Official la auto show thread - Page 2 - LotusTalk

lc_09 · 11-12-2007, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormy320

Ugghhh - is it open to the public Thursday night?

yes and no... the cost of going on thursday night is $125 or $250

http://www.laautoshow.com/2007/Gener...8/Default.aspx

so, if the "public" wants to pay that amount instead of the regular $10 admission fee...than it is open to the public.

mopho · 11-12-2007, 10:21 AM

Will probably be there on one of the press days, most likely Wed.

esoteric · 11-13-2007, 09:52 PM

Here's the specs on the brochure:

Exige S 240
0-60 mph in 4.0sec
0-100mph in 9.9 sec
max speed 150mph
max power 240hp at 8000rpm
max torque 170lb/ft at 5500rpm
MPG 23 city, 29 hwy
weight 2077lbs

Elise SC
0-60 mph in 4.4sec
0-100mph in 10.7 sec
max speed 150mph
max power 218hp at 8000rpm
weight est 2000lb

Elise California
0-60 mph in 4.9sec
0-100mph in 12.9 sec
max speed 150mph
max power 190hp at 7800rpm
max torque 134lb/ft at 6800rpm
MPG 24 city, 29 hwy
weight 1984lbs

Randy Chase · 11-13-2007, 09:52 PM

Thanks Esoteric. I will be there then.

Randy Chase · 11-15-2007, 11:49 PM

Good show. I took a number of pics. Including the new single key solution.

Roger gave the media the presentation and we had the luck to be able to have a long chat with Roger later in the day, and also with some others including Arnie. The main thing I took away from those discussions was the impression that Lotus is back on track to what they do well. That was very good to hear.

Specific data points.

New SC Elise. 220 crank hp. Uses the new smaller blower mated to an integral intake manifold. Very light, only adds a bit over 8 kilos.

Exige will change over to this same blower, and drop the intercooler. Except the 240hp version.

Lotus will release a supercharger upgrade kit at some point.

2008 federal cars have tire pressure sensors. You can see a larger valve stem.

Eagle is one the way. Parts are now in production and things are going very well. Expect a product rollout towards the end of 2008 in certain countries and then release to the US market in late spring of 2009.

Esprit is following on the heals, perhaps 2 years later. It will use the same platform as the Eagle, but it may be slightly wider.

Eagle uses a new platform and forged aluminum suspension bits. The Eagle will be a 2+2 and then a 2+0 sedan. There will variants and upgrades released each year over a 6 year period at which time, there will be a new model to replace it. It will use a V6 from a well known manufacturer.

The pictures of the Eagle being shown around the internet are not accurate. Same with the Esprit mostly.

The 2-Eleven will not be coming over as a street legal version though Lotus wanted to. They just can't based on federal regulations.

def · 11-16-2007, 12:01 AM

Great info randy... glad to hear we will see eagle info sooner than later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Lotus will release a supercharger upgrade kit at some point.

This one probably affects us most... some were hoping for it

loanshark · 11-16-2007, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Lotus will release a supercharger upgrade kit at some point.

Great! Waiting for this. Any ideas when?

Looking forward to seeing you today, and checking out some pics.

ms355 · 11-16-2007, 08:43 AM

Randy, is a '2+0 sedan' really what I'm thinking it would be?

Randy Chase · 11-16-2007, 09:08 AM

Michael, I believe those were the words Roger used. I had heard rumors previously of a 2+2 hardtop car and a two seater version where the roof gets stowed where the rear passenger seating was... so who knows?

Randy Chase · 11-16-2007, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loanshark

Great! Waiting for this. Any ideas when?

Well, this is Lotus. Some things they do quickly, others... not so much. They did not mention a price or date. Just that they would offer it.

Randy Chase · 11-16-2007, 09:16 AM

From a design studio, in case you have not seen it.

Randy Chase · 11-16-2007, 09:17 AM

Not bad looking and certainly better than the separate fob.

loanshark · 11-16-2007, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Well, this is Lotus. Some things they do quickly, others... not so much. They did not mention a price or date. Just that they would offer it.

hmmm ok...........I sent you a PM for address.........

loanshark · 11-16-2007, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Chase

Not bad looking and certainly better than the separate fob.

Will the 2008 key work with earlier models?

Randy Chase · 11-16-2007, 09:23 AM

Sorry for the blurry pic. This is the new 2008+ valvestems that include the air pressure sensor. There is a small box in the rear that reads the values and supplies data to the ECU which sends it via the CANBUS to the dash.

I am just trying to give you pics that other people maybe did not.

Randy Chase · 11-16-2007, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loanshark

Will the 2008 key work with earlier models?

No, it is a different system. Earlier models want to use the Unikey from Blackwatch.

Brian Skeoch · 11-16-2007, 09:26 AM

Randy, are you referring to Roger Becker ? who is Roger ?

Randy Chase · 11-16-2007, 09:32 AM

Sorry Brian. Yes, Roger Becker. He was the one giving the press talk and Robert P and I met up with him later. He was very candid and it was refreshing to talk with someone that, IMO, was not worried about PR and the company line. In fact, he told the crowd that he was given a written script to use, but it remained folded up and he made up his own speech.

When we chatted with him, he talked a bit about the history of the company and the future of it. I will not say everything he said, but as I mentioned earlier, the future seems a lot brighter to me now than it did. I am very pleased with the focus and direction I heard.

Randy Chase · 11-16-2007, 09:38 AM

Some ClubRacer pics.

The Hethel track decal on the rear of the car is also done in stitching on the inside of the doors. I think it is a nice touch.

Brian Skeoch · 11-16-2007, 10:07 AM

that sounds like Roger.

11-12-2007, 10:21 AM	#22 (permalink)
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11-13-2007, 09:52 PM	#23 (permalink)
esoteric Turns corners & heads EZ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,651	Lotus presentation Thursday 2:20pm Here's the specs on the brochure: Exige S 240 0-60 mph in 4.0sec 0-100mph in 9.9 sec max speed 150mph max power 240hp at 8000rpm max torque 170lb/ft at 5500rpm MPG 23 city, 29 hwy weight 2077lbs Elise SC 0-60 mph in 4.4sec 0-100mph in 10.7 sec max speed 150mph max power 218hp at 8000rpm weight est 2000lb Elise California 0-60 mph in 4.9sec 0-100mph in 12.9 sec max speed 150mph max power 190hp at 7800rpm max torque 134lb/ft at 6800rpm MPG 24 city, 29 hwy weight 1984lbs __________________ Daily driven '05 Elise, Seibon CF front clam with custom paint, Stage II exhaust, hardtop, Starshield, Pioneer ICE, dry CF door sills & panels, dry CF binnacle, color matched center console and surround, Sachs suspension, Moroso oil pan, EBC greenstuff brakes, Team Dynamic wheels w/ R888's I don't believe in shooting stars but I do believe in loot & cars. PhlypSide quote - Tell people you prefer your cars to be like your women: "lightweight, fast, low maintenance, and easy on the eyes." Last edited by esoteric : 11-16-2007 at 10:18 PM. Reason: replaced w/ specs

11-13-2007, 09:52 PM	#24 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	Thanks Esoteric. I will be there then. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-15-2007, 11:49 PM	#25 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	Good show. I took a number of pics. Including the new single key solution. Roger gave the media the presentation and we had the luck to be able to have a long chat with Roger later in the day, and also with some others including Arnie. The main thing I took away from those discussions was the impression that Lotus is back on track to what they do well. That was very good to hear. Specific data points. New SC Elise. 220 crank hp. Uses the new smaller blower mated to an integral intake manifold. Very light, only adds a bit over 8 kilos. Exige will change over to this same blower, and drop the intercooler. Except the 240hp version. Lotus will release a supercharger upgrade kit at some point. 2008 federal cars have tire pressure sensors. You can see a larger valve stem. Eagle is one the way. Parts are now in production and things are going very well. Expect a product rollout towards the end of 2008 in certain countries and then release to the US market in late spring of 2009. Esprit is following on the heals, perhaps 2 years later. It will use the same platform as the Eagle, but it may be slightly wider. Eagle uses a new platform and forged aluminum suspension bits. The Eagle will be a 2+2 and then a 2+0 sedan. There will variants and upgrades released each year over a 6 year period at which time, there will be a new model to replace it. It will use a V6 from a well known manufacturer. The pictures of the Eagle being shown around the internet are not accurate. Same with the Esprit mostly. The 2-Eleven will not be coming over as a street legal version though Lotus wanted to. They just can't based on federal regulations. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-16-2007, 08:43 AM	#28 (permalink)
ms355 Alfa User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 2,143	Randy, is a '2+0 sedan' really what I'm thinking it would be? __________________ Michael Elisetalk Trip to UK 2007

11-16-2007, 09:08 AM	#29 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	Michael, I believe those were the words Roger used. I had heard rumors previously of a 2+2 hardtop car and a two seater version where the roof gets stowed where the rear passenger seating was... so who knows? __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-16-2007, 09:16 AM	#31 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	The Lotus Excel From a design studio, in case you have not seen it. Attached Images __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-16-2007, 09:17 AM	#32 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	The new key for 2008 Not bad looking and certainly better than the separate fob. Attached Images __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-16-2007, 09:23 AM	#35 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	Sorry for the blurry pic. This is the new 2008+ valvestems that include the air pressure sensor. There is a small box in the rear that reads the values and supplies data to the ECU which sends it via the CANBUS to the dash. I am just trying to give you pics that other people maybe did not. Attached Images __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-16-2007, 09:26 AM	#37 (permalink)
Brian Skeoch Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 207	Randy, are you referring to Roger Becker ? who is Roger ? __________________ Brian Skeoch Esprit Turbo

11-16-2007, 09:32 AM	#38 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	Sorry Brian. Yes, Roger Becker. He was the one giving the press talk and Robert P and I met up with him later. He was very candid and it was refreshing to talk with someone that, IMO, was not worried about PR and the company line. In fact, he told the crowd that he was given a written script to use, but it remained folded up and he made up his own speech. When we chatted with him, he talked a bit about the history of the company and the future of it. I will not say everything he said, but as I mentioned earlier, the future seems a lot brighter to me now than it did. I am very pleased with the focus and direction I heard. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-16-2007, 09:38 AM	#39 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	Some ClubRacer pics. The Hethel track decal on the rear of the car is also done in stitching on the inside of the doors. I think it is a nice touch. Attached Images __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

11-16-2007, 10:07 AM	#40 (permalink)
Brian Skeoch Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 207	that sounds like Roger. __________________ Brian Skeoch Esprit Turbo

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