2008 Club Racer - LotusTalk

EnvyMotors · 04-07-2009, 01:23 PM

Hola,

I have located a 2008 Club Racer with some minor issues. I was wondering what is a fair price.

Details:

12K Miles
Chipped Windshield = smaller than 1"
Radiator Leak
Chk Engine Light is On (Green)
1 small scratch on the Right Qtr panel

Thanks

Demonized · 04-07-2009, 01:33 PM

You don't state a price, but;

1 Get an ECU dump done.

2 Windshield replacement is over $1000.

3 Radiator leaking will require removal of front clam, several hours of labor, unless you do it yourself, have wonder what made it leak in the first place though.

4 Check engine light, see #1

EnvyMotors · 04-07-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonized

You don't state a price, but;

1 Get an ECU dump done.

2 Windshield replacement is over $1000.

3 Radiator leaking will require removal of front clam, several hours of labor, unless you do it yourself, have wonder what made it leak in the first place though.

4 Check engine light, see #1

He is asking 44,500 -

Demonized · 04-07-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitex

He is asking 44,500 -

Okay, get an ECU dump done on it, to check for over-revs, standing starts, etc...

fitfan · 04-07-2009, 02:53 PM

so some things would be warranty repairs - like a leaking radiator, unless there was something outstanding (like improper damage "repairs") clearly, windshield is not warranty....

take it by a dealer, get the ECU dumped, and the vin run... that does sounds like a compeling price, assuming nothing bad...

Scrumpot · 04-07-2009, 03:34 PM

Just my personal opinon, as a current CR owner. - Those issues on this car indicate - to me a lack of concern/on-going prudent care & maintenance has been practiced or performed on this car.

My Club Racer has 11,500 (so it is no "garage queen" either) on it, yet I would challenge anyone to be able to point out ANY defect of any kind on "my baby", that has gone uncorrected, and personally, I would be embarrassed to offer up, especially this category of vehicle, to anyone, in such condition!

Again - that is just me. Maybe I'm all wet, and the car has been otherwise cared for and maintained fully properly.

The windshield chip and small scratch I suppose could happen to anybody. But the fact that the radiator is leaking, uncorrected, and an UNEXPLAINED MIL is on, indicate again - just to me, either non-concern, or neglect.

I would proceed cautiously.

$44,500 is a lot of depreciation, in just one year!

Hope that is not typical / indicative of what I should comparatively expect!!

Allan Gibbs · 04-07-2009, 04:11 PM

How frequent are radiator leaks on the Elise/Exige? I'm not sure if that's a common problem. My wild guess is the radiator leak and chipped window happened around the same time.

EnvyMotors · 04-07-2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allan Gibbs

How frequent are radiator leaks on the Elise/Exige? I'm not sure if that's a common problem. My wild guess is the radiator leak and chipped window happened around the same time.

The chip in the windows looks like a pebble may have hit it

Allan Gibbs · 04-07-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitex

The chip in the windows looks like a pebble may have hit it

I was thinking a peddle may have did in the radiator too. Perhaps on a gravel road or road construction area?

antinym · 04-07-2009, 08:21 PM

Some insurance companies will fix windshield chips at no deductible to you. Because it's way cheaper than you asking to get it replaced.

EnvyMotors · 04-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antinym

Some insurance companies will fix windshield chips at no deductible to you. Because it's way cheaper than you asking to get it replaced.

It is the state law in FL if you car Comp. That was nice about Fl when I lived there, there is nothing like that in GA

Scrumpot · 04-08-2009, 07:05 AM

So, is this car at a dealership or other commercial-lot car reseller? Or is this a private sale? It sounds like you are unable for some reason to "interview" the owner, and just find some of these things out for some reason, directly? What is this car's history? Single owner? I guess I just don't understand why these things are to you (or would be accepted as) otherwise, a "mystery".

How was this car used? Is it modded heavilly? Used as a track beast? Way too many unanswered questions!! ...And that we, behind our keyboards on the internet - hello - just plain can NOT (possibly) answer for you!

If you can't get FACTUAL - rather than via uninvolved, disconnected 3rd-party "blind" internet users merely GUESSES as to what might be "up" with this car... well then.....

You are a lot closer to this than us! Why can't you just find out more directly, more precisely what this car's history and maintenance records (does it have maintenace records? - What dealership did it originally sell from, do you know?) are? Something is not right / smells a little fishy here.

That price is pretty deep discounted for sure! I would presume that would also be "for a reason". You need to find out what that reason is!

def · 04-09-2009, 02:19 PM

Leaking radiator isnt covered under warranty? Even if there is no visable damage (ie rock)

Greg P · 04-10-2009, 05:13 AM

If it's in Fla this car was offered on OVE (a manhiem online auction for dealers) a few weeks ago. I called about the car for a project for myself planing to sell my 240. On the first listing it was listed as engine inop??? I called the auction and was told that the car did run but there was a offer (if bid) on it and the rep would let me know if the sale fell through. I never did hear back so I assume you are dealing with the new buyer or the orig owner if the car didn't sell.
I still would be interested but not at those #'s

Greg

Rugbyduck · 04-10-2009, 07:25 AM

I'd say go for it anyway.

That's a pretty good price on a rare and beautiful car. Radiators are not that bad cost wise. Engine is a Toyota. Buy the car and give it the love it truly deserves and you'll be fine.

Bavarian Motorist · 04-10-2009, 07:51 AM

Without knowing the history of the car, that's an awful price. You can pay a little more (5-10k perhaps) and get a 240 with clean history.

chapster5 · 04-13-2009, 09:24 AM

Do it, go for it. Seems it needs saving from its owner and given some TLC

04-07-2009, 01:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
EnvyMotors Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 44	2008 Club Racer Hola, I have located a 2008 Club Racer with some minor issues. I was wondering what is a fair price. Details: 12K Miles Chipped Windshield = smaller than 1" Radiator Leak Chk Engine Light is On (Green) 1 small scratch on the Right Qtr panel Thanks

04-07-2009, 01:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Demonized NOT ßANNED! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,538	You don't state a price, but; 1 Get an ECU dump done. 2 Windshield replacement is over $1000. 3 Radiator leaking will require removal of front clam, several hours of labor, unless you do it yourself, have wonder what made it leak in the first place though. 4 Check engine light, see #1 __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Katana Supercharger, LSS Wheels, 2Bular exhaust & cat, rear panel delete, Cup Airbox, Volt / Oil temp gauge, Ohlins double adjustable coilovers, Dual Oil Coolers, S111 RTD Brace, Moroso Oil Pan, MicroMirror, S111 "V-Force" Harness bar, Manly Engine Mounts, Odyssey PC680 & RLS Bracket, Saikou Michi OCC, CF Scoops, CF Bootlid, CF Front Lip.

04-07-2009, 02:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
fitfan Regurgitated User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego! Posts: 4,083	so some things would be warranty repairs - like a leaking radiator, unless there was something outstanding (like improper damage "repairs") clearly, windshield is not warranty.... take it by a dealer, get the ECU dumped, and the vin run... that does sounds like a compeling price, assuming nothing bad... __________________ Driving it around!

04-07-2009, 03:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Scrumpot Live on the edge Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 757	Just my personal opinon, as a current CR owner. - Those issues on this car indicate - to me a lack of concern/on-going prudent care & maintenance has been practiced or performed on this car. My Club Racer has 11,500 (so it is no "garage queen" either) on it, yet I would challenge anyone to be able to point out ANY defect of any kind on "my baby", that has gone uncorrected, and personally, I would be embarrassed to offer up, especially this category of vehicle, to anyone, in such condition! Again - that is just me. Maybe I'm all wet, and the car has been otherwise cared for and maintained fully properly. The windshield chip and small scratch I suppose could happen to anybody. But the fact that the radiator is leaking, uncorrected, and an UNEXPLAINED MIL is on, indicate again - just to me, either non-concern, or neglect. I would proceed cautiously. $44,500 is a lot of depreciation, in just one year! Hope that is not typical / indicative of what I should comparatively expect!! __________________ '08 Exige-S Club Racer Desnorkelled, Stage-2, HID's, DRL Defeat, Sector111 Tow-hook & Fire Extinguisher, Deeply Fettled Roof S/C Air Intake, Schroth Prof II ASM 4pt Harnesses, RLS Lightweight gunmetal coated intercooler tubes, Saikou-Michi catch-cans, dual-SPAL hi-perf intercooler puller-fans, custom painted engine cover

04-07-2009, 04:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Allan Gibbs Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Glendale, CA (formerly Gilbert, AZ) Posts: 5,382	How frequent are radiator leaks on the Elise/Exige? I'm not sure if that's a common problem. My wild guess is the radiator leak and chipped window happened around the same time. __________________ 2005 BRP Elise- SOLD 6/9/07 2006 MV Agusta F4S - SOLD 4/30/09 2008 Audi TT (MKII) 2009 Audi A4 2009 Ducati 1198

04-07-2009, 08:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
antinym The Doombringer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 648	Some insurance companies will fix windshield chips at no deductible to you. Because it's way cheaper than you asking to get it replaced.

04-08-2009, 07:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
Scrumpot Live on the edge Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 757	So, is this car at a dealership or other commercial-lot car reseller? Or is this a private sale? It sounds like you are unable for some reason to "interview" the owner, and just find some of these things out for some reason, directly? What is this car's history? Single owner? I guess I just don't understand why these things are to you (or would be accepted as) otherwise, a "mystery". How was this car used? Is it modded heavilly? Used as a track beast? Way too many unanswered questions!! ...And that we, behind our keyboards on the internet - hello - just plain can NOT (possibly) answer for you! If you can't get FACTUAL - rather than via uninvolved, disconnected 3rd-party "blind" internet users merely GUESSES as to what might be "up" with this car... well then..... You are a lot closer to this than us! Why can't you just find out more directly, more precisely what this car's history and maintenance records (does it have maintenace records? - What dealership did it originally sell from, do you know?) are? Something is not right / smells a little fishy here. That price is pretty deep discounted for sure! I would presume that would also be "for a reason". You need to find out what that reason is! __________________ '08 Exige-S Club Racer Desnorkelled, Stage-2, HID's, DRL Defeat, Sector111 Tow-hook & Fire Extinguisher, Deeply Fettled Roof S/C Air Intake, Schroth Prof II ASM 4pt Harnesses, RLS Lightweight gunmetal coated intercooler tubes, Saikou-Michi catch-cans, dual-SPAL hi-perf intercooler puller-fans, custom painted engine cover

04-09-2009, 02:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
def ...ault Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 2,600	Leaking radiator isnt covered under warranty? Even if there is no visable damage (ie rock) __________________ //kevin - 05 Graphite Gray - Red Touring / LSS / Starshield / Stage 2 + more

04-10-2009, 05:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
Greg P Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 39	If it's in Fla this car was offered on OVE (a manhiem online auction for dealers) a few weeks ago. I called about the car for a project for myself planing to sell my 240. On the first listing it was listed as engine inop??? I called the auction and was told that the car did run but there was a offer (if bid) on it and the rep would let me know if the sale fell through. I never did hear back so I assume you are dealing with the new buyer or the orig owner if the car didn't sell. I still would be interested but not at those #'s Greg

04-10-2009, 07:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
Rugbyduck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 2,795	I'd say go for it anyway. That's a pretty good price on a rare and beautiful car. Radiators are not that bad cost wise. Engine is a Toyota. Buy the car and give it the love it truly deserves and you'll be fine. __________________ '06 Krypton Green Elise (touring/LSD/HT) '05 Magnetic Blue Elise (sport/HT) dedicated track car '07 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (4 door!) Excelsior-Henderson Super X/Ducati Monster 620 ie 3 Series BMW/Acura MDX Carver Yacht

04-10-2009, 07:51 AM	#16 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC/Westchester, NY Posts: 10,850	Without knowing the history of the car, that's an awful price. You can pay a little more (5-10k perhaps) and get a 240 with clean history. __________________ Be an alpha male. Drive a Lotus.

04-13-2009, 09:24 AM	#17 (permalink)
chapster5 Photochopper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 2,639 Images: 6	Do it, go for it. Seems it needs saving from its owner and given some TLC __________________ http://www.chuforiagraphics.com/ FOR ALL YOUR GRAPHICS NEEDS CONTACT KEITH ON: sweetdaddydelicious (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

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