. Hammer Down!! |
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10-06-2009, 01:47 PM
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