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Lurking Deviant Lunatic
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Armrest, MA
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Injected Europa ???
Have been digging around and learned that someone has already sucessfully converted a Europa to EFI. Anyone know the name of the person or possibly even have contact info?
Found out that the heads with the blocked off injector poerts are a smaller intake valve head, so I am back to step one again and would really appreciate some help with this idea. Thanks much
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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New Europa, Old Europa.....which engine ?? I took the FI OFF of my Zetec and went to Weber 45 DCOE's for more torque and nostalgic looks.
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C'mon, somebody help the guy out!!! Someone has to remember who had the burgundy twin cam Europa converted to injectors at the Aspen LOG He was offering to sell/perform the conversion on other Twin Cams. I can't seem to find anyone who remembers his name....Dave
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Plain ol' Lotus-nut
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Nor Cal
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The original FI system for the Twink was the Tecalemit-Jackson, a mechanical system that bolted to the intake manifold (Weber head).
Now there are both throttle body for both the Weber and Stromberg heads as well as others that require the original intake manifold to be removed, some machine work to the head and a new FI system bolted on. 2 UK sources - JS Motorsport QED Motorsport Cheers, Kiyoshi
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I recall one of the California parts suppliers was involved with fuel injection on the twincams. Try Dave Bean Dave Bean Engineering, Inc. The Official Vintage Lotus Car Parts Distributor and JAE JAE - Vintage and late model Lotus car parts specialists
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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I have a TC Special (Stromberg head) that I put a Bosch CIS system on back in the early 80's. I am now modifying it for a MegaSquirt EFI. The parts are all mostly done and I expect to have it on the road in the spring. I would be happy to share details.
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Lurking Deviant Lunatic
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Armrest, MA
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kestral74 - looking into MegaSquirtinto a Europas (Have been looking at the Zetec and Duratec engines as well... tryng to trace the family tree so to speak.
dwkoski - thanks was a good idea to just post the question in here - the answer arrived. Khamai & DeanG - thanks much for the resources and info. Old and Busted That's exactly where I am headed, Megasquirt. Actually though about the non vacume CIS-E system I have laying around and figured out it would be more work with no added benefit over MS. Any images you have of the area around the injector ports would be great. Want to do this into a big valve head and pretty much direct port injection similar to Digifant. Found a local race shop with vintage exotic experience that can get the ports in for me one way or another.
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I will try to take some pictures of it later today or tonight as I plan to be working on the Seven later on. I see that you are in MA. I am in Duxbury. You are free to come by and visit. Send me a PM and I will give you my phone number and email addy.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Here is a link to an Elan board, concerning F.I.
Fuel injection again..... with cross links to technical aeticles, ect. regards, steve |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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I took some pics of the project so far. The fuel hoses will be replaced with hard lines. The fuel pump is from the CIS installation. The MegaSquirt will also be handling spark function so there will be no distributor. It will be 2 coil wasted spark. I will be using braided flex line to go to the injectors instead of a fuel rail because of the funky angles I ended up with for the injector bungs.
Be happy to answer any questions and I will add pics as I make progress. 74-4525R |
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: carbondale,co
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I may be off the mark. Do you want to make the throttle bodies yourself? I made the conversion a few years back. Not too difficult with off the shelf bits. I recently sold the motor and system to a 23 guy in florida. (ad used to be in Race-cars.com) I had a stromberg head sent it to dave bean to have the stromberg runners cut off and webber ones bolted up. I then bought the webber style 2900 series throttle bodies from TWM, bolted them up where the 40 DCOE would go. I then bought the electromotive TEC II (showing how long ago) fuel management. Bought a wide band o2 sensor and started tuning. I did modify the tanks for the fuel return. The car never got finished... In the garage, out of the garage, in,out,in,out, back in and now I am actually contemplating a Hyabusa conversion. A fool and his money...
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Quote:
These are what you're talking about. They tend to be more advantageous than webers because they stabilize the mid range even with the use of highly aggressive cam profiles, fuel mixing and intake velocity has less turbulence than butterfly type venturi and they resist mixture changes in load variances and cornering G's. Furthermore, they're probably the only thing better sounding than webers IMO. You'll want the 41mm versions but they'll only be worthwhile if you have headwork and agressive cams. Last edited by GeoffW : 04-21-2009 at 09:05 PM. |
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