2zz-ge Oil test Blackstone lab - LotusTalk

kortik · 10-31-2009, 11:37 PM

ok did some oil test on my 2zz matrix take a look

Current Oct 2009

Below is back in May 2009

so did anybody done oil test on your 2zz I just want to compare here in Seattle area.

speedneed · 11-01-2009, 09:07 PM

u really got nothing else to do???

...btw...why???
what purpose will that serve??

just wonder....

Seb · 11-01-2009, 09:12 PM

It's good for diagnosing future head gasket issues.

kortik · 11-01-2009, 09:18 PM

the oil test gives me an idea if I should go longer on oil change intervals with amsoil 0w30 or stick w/5K miles etc... Also potential problems like coolant in the engine or dirt and general wear of the engine. also if the oil stays within the same viscosity

Bleu Omdurman · 11-01-2009, 09:19 PM

Actually, just about any large organization with a fleet of vehicles has this done on a regular basis. It's a good idea as it can spot problems long before there actually is much of a problem. Given how much Kortik cares for his Matrix and the miles that he puts on it (nearly 100k at this point) I think its a good idea. Especially for someone that wants to keep the current car for a long time.

I should probably do this for my track car.

kortik · 11-01-2009, 09:21 PM

yeah I am at ~93k miles. I just want to keep this car for long time and keep my engine healthy. cause I love 2zz

Evil Twin · 11-09-2009, 07:06 AM

I think oil testing is conceptually interesting and (if you've trying to maintain a fleet of 1000 trucks, it can save huge amounts of money), but in our case I'm not sure there's really all that much value in doing it. It's a Toyota motor (kinda, sorta). Just go beat on it and don't worry so much. Plus, it's cheap, so you can always buy another one without breaking the bank. Still, thanks for sharing this.

kortik · 11-13-2009, 11:46 AM

no problem.
well I decided to boost my 2zz on my matrix
it sure healthy and wear is minimal.
but I will be changing to Castrol Synthetic Edge oil 5w30 and do shorter intervals.
my last Amsoil 0w30 SSO oil will be changed at 10k miles and then will be sent to Lab for the test to find out whats up.

Noizemaker · 11-22-2009, 03:07 PM

I've been wanting to do this for a while, interesting to see how personalized their interpretations are. I expected a machine printout with no human interaction.

Pengineer91 · 11-22-2009, 05:07 PM

I had the oil analyzed the last time I changed it in my Elise. Syntec 5w-40 sheared out of grade (down to a 30 weight) in about 1000mi with 300 track miles. There was no coolant contamination or fuel dilution.

I see value in knowing this as it leads me to believe that the Syntec is not robust enough for my use. I'm trying Valvoline Synpower 5w-40 next, and will perform a similar analysis to see which performs better.

ACE51 · 11-22-2009, 05:37 PM

kind of like reading a nutritional facts table! makes me think you could drink it. interesting stuff!

tvacc · 11-22-2009, 08:03 PM

First let me say that this is not a bad rap on Blackstone....
It is what it is and I did notify Blackstone about this. Oil testing is a tried and true science....but...

I had my car oil tested twice. Once right before I pulled the cam cover at 18000 miles. And there was nothing unusual noted except for a higher nickel content....which was not deemed alarming to Blackstone.

When I pulled my cam cover, it had worn cams.

Dont know what to say...why....how....or whatever else.

This is just what happaned.....

10-31-2009, 11:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
kortik Matrix XRS 2zz-ge Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 306	2zz-ge Oil test Blackstone lab ok did some oil test on my 2zz matrix take a look Current Oct 2009 Below is back in May 2009 so did anybody done oil test on your 2zz I just want to compare here in Seattle area. __________________ 05 Toyota Matrix XRS Indigo Ink Pearl 2zz-ge Progress Rear Sway Bar TRD STB PBR Groundwires MagnaFlow Cat Back Exhaust Tein SS coilovers TWM Short Shifter Injen CAI C-one perfromance Fr. Rr. Bar C-one Underpanel

11-01-2009, 09:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
speedneed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lynnwood WA Posts: 123	u really got nothing else to do???...btw...why??? what purpose will that serve?? just wonder.... __________________ 05 green elise sc-255HP,quaife LSD,LSS,HT,exige s exhaust EXCURSION 220" stretch limo-new 91 black nsx 06 EVO IX 76 porsche 914 RENEGADE HYBRIDS 350 chevy 3 yellow TYPE R's

11-01-2009, 09:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
kortik Matrix XRS 2zz-ge Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 306	the oil test gives me an idea if I should go longer on oil change intervals with amsoil 0w30 or stick w/5K miles etc... Also potential problems like coolant in the engine or dirt and general wear of the engine. also if the oil stays within the same viscosity __________________ 05 Toyota Matrix XRS Indigo Ink Pearl 2zz-ge Progress Rear Sway Bar TRD STB PBR Groundwires MagnaFlow Cat Back Exhaust Tein SS coilovers TWM Short Shifter Injen CAI C-one perfromance Fr. Rr. Bar C-one Underpanel

11-01-2009, 09:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bleu Omdurman More track time please. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,692	Actually, just about any large organization with a fleet of vehicles has this done on a regular basis. It's a good idea as it can spot problems long before there actually is much of a problem. Given how much Kortik cares for his Matrix and the miles that he puts on it (nearly 100k at this point) I think its a good idea. Especially for someone that wants to keep the current car for a long time. I should probably do this for my track car. __________________ Take my track day survey: here You should enjoy it. 10 questions. Now take survey #2 here Mods: TurboXS Intake, Ultra Disc Rotors, Adare Motorsports Racing Pads.

11-01-2009, 09:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
kortik Matrix XRS 2zz-ge Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 306	yeah I am at ~93k miles. I just want to keep this car for long time and keep my engine healthy. cause I love 2zz __________________ 05 Toyota Matrix XRS Indigo Ink Pearl 2zz-ge Progress Rear Sway Bar TRD STB PBR Groundwires MagnaFlow Cat Back Exhaust Tein SS coilovers TWM Short Shifter Injen CAI C-one perfromance Fr. Rr. Bar C-one Underpanel

11-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Seb <3 QR25DE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 753	It's good for diagnosing future head gasket issues.

11-09-2009, 07:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Evil Twin No Livestock on Track! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 858 Images: 14	I think oil testing is conceptually interesting and (if you've trying to maintain a fleet of 1000 trucks, it can save huge amounts of money), but in our case I'm not sure there's really all that much value in doing it. It's a Toyota motor (kinda, sorta). Just go beat on it and don't worry so much. Plus, it's cheap, so you can always buy another one without breaking the bank. Still, thanks for sharing this. __________________ 2005 Graphite Gray with Black Interior, Sports Package, Touring Package, Hard Top, Starshield, 6-point Schroth Harness, Fire Extinguisher, and Wiring Loom for DL-1. Otherwise bone stock -- and staying that way -- okay, okay, that's true if you ignore the Braille battery, Micro mirror, Multivex mirrors, ROTA slipstreams, RA-1s, two-piece rotors, springs, polyurethane ASB bushings, RTD brace, Sparco seat, and all the stuff I've taken out of the car...

11-13-2009, 11:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
kortik Matrix XRS 2zz-ge Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 306	no problem. well I decided to boost my 2zz on my matrix it sure healthy and wear is minimal. but I will be changing to Castrol Synthetic Edge oil 5w30 and do shorter intervals. my last Amsoil 0w30 SSO oil will be changed at 10k miles and then will be sent to Lab for the test to find out whats up. __________________ 05 Toyota Matrix XRS Indigo Ink Pearl 2zz-ge Progress Rear Sway Bar TRD STB PBR Groundwires MagnaFlow Cat Back Exhaust Tein SS coilovers TWM Short Shifter Injen CAI C-one perfromance Fr. Rr. Bar C-one Underpanel

11-22-2009, 03:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Noizemaker General Freakin' Lee. :( Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bellevue WA Posts: 330	I've been wanting to do this for a while, interesting to see how personalized their interpretations are. I expected a machine printout with no human interaction. __________________ -Matt 05 Chrome Orange. Touring, LSS wheels, The Blue Sector111 radiator of doom, Dieselgeek 1/4 turn kit, 1/4din Oil Temp gauge, Starshield, LETSLA, HKS exhaust etc etc etc. 99 Neon ACR. Broken. 2.4l, T3/T4, T850 swap, SRT seats, etc etc etc.

11-22-2009, 05:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pengineer91 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southern NH Posts: 97	I had the oil analyzed the last time I changed it in my Elise. Syntec 5w-40 sheared out of grade (down to a 30 weight) in about 1000mi with 300 track miles. There was no coolant contamination or fuel dilution. I see value in knowing this as it leads me to believe that the Syntec is not robust enough for my use. I'm trying Valvoline Synpower 5w-40 next, and will perform a similar analysis to see which performs better.

11-22-2009, 05:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 614	kind of like reading a nutritional facts table! makes me think you could drink it. interesting stuff! __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

11-22-2009, 08:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
tvacc Head LOONY Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 2,226	First let me say that this is not a bad rap on Blackstone.... It is what it is and I did notify Blackstone about this. Oil testing is a tried and true science....but... I had my car oil tested twice. Once right before I pulled the cam cover at 18000 miles. And there was nothing unusual noted except for a higher nickel content....which was not deemed alarming to Blackstone. When I pulled my cam cover, it had worn cams. Dont know what to say...why....how....or whatever else. This is just what happaned..... __________________ Tony Vaccaro 2005 Ardent Red, Katana Supercharger, Touring, Hardtop, Driving Lights, HIDs, Rear Window Shield, Red Mounts, Laser Shifters, V1, LETSLA Shifter, www.lotusowners.com LOONY (Lotus Owners of New York) and the Church of the HolyLotus Supplier of Polycarbonate Shield for Rear Window IN STOCK , Drive Fast Take Chances

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