Best in L.A. Auto Show -- Lotus 2-eleven - LotusTalk

Richard 350z · 11-20-2007, 06:32 AM

I went to the L.A. Auto Show last night. It was a pretty dull show, not as good a last year's. I can honestly say the Lotus 2-eleven track-only car was the Best In Show (defined by me as the car I would most like to own). The rest of my quick reveiw:

1st Runner-up: Nissan GT-R (this thing is a monster)

2nd Runner-up: Honda S2000 CR (they really got this one right)

Most Beautiful Car: Maserati Gran Turismo (but loses points for no manual gearbox available)

Biggest Disappointment: Lamborghini Reventon (an extra $1 million over the price of a "regular" Murcielago--for what???)

Ugliest Car: BMW 135i

Really Ugliest Car: Subaru STI (I predict Mistubishi is going to sell a lot of EVO X's).

maz · 11-20-2007, 08:58 AM

dUpE

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47136

The Stig · 11-20-2007, 03:23 PM

All wrong

Most beautiful car at the show is the Aston Martin DBS = Car porn!

Neil

LARRY · 11-20-2007, 03:37 PM

The most macho cool man's car I have ever sat in...Aston Martin DBS.

Seats? Unbeliveable.

The gear shift knob is the size of...well.....your, uh, forearm...

mopho · 11-20-2007, 04:03 PM

211 was neat, but nowhere near best in show. I think the Spykers win that category for being completely outrageous

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1st Runner-up: Nissan GT-R (this thing is a monster)

Better looking in person but not great and it appears to be a really big car (so I guess you can say it is a monster)

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2nd Runner-up: Honda S2000 CR (they really got this one right)

They had it right before, they just added some ugly bodywork to it to try and get a few more sales before they kill it

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Most Beautiful Car: Maserati Gran Turismo (but loses points for no manual gearbox available)

Aston Martin Vantage or DBS is more beautiful

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Biggest Disappointment: Lamborghini Reventon (an extra $1 million over the price of a "regular" Murcielago--for what???)

OK, agree with you here

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Ugliest Car: BMW 135i

indifferent to it so far

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Really Ugliest Car: Subaru STI (I predict Mistubishi is going to sell a lot of EVO X's).

I think it is pretty cool looking (in a Lancia Integrale sort of way) and it ain't bad to drive either (but perhaps too much money for it)

LARRY · 11-20-2007, 04:14 PM

Nissan GT-R looks like it has a Radio Shack store for an interior.

Only thing missing is a speedometer the size of the one in the new Mini Cooper.

ZJChaser · 11-20-2007, 04:17 PM

Aston DBS = sexiest
Lambo Reventon = also a dissappointment I dig the color but thats about it
STI and Evo = indifferent, no wow factor for me no yuck factor..time will tell
GTR = I somehow completey missed when I was there, oops, I will check it out when I go back.
S2000CR = I'm with Mopho here, YUCK!
BMW135i = MUCH like, I forsee that to be my next daily driver
Long wheel base Mini Cooper = most misproportioned
Chevy Corvette C6RS(I think that is what it was called) = very cool car, beast on the track but NOT worth the $250k price tag in the slightest.
...I will add my thoughts as I think of them.

peteinsd · 11-20-2007, 04:32 PM

my next daily driver might be the 135 so i definitely DIS agree with that one. BMW finally brought back the smaller car, kind of like the E30. Imagine an E30 M3 with 300+ hp turbo. its gonna be great!

Niel, i agree with you about the Aston 100%!!

Cali · 11-20-2007, 04:34 PM

I agree that the new STI is horrendous-looking! I don't know if I liked the rear spoiler on the new S2000 CR. The Spykers were very nice indeed!

luxige · 11-20-2007, 04:53 PM

The Spyker interiors are fun, but a little over the top for my taste. Beautiful bodywork.

Mark16q · 11-20-2007, 06:34 PM

it would have to be the lovely young lady at the go-kart track display downstairs. oh yeah.

mg

Cali · 11-20-2007, 06:46 PM

It's funny that the BMW 1 series is supposed to be their new lightweight car, but it weighs around 3400 pounds!

peteinsd · 12-01-2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali

It's funny that the BMW 1 series is supposed to be their new lightweight car, but it weighs around 3400 pounds!

lol, i know, it sucks. cars are getting heavier and heavier. my 95 M3 autox car wieghs 2700 pounds with half a tank.

i miss my Lotus sooooo much.

Exige here i come. i was going to get the S but with Sector111's new SC kit i'm just going to buy a used Exige and SC it.

cant wait!!!

and for bmw, 3400 is light now....wierd i know

Nikki · 12-11-2007, 03:31 PM

The Aston Martin DBS is definitely the class act of new cars in terms of a combintioan of sleek and classic styling and mechanicals. The Nissan GT-R is a typical Carlos Ghosn cost-cutting era gimmick. First, they screwed up the smooth flow of the fastback roofline by sticking a notch at the end. Nissan blah blah blah's this away by saying that it was an added touch to remain true to the original GT-R sedan. Second, this car needs all that horsepower because it weighs nearly two tons. Third, I sold my 2003 350Z Track Model (I was a sucker who pre-ordered based on my faith in the quality of pre-Carlos Ghosn era Nissans) to buy my 2007 Lotus Elise becaus the 350Z was a problem-ridden, poor quality, overweight pig. For those of you think British cars like Lotus have issues, experience a Carlos Ghosn era Nissan. Yes, the Elise eclipses the 350Z in price (but not too by much), but I like to travel light. Sorry for the verbose post, but I hope potential GT-R buyers will PM me before they pull the trigger on another Carlos Ghosn scam.

shay2nak · 12-11-2007, 10:09 PM

ugliest car is 2 way tie between evo x and gtr.

best in show...2-11

M3 sedan and STi were real nice.

11-20-2007, 06:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Richard 350z Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 245	Best in L.A. Auto Show -- Lotus 2-eleven I went to the L.A. Auto Show last night. It was a pretty dull show, not as good a last year's. I can honestly say the Lotus 2-eleven track-only car was the Best In Show (defined by me as the car I would most like to own). The rest of my quick reveiw: 1st Runner-up: Nissan GT-R (this thing is a monster) 2nd Runner-up: Honda S2000 CR (they really got this one right) Most Beautiful Car: Maserati Gran Turismo (but loses points for no manual gearbox available) Biggest Disappointment: Lamborghini Reventon (an extra $1 million over the price of a "regular" Murcielago--for what???) Ugliest Car: BMW 135i Really Ugliest Car: Subaru STI (I predict Mistubishi is going to sell a lot of EVO X's). __________________ Richard 1994 Mazda Miata - SCCA/NASA SM, ITA, PTE, E2 #94 2006 Mitsu EVO IX MR - bone stock daily driver 2004 Mitsu EVO VIII RS -- modified track day car 1987 Toyota Corrola FX -- cheap car with automatic for my daughter to learn to drive on

11-20-2007, 08:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
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11-20-2007, 03:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
The Stig Driving my Corolla : ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: who's asking? Posts: 4,253	All wrong Most beautiful car at the show is the Aston Martin DBS = Car porn! Neil __________________ WTF people?

11-20-2007, 03:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 17,161	The most macho cool man's car I have ever sat in...Aston Martin DBS. Seats? Unbeliveable. The gear shift knob is the size of...well.....your, uh, forearm... __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise. Stage II Exhaust. 2007 ProBax seats. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)

11-20-2007, 04:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 17,161	Nissan GT-R looks like it has a Radio Shack store for an interior. Only thing missing is a speedometer the size of the one in the new Mini Cooper. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise. Stage II Exhaust. 2007 ProBax seats. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T) Last edited by LARRY : 12-11-2007 at 04:12 PM.

11-20-2007, 04:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
ZJChaser Blue Wheel Pimp Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 2,851	Aston DBS = sexiest Lambo Reventon = also a dissappointment I dig the color but thats about it STI and Evo = indifferent, no wow factor for me no yuck factor..time will tell GTR = I somehow completey missed when I was there, oops, I will check it out when I go back. S2000CR = I'm with Mopho here, YUCK! BMW135i = MUCH like, I forsee that to be my next daily driver Long wheel base Mini Cooper = most misproportioned Chevy Corvette C6RS(I think that is what it was called) = very cool car, beast on the track but NOT worth the $250k price tag in the slightest. ...I will add my thoughts as I think of them. __________________ AJ - Akua Solutions - #128 Lotus Exige - JRZ Suspension - Innovative Mounts - Toyo Tires - TW Research Development

11-20-2007, 04:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
peteinsd peteinsd Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 136	my next daily driver might be the 135 so i definitely DIS agree with that one. BMW finally brought back the smaller car, kind of like the E30. Imagine an E30 M3 with 300+ hp turbo. its gonna be great! Niel, i agree with you about the Aston 100%!! __________________ Pete SCCA,BMWCCA,LOTUS 95 M3 Avus Blue-autox car SM,01 Maxima-work mul,06 Tundra Quad cab-tow car,94 Miata-toy car,05 CO Elise sport pack-SOLD

11-20-2007, 04:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cali Shish Kebab Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 804	I agree that the new STI is horrendous-looking! I don't know if I liked the rear spoiler on the new S2000 CR. The Spykers were very nice indeed! __________________ "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?" - George Carlin

11-20-2007, 04:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
luxige luxige Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: MA Posts: 1,187	The Spyker interiors are fun, but a little over the top for my taste. Beautiful bodywork.

11-20-2007, 06:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mark16q 2 seats max Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Agoura Hills, CA Posts: 463	it would have to be the lovely young lady at the go-kart track display downstairs. oh yeah. mg __________________ '95 Miata M Edition. '05 Arctic Silver..Nitrons, Arqray Twin Muffler, SectorIII bar, carbon console and shift knob, Schroth harnesses, GUT spoiler, tie rod reinforcement, and lots more....Sold

11-20-2007, 06:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cali Shish Kebab Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 804	It's funny that the BMW 1 series is supposed to be their new lightweight car, but it weighs around 3400 pounds! __________________ "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?" - George Carlin

12-11-2007, 03:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
Nikki Nikki Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 249	The Aston Martin DBS is definitely the class act of new cars in terms of a combintioan of sleek and classic styling and mechanicals. The Nissan GT-R is a typical Carlos Ghosn cost-cutting era gimmick. First, they screwed up the smooth flow of the fastback roofline by sticking a notch at the end. Nissan blah blah blah's this away by saying that it was an added touch to remain true to the original GT-R sedan. Second, this car needs all that horsepower because it weighs nearly two tons. Third, I sold my 2003 350Z Track Model (I was a sucker who pre-ordered based on my faith in the quality of pre-Carlos Ghosn era Nissans) to buy my 2007 Lotus Elise becaus the 350Z was a problem-ridden, poor quality, overweight pig. For those of you think British cars like Lotus have issues, experience a Carlos Ghosn era Nissan. Yes, the Elise eclipses the 350Z in price (but not too by much), but I like to travel light. Sorry for the verbose post, but I hope potential GT-R buyers will PM me before they pull the trigger on another Carlos Ghosn scam. Last edited by Nikki : 12-11-2007 at 03:44 PM.

12-11-2007, 10:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
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