Some video from Hallett... - LotusTalk

Chili Red · 06-13-2009, 06:12 PM

Myself, LordZ and XTN made a trip up to Hallett on Thursday and had a blast. If you have not been to Hallett its worth the trip, even from Houston. This was my first time to Hallett and I only got 4 sessions before I boiled my brake fluid. With some more time I could be a bit faster.

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ocelotspot · 06-13-2009, 07:34 PM

great video. It appears that you have to counter some oversteer in braking and acceleration? Is that more driver input or something that can be tweaked in the car? Noticed different wheels ft to rr. these your track tyres? DOT rubber? Have you gotten into set up much? If you have what have you done?A buddy of mine tests his spec racers there. Never seen the track... turns 7/8/9 look real rhythmic (ie fun) Gotta love the blind corners. Thanks for the entertainment.

LordZ · 06-13-2009, 07:47 PM

Yup was a blast. Need to find a DE or something up there that has a two day event. One day just wasn't enough!

Chili Red · 06-14-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ocelotspot

great video. It appears that you have to counter some oversteer in braking and acceleration? Is that more driver input or something that can be tweaked in the car? Noticed different wheels ft to rr. these your track tyres? DOT rubber? Have you gotten into set up much? If you have what have you done?A buddy of mine tests his spec racers there. Never seen the track... turns 7/8/9 look real rhythmic (ie fun) Gotta love the blind corners. Thanks for the entertainment.

Cars can always be tweaked, but in my case its mostly pushing the limits on corner entry on a extremely bumpy track with really stiff suspension.

Yes those are my track wheels. Hopefully they will be off to powder coat next week so they will at least match. Im running Toyo RA1's on them so yes they are DOT Street tires.

Have not messed with setup much other than alignment and tire sizes. One of these days Ill probably work on adjusting the suspension.

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Originally Posted by LordZ

Yup was a blast. Need to find a DE or something up there that has a two day event. One day just wasn't enough!

The Cobra Club is going up the weekend of June 20th..

I loved the track, not sure im ready to go back that soon though..

xtn · 06-14-2009, 02:49 PM

I love the awesomyness!

xtn

Chili Red · 06-14-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xtn

I love the awesomyness!

xtn

BTW, thanks again for the CD, the pictures came out great. Not sure what was up with the slow-mo 10 second videos though..

eurosport · 06-14-2009, 03:28 PM

You guys must have gone up for the test and tune day. Nice job getting around for your first time there! I've been around Hallett on 2 and 4 wheels and it's definitely a fun and technical track that's hard on brakes, several nice elevation changes. With a little more track time you'll find at least 5 more seconds to lose.

Post up if you guys are heading up again, I'd like to come out and watch the fun. Don't forget the "HST (high speed touring)" days which are basically open track sessions held along with competition days.

Chili Red · 06-14-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by eurosport

You guys must have gone up for the test and tune day. Nice job getting around for your first time there! I've been around Hallett on 2 and 4 wheels and it's definitely a fun and technical track that's hard on brakes, several nice elevation changes. With a little more track time you'll find at least 5 more seconds to lose.

Post up if you guys are heading up again, I'd like to come out and watch the fun. Don't forget the "HST (high speed touring)" days which are basically open track sessions held along with competition days.

I honestly have a hard time believing there is 5 seconds left on that track. Im thinking more like 2, maybe 3 on a cool day. A 1:24 would be seriously moving.

Oh and yes we were up there on a Test & Tune day, we do plan to go again sometime soon (probably when it cools off). We will be sure to post here to get some more people involved.

Alphonse · 06-15-2009, 04:10 AM

Sounds like you guys had fun. I told you you'd like it. Definitely a place to help strengthen ones pucker factor.

eurosport · 06-15-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chili Red

I honestly have a hard time believing there is 5 seconds left on that track. Im thinking more like 2, maybe 3 on a cool day. A 1:24 would be seriously moving.

Oh and yes we were up there on a Test & Tune day, we do plan to go again sometime soon (probably when it cools off). We will be sure to post here to get some more people involved.

I've run mid-20's in my RX7, so I'd think with some fresh tires, Motul 600, some track pads along with more experience with the track, you'd be surprised at how much time you could unlock.

The PCA have well-run DE events in May and Oct. which are good events to get in on.

spectre · 06-15-2009, 06:12 AM

Is something goofy with your pdr?
Your braking g load is crazy high but your accell is really low.
Doesn't seem calibrated...

xtn · 06-15-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spectre

Is something goofy with your pdr?
Your braking g load is crazy high but your accell is really low.
Doesn't seem calibrated...

An Elise/Exige with decent spring rates, light and sticky wheel/tire package, and race pads will stop a lot harder than it can go.

spectre · 06-15-2009, 06:29 AM

Yeah, but the accel. seems really low..just thought it was odd. Maybe mine is not right. I see accel. spikes over .60 than as I go up gears it drops but even still its higher than most of what's on that video.

xtn · 06-15-2009, 07:11 AM

I could probably spike at .6 if I did a 7K rpm clutch drop from a standstill.

xtn

spectre · 06-15-2009, 07:21 AM

Second gear when moving already. Then goes down each gear. No clutch droppy.
I will re-calibrate and see if it's the same.

Chili Red · 06-15-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by spectre

Is something goofy with your pdr?
Your braking g load is crazy high but your accell is really low.
Doesn't seem calibrated...

Its correct, or at least it matches the data from my traqmate.

spectre · 06-15-2009, 07:54 AM

It could just be the track, gear your in, throttle input, etc.
It is different than what I see so its good compare or learn from.

Chili Red · 06-15-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by spectre

It could just be the track, gear your in, throttle input, etc.
It is different than what I see so its good compare or learn from.

It was also extremely hot so power was down a bit.

ocelotspot · 06-15-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili Red

Cars can always be tweaked, but in my case its mostly pushing the limits on corner entry on a extremely bumpy track with really stiff suspension.

Yes, quite a bit rougher from the video from texas. thanks again.

Doghouse · 06-15-2009, 08:59 PM

Sorry I could not join you guys on this one. Work can be such a pain in the a$$ sometimes.

Cool video and even cooler pictures.

Boiling brake fluid in a Lotus?

06-13-2009, 06:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chili Red Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 2,204	Some video from Hallett... Myself, LordZ and XTN made a trip up to Hallett on Thursday and had a blast. If you have not been to Hallett its worth the trip, even from Houston. This was my first time to Hallett and I only got 4 sessions before I boiled my brake fluid. With some more time I could be a bit faster. <object width="500" height="375"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=5142080&server=vimeo.com &show_title=0&show_byline=0&show_portr ait=0&color=00ADEF&fullscreen=1" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=5142080&server=vimeo.com &show_title=0&show_byline=0&show_portr ait=0&color=00ADEF&fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="500" height="375"></embed></object> Attached Images __________________ 2007 Exige S - Chili Red 2009 Mini Cooper S - Chili Red Gotham 265, Nitron Sport Pro, Moroso oil pan, RTVBrace, Volk CE28N/R888, Cup Wheels/A048, 2Bular Ultra 4", Rapfix II w/ Sparco P300, S111 CF Splitter, Ultradiscs, Pagid RS42, V-Force Harness Bar, Schroth PROFI II, Fire Extinguisher, Folding Tow Hook, Odyssey PC680, re-ENFORCER, LLumar 30% tint, Traqmate, DashDAQ, Chasecam, Alpine IVA-D100 w/ Backup Camera.

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eurosport Soylent Green is People! Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 127	You guys must have gone up for the test and tune day. Nice job getting around for your first time there! I've been around Hallett on 2 and 4 wheels and it's definitely a fun and technical track that's hard on brakes, several nice elevation changes. With a little more track time you'll find at least 5 more seconds to lose. Post up if you guys are heading up again, I'd like to come out and watch the fun. Don't forget the "HST (high speed touring)" days which are basically open track sessions held along with competition days. __________________ Eric H. '77 Esprit S1 '94 RX-7 R2 '00 RC51 ?? '10 (or maybe '11, or maybe hybrid) Esprit

06-15-2009, 06:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
spectre the designer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 767	Is something goofy with your pdr? Your braking g load is crazy high but your accell is really low. Doesn't seem calibrated... __________________ 2008 Exige S 240 For Sale: 2005 stock shifter console and change holder. PM if your interested.

06-15-2009, 06:29 AM	#13 (permalink)
spectre the designer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 767	Yeah, but the accel. seems really low..just thought it was odd. Maybe mine is not right. I see accel. spikes over .60 than as I go up gears it drops but even still its higher than most of what's on that video. __________________ 2008 Exige S 240 For Sale: 2005 stock shifter console and change holder. PM if your interested.

06-13-2009, 07:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
ocelotspot Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: carbondale,co Posts: 12	great video. It appears that you have to counter some oversteer in braking and acceleration? Is that more driver input or something that can be tweaked in the car? Noticed different wheels ft to rr. these your track tyres? DOT rubber? Have you gotten into set up much? If you have what have you done?A buddy of mine tests his spec racers there. Never seen the track... turns 7/8/9 look real rhythmic (ie fun) Gotta love the blind corners. Thanks for the entertainment.

06-13-2009, 07:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
LordZ 06 S280 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,306	Yup was a blast. Need to find a DE or something up there that has a two day event. One day just wasn't enough!

06-15-2009, 04:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
Alphonse Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 910 Images: 10	Sounds like you guys had fun. I told you you'd like it. Definitely a place to help strengthen ones pucker factor.

06-15-2009, 07:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 6,845	I could probably spike at .6 if I did a 7K rpm clutch drop from a standstill. xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

06-15-2009, 07:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
spectre the designer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 767	Second gear when moving already. Then goes down each gear. No clutch droppy. I will re-calibrate and see if it's the same. __________________ 2008 Exige S 240 For Sale: 2005 stock shifter console and change holder. PM if your interested.

06-15-2009, 07:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
spectre the designer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 767	It could just be the track, gear your in, throttle input, etc. It is different than what I see so its good compare or learn from. __________________ 2008 Exige S 240 For Sale: 2005 stock shifter console and change holder. PM if your interested.

06-15-2009, 08:59 PM	#20 (permalink)
Doghouse Undercover Miata Driver Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 438	Looks like fun.. Sorry I could not join you guys on this one. Work can be such a pain in the a$$ sometimes. Cool video and even cooler pictures. Boiling brake fluid in a Lotus? __________________ From the Doghouse >>>>>>>>>> 2007 Exige S - Arctic Silver w/ Black racing stripes (Long live the garage queen!) '99 'track rat' Miata - Jade green with black stripes. (Drive it till it drops, it's a Miata!)

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