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Old 11-20-2008, 08:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exige vs Audi S4

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My friend has a 06 Audi S4 so we wanted to see which car is faster. I have a almost stock 06 exige with intake and ReVerie rear wing. His S4 has 340hp
4.2 v8. From 0-60 I beat him by 3 cars. On the highway the cars are almost the same.
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Old 11-20-2008, 09:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My friend has a 06 Audi S4 so we wanted to see which car is faster. I have a almost stock 06 exige with intake and ReVerie rear wing. His S4 has 340hp
4.2 v8. From 0-60 I beat him by 3 cars. On the highway the cars are almost the same.
How about, it depends?

0-60 probably the Lotus (light weight wins). Maximum top speed definitely the Audi (high power wins). On a random roadracing or autocross circuit, a good driver who knows both cars well could probably get slightly better lap times with the Lotus. Winning a "race" on public roads is mainly a question of who is the bigger idiot.
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Well, I have a 2004 S4 and a 2007 Exige S...

0-60? It's close. After 60? The Audi will easily hit it's 155 mph speed limiter... the Exige (with 220 stock HP) will probably not even reach 150 mph.

If there are twisties, it's no contest. The Audi handles well for a 3700 pound 4-door sedan, but it's not even close to the Exige's handling capabilites...

At an autocross, I'd have to expect the Audi would be at least 3-4 seconds slower in a typical 60 second course.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have an s240 and rs4. S240 runs away in 1st,2nd and part of 3rd easily 6 car lengths but then the fantastic 3rd gear power of the rs4 kicks in and quickly gains. Only done it up to 110 and rs4 is now pulling on the s240.
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Old 11-20-2008, 11:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That means that in under 12 seconds the Audi is saying bye bye? You have both those cars - lucky!! The Audi is just an incredible, understated classy car.
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I had an Elise and an Audi S4 Cab (2005.5). The Audi is quick but not even close to the Elise off the line. The Audi is a great car (when it's not in the shop for electrical gremlins) but it's a GT. The V8 is wonderful but the vehicles balance is a mess. The TTv6 of the 1st gen car is much better in that sense and why Audi went back to the v6 (al least in part) with the next gen car. Audi is a great cruiser but it's no sports car.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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i'll let my wife drive the audi...heated seats..and all.....
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I have an s240 and rs4. S240 runs away in 1st,2nd and part of 3rd easily 6 car lengths but then the fantastic 3rd gear power of the rs4 kicks in and quickly gains. Only done it up to 110 and rs4 is now pulling on the s240.
I'm surprised an Exige S240 can pull that much on an RS4?
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I believe the Exige S has the same 0-60 as a Z06. I also know that the Elise tops out at 150mph via lotus website.
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Old 11-21-2008, 09:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
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RS4 weighs a lot...3,700lbs or so plus the way the power is applied its more of a late second gear and hold on third gear. Performance wise I have read a range of 0-60 times but the best I got in the rs4 was 4.6 seconds. Now with any of my cars I don't get crazy with clutch dumps so Im sure you could eak out a bit more. At higher speeds (over 100) the s240 runs out of potent power where as a v8 plows forward. Just guessing but if you keep going by 125 the rs4 would be ahead
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RS4 weighs a lot...3,700lbs or so plus the way the power is applied its more of a late second gear and hold on third gear. Performance wise I have read a range of 0-60 times but the best I got in the rs4 was 4.6 seconds. Now with any of my cars I don't get crazy with clutch dumps so Im sure you could eak out a bit more. At higher speeds (over 100) the s240 runs out of potent power where as a v8 plows forward. Just guessing but if you keep going by 125 the rs4 would be ahead
What about the RS4's AWD? That surely must help from a dig?
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Oh it digs in...just to heavy.
It's more of a lion than a cheetah
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I think that a sports car must communicate with the driver and you have to relly on your driving skills and experience to get the best out of it. There are many cars that are called sports cars, but they are just normal cars with powerfull engines and the S signs all over it.S4 is a great comfortable car to drive everyday and waste gas.
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I think that a sports car must communicate with the driver and you have to relly on your driving skills and experience to get the best out of it. There are many cars that are called sports cars, but they are just normal cars with powerfull engines and the S signs all over it.S4 is a great comfortable car to drive everyday and waste gas.
I agree.. like the SRT-4... its a neon with a turbo.. yay Even the new SRT-4 Caliber.. it reminds me of an angry scion xb.
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Audi is a great cruiser but it's no sports car.
I disagree. I have an RS4 and Elise and have tracked both. The RS4, while not the ideal track car, is still very capable and surprisingly fun on the track (with suspension, wheel and tire upgrades). It has it's deficiencies (weight), but it has many other positives that define it as a competent sports car. It's much more than just a cruiser. I think an RS6 is a cruiser, but the RS4 is a 4-door sports car.
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I disagree. I have an RS4 and Elise and have tracked both. The RS4, while not the best track car, is still very capable and surprisingly fun. It has it's deficiencies (weight), but it has many other positives that firmly define it as a competent sports car, albeit with 4 doors and considerable weight, which is in itself remarkable.
I had a S4 not a RS4 (but I have driven them) so my view may be skewed. Please note these definitions from Wiki (Iknow, I know, but they are pretty good).........

A sports car is a term used to describe a class of automobile. The exact definition varies, [1] but generally it is used to refer to a low to ground, light weight vehicle with a powerful engine. Most vehicles referred to as sports cars are rear-wheel drive, have two seats, two doors, and are designed for more precise handling, acceleration, and aesthetics. A sports car's dominant considerations can be superior road handling, braking, maneuverability, low weight, and high power, rather than passenger space, comfort, and fuel economy

Grand tourers differ from typical sports cars (e.g. Lotus Elise, Porsche 911) in that they are usually larger, heavier (sometimes more than 3,500*lb (1,600*kg)), and tend to make less compromise in comfort for the sake of driving ability. For this reason, most have front-mounted engines, which leave more space for the cabin than mid-mounted engines. They tend to have softer suspensions to provide good ride quality. They also provide bigger storage space and more accessories. However, grand tourers do have similarities with sports cars, such as their use mainly of rear- or four-wheel drive, and the term sports car may be used to describe a car with grand touring qualities. Very high-performance grand tourers, such as the Aston Martin DB9, Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, Nissan GT-R and the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, may be considered to be supercars.
Because of their powerful engines, grand tourers can still compete with many sports cars in top-speed and acceleration. However, in terms of handling they are a magnitude below sports cars, because of their weight and softer suspension. Grand tourers excel at high speed, long distance travel, or races, and make more practical daily drivers than sports cars.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:28 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The RS4 is a high performance sports sedan. It's very capable and better than some sports cars but also not nearly as good as some sports cars. For me, the RS4 fills the performance gap as a daily driver and a darn good one.
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The RS4 is a high performance sports sedan. It's very capable and better than some sports cars but also not nearly as good as some sports cars. For me, the RS4 fills the performance gap as a daily driver and a darn good one.
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