High Plains Lapping Sept 25 and Oct 09

[tempaccount]

I'll be there with some friends.

I'm not fast but it's always fun to have others there to compare notes.

If you haven't been, a Friday session is usually very laid back and you can get as much track time as you could possibly imagine (I generally get between 7-8, 20 min sessions).

I would recommend this over the Exotic Car Club event if you have any previous track experience.

[tempaccount]

It was an incredible day despite being cold and wet in the morning.

I was able to muster consistent low 2:04's and saw some 2:03's on the lap timer.

3:45pm session

4:45pm session

I'll be doing it all over again in 2 weeks on October 9th come out and join. I'd be happy to show someone the ropes.

[Frank Amoroso]

Oh, I dunno, 2:03s / 04s seem pretty fast to me. Nicely done.

Not sure when I'll be out there again, but I've got 400+ laps there so far this season. What a great layout and track.

I'm down at Pueblo this weekend instucting with the BMW club. If I have any R888 left after that I'll look to get to a few more open lapping days at HPR.

Let me know if you are heading out to HPR.

[tempaccount]

I will be out there on October 9th for sure. I would really like to see you out there if you've got the tire. I wouldn't know what a fast lap out at HPR is as I've never really had the opportunity to lap with other experienced Elise drivers (I do know the lap record for a car is in the 1:40's).

But you're correct I've got some track experience, but I don't want to dissuade anyone from coming out because they're afraid of being slow. The quickest way to steepen your learning curve is to learn from a more experienced driver.

Frank, what kind of lap times are you doing? Do you have any video's to share some lines?

I have limited experience in Pueblo but my stock Elise was lapping around 1:45 the last time I was down in Pueblo.

Originally Posted by Frank Amoroso

Oh, I dunno, 2:03s / 04s seem pretty fast to me. Nicely done.

Not sure when I'll be out there again, but I've got 400+ laps there so far this season. What a great layout and track.

I'm down at Pueblo this weekend instucting with the BMW club. If I have any R888 left after that I'll look to get to a few more open lapping days at HPR.

Let me know if you are heading out to HPR.

[tempaccount]

Called the local gas station, checked the weather on the web, everything looks good for an afternoon lapping session.

I should be there from noon to 5pm, if anyone would like to join.

[Frank Amoroso]

Ugh, I just saw your last two posts (I s'pose I should subscibe to threads I'm a part of, eh?). Either way, I wasn't able to make it out today as I have no rear tahrs left (they were pretty much toast for Pueblo when I was there on Saturday) and no battery for that matter. Let me know how it is though. I'm considering open lapping on Friday afternoon 10/16.

Check this vid

YouTube - RMR PCA HPR Initiation Daze - DB Cayman S

HPR Lap times
D Sports Racer 1:41.9 (lap record)
Formula Enterprises open wheel Mazda: 1:47
GTA1 Class Porsche: 1:50.7
Spec Miata record is 2:09 flat
Motorcycle record is 1:44 (Fn flyin'!)
I haven't officially timed myself, but in the '05 Elise runnning R888s I'm at ~2:10

Pueblo Typical Lap Times
Porsche 993 1:48:1
Porsche 944-Spec 1:49 - 1:54
Spec Miata 1:49 - 1:54
Spec Porsche 911 TT 1:49 - 1:5


You're rockin' it. Congrats.

Perhaps I'll see you next Friday.

[tempaccount]

The track was cold and a little slippery but I always have a good time. I was able to work on turn 3,5 and 7 and dropped my times into the 2:00.XX.

It would have been nice to break the 2min barrier but that will need to be on another day with a little more heat in the track.

I'm due for a set of brake pads and I'd like to get a little more front end grip so I think I'm going to get some steering arms and increase the front camber. Hopefully I have another day or two on my RA1's and then I need to decide 888 or NT01 (I need to hold off on the Hoosier crack as long as possible).

2:00.63 lap at HPR on Vimeo

[Frank Amoroso]

2.00s. Nice! I'd be happy w/ 2:05s for the moment! I'm doing the Lotus Sport Ohlins & front bar + Cup 240 wheels over the winter. Not sure what kinda tires I'll run yet though. I have been running R888s in stock sizes, but my understanding is that they are being discontinued and Toyo is bringing the RA1 back from the dead. I LOVED the RA1s when I used to run them on my Audi. Here's hoping that Toyo sold enough 195/50-16 R888s that they bring the RA1 out in that size when they reintroduce 'em. I don't despise the 888 like the Spec Miata & Spec 944 folks do. Yeah it heat cycles, but not like the A048s do. Everything's relative I guess. I may actually try and find a set of used A005 slicks to try on the cup wheels. I have three sets of wheels so I may do:

R888s for club events (4-5 ~20 min heat cycles per day).
A048s for open lapping (less sessions, but longer stints).
A005s (****s & grins).

What size RA1s are you running? Rumor has it that NT01s are the same compund as RA1s (with a different tread pattern of course).

If you want to install V2 arms and brake pads, I have the tools... V2Arms Install Log (pics & questions too)

Sadly, I don't have the lift installed in the garage yet, but
I'd gladly trade you out for some HPR tips n tricks!

[tempaccount]

Thanks for the offer on the tools I will definitely take you up on it.

I looked at the pics and the lift you used looks very similar to Pete's lift at the Tire Source?

I'm running a 15/16 setup on my Elise. 225 front and 245 rear.

I was eyeballing the Ohlins setup but I think the spring rates are on the border of too soft and the spring sizes aren't very easy to come by. I went with a DA Nitron setup and I have a garage full of springs to play with.

I also looked at your rear camber settings:
LR: -2.5 degrees camber w/ ABS sensor bracket shim + 1.0mm V2 shim
RR: -2.4 degrees camber w/ ABS sensor bracket shim + 1.0mm + 0.5mm V2 shims

How are your rear insides wearing? I was running:LR: -2.5 RR: -2.3. The pyrometer and tire wear said the insides of the tires were doing more work. I put a shim back in each side before the last sessions on Friday and the rear felt a little more stable...

As for sheets and giggles, I'd like to run some slicks but $$$ per heatcycle I'm not sure my wallet can take it.