Mmmm, Eleven - Page 2 - LotusTalk

mopho · 03-19-2009, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shay2nak

You must be the guy I keep running into during my Sunday drives. I think I saw you a couple weeks ago on Decker, the section that leads before the canyon (at the base). You were going towards Westlake.

No, it is a different car, propracer keeps his Eleven in Arizona.
The owner of the Eleven you saw occasionally shows up at our sunday drives and Taco Tuesday

propracer · 03-19-2009, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shay2nak

You must be the guy I keep running into during my Sunday drives. I think I saw you a couple weeks ago on Decker, the section that leads before the canyon (at the base). You were going towards Westlake.

No, not me. But there is a similar one to mine in Westlake Village. I believe that is a two-seater though.
My car is in Northern AZ, since the CA DMV apparently has a problem with open exhaust, no blinkers, Dunlop racing tires, no speedo, no horn.

In addition, my stage 4 race motor does not like sitting at traffic lights for extended periods of time. Race gearbox with long 1st gear also implies that you do not want to stop and go a lot.
At my house in AZ, I have one traffic light to get to curvy mountain roads that seem to go on forever.

propracer · 03-19-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphonse

Oh hell, just color mr green, (naturally), with envy.
I don't think it would take much to trade my street Loti for a nice 11.

Enjoy your ride!

I know of a very nice two seater left hand drive 11, BRG with red interior, for sale in your area. If interested, PM me.

teflonc · 03-19-2009, 12:30 PM

I met this gentleman at The Queens English the other weekend, was difficult to hear him but I believe he said this was an original Westfield, 129:135

propracer · 03-19-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teflonc

I met this gentleman at The Queens English the other weekend, was difficult to hear him but I believe he said this was an original Westfield, 129:135

Now compare this car to the corkscrew pic at thread start. Not one left hand drive 11 in sight...

BUELL XB12R · 03-19-2009, 12:55 PM

I went to Barber Motorsports museum and they have 2 of these (the ones on Victory by Design). I think they are way sexier in real life than in pics.
I could not stop staring at them.

teflonc · 03-19-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propracer

Now compare this car to the corkscrew pic at thread start. Not one left hand drive 11 in sight...

Duh and even as a Brit I missed that

probably totally misquoted the gentleman too...was definitely something about 129 out of 135.

mopho · 03-19-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teflonc

I met this gentleman at The Queens English the other weekend, was difficult to hear him but I believe he said this was an original Westfield, 129:135

It is Jan Morgan's car (the one I mentioned earlier), it is an Early Westfield Replica (from the 70's I believe). iirc Westfield built them for a couple of years, but then stopped until the mid to late 90's

propracer · 03-19-2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teflonc

Duh and even as a Brit I missed that

probably totally misquoted the gentleman too...was definitely something about 129 out of 135.

No, you were right. The car in your pic is a Westfield 11. And the production number is very close too.
Not too many Lotus 11's were made as left hand drive. The RHD Westfields that are done right, with 15" wire wheels and/or wobbly webbs, Smiths chronometric tach, imitation body rivets, are very hard to distinguish from the original even close up.

But LHD 11's are way cool of course. To me, BRG, RHD just adds more "vintage mystique" to it...as in undeniably "Made In England"!

(I guess now I need to stand up and start playing the british national anthem...

)

teflonc · 03-19-2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopho

It is Jan Morgan's car (the one I mentioned earlier), it is an Early Westfield Replica (from the 70's I believe). iirc Westfield built them for a couple of years, but then stopped until the mid to late 90's

Thx for clarifying mopho...would hate to misquote!

mopho · 03-19-2009, 01:49 PM

Luc, your car is a Westfield too, correct?

LarryB · 03-19-2009, 01:51 PM

Judging by the blue curbing and fresh pavement. That is a very recent photo, from Laguna. Would assume it's from the Historic races. Several of them look very familiar. Based on a few old pic., I'd guess 2007. You get to check them out on course and up close and personal in the paddock.

propracer · 03-19-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopho

Luc, your car is a Westfield too, correct?

shhhht.

mopho · 03-19-2009, 02:01 PM

shay2nak · 03-19-2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopho

No, it is a different car, propracer keeps his Eleven in Arizona.
The owner of the Eleven you saw occasionally shows up at our sunday drives and Taco Tuesday

oh

Quote:

Originally Posted by propracer

No, not me. But there is a similar one to mine in Westlake Village. I believe that is a two-seater though.
My car is in Northern AZ, since the CA DMV apparently has a problem with open exhaust, no blinkers, Dunlop racing tires, no speedo, no horn.

In addition, my stage 4 race motor does not like sitting at traffic lights for extended periods of time. Race gearbox with long 1st gear also implies that you do not want to stop and go a lot.
At my house in AZ, I have one traffic light to get to curvy mountain roads that seem to go on forever.

You don't really need those things, so what's the problem?

propracer · 03-19-2009, 08:40 PM

shay2nak,
you are in the correct frame of mind. Back a few moons ago, one could register anything "fun" here in CA...That no longer is the case unless one wants to spend December 31st waiting in front of the door at the local DMV to be the first on opening day to get one of those waivers....Sorry, I've got parties to attend ..

So, Northern AZ it is, no smog, no questions that can't be answered with a "James Bond" smile...it's kind a like the good ol' days at the track: Run what you brung!!! Gotta love it. In my opinion cars don't need speedometers,..those just scare passengers. Give me a tach with red line marked, oil pressure gauge (water temp. required on stuff "Made in England") and please indicate kill switch and fire extinguisher location..and I'm off. Blinkers are for people behind you (..anybody there??) and open exhaust takes care of any horn necessity (fingers are optional).
Here's my motto: You would not own a Lotus if you wanted to play by the rules...Colin Chapman never did!!

mopho · 03-19-2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propracer

shay2nak,
you are in the correct frame of mind. Back a few moons ago, one could register anything "fun" here in CA...That no longer is the case unless one wants to spend December 31st waiting in front of the door at the local DMV to be the first on opening day to get one of those waivers....Sorry, I've got parties to attend ..

Actually, it's January 2nd, plenty of time to recover from the parties

propracer · 03-19-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopho

Actually, it's January 2nd, plenty of time to recover from the parties

I am originally from the 2nd largest beer drinker nation in the world and we DO NOT stop partying just because it is January 2nd.

.
MIA for at least a week.
(Mopho, gotta get some shots with your and your dad's cars and my line up once you're are visiting...) I just picked up an 03 Esprit to do the distance (LA-PRC) without backaches..and at speed!!

mopho · 03-19-2009, 09:32 PM

You assume the party wasn't at the DMV camp out

Ooh, want a ride in the Esprit, never been in one.

BTW, give my dad a shout, he's been wondering where you went

BUELL XB12R · 03-22-2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopho

That is such a good show. Does Fifth Gear air in America? I think it use to.

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03-19-2009, 08:40 PM	#36 (permalink)
propracer Not allowed outside Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 71	shay2nak, you are in the correct frame of mind. Back a few moons ago, one could register anything "fun" here in CA...That no longer is the case unless one wants to spend December 31st waiting in front of the door at the local DMV to be the first on opening day to get one of those waivers....Sorry, I've got parties to attend .. So, Northern AZ it is, no smog, no questions that can't be answered with a "James Bond" smile...it's kind a like the good ol' days at the track: Run what you brung!!! Gotta love it. In my opinion cars don't need speedometers,..those just scare passengers. Give me a tach with red line marked, oil pressure gauge (water temp. required on stuff "Made in England") and please indicate kill switch and fire extinguisher location..and I'm off. Blinkers are for people behind you (..anybody there??) and open exhaust takes care of any horn necessity (fingers are optional). Here's my motto: You would not own a Lotus if you wanted to play by the rules...Colin Chapman never did!! __________________ I have ADD: Automotive Diversity Disorder:

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