Grattan ( MI ) Backwards... - LotusTalk

kestrel74 · 02-04-2008, 01:24 PM

Just found this ......couldn't imagine running it backwards !! ( especially turn 3 ! )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wHz57AHEaM

Conan · 02-04-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kestrel74

Just found this ......couldn't imagine running it backwards !! ( especially turn 3 ! )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wHz57AHEaM

That would be awesome! That track is so much fun going clockwise. That looks like it's even more fun in the other direction.

Jason R · 02-05-2008, 10:23 AM

I've done it. It's a riot. That's the direction the motorcycles run at Grattan, and you can probably find some motorcycle footage on youtube too.

Running it backwards is a pretty rare opportunity. The only times I have seen it done is during an advanced driving day or instructor day prior to a DE.

esthi · 02-18-2008, 07:49 AM

Thanks for posting the video. Is it just me, or does it look easier in reverse? Certainly slower...

Conan · 02-18-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by esthi

Thanks for posting the video. Is it just me, or does it look easier in reverse? Certainly slower...

I think it's because most of the corners are no longer blind. Going clockwise, it's a scary track because most corners are blind.

chrisp993 · 02-18-2008, 08:08 AM

I ran it backwards at the same time as Jason - the same event as the YouTube video!

It's actually scarier than running it forwards, with Turns #1, #2, #3, #9, #10 and #11 all being blind and often decreasing radius on exit.

The most gut-clenching part is after what becomes the right hand at the end of the main straight into a left hand downhill - normally Turn 11 - the first left hand turn as the cars leave the pits in the YouTube vide. The entrance to this downhill is completely blind, tighter than you expect and potentially very fast

Hence we ran it with the chicane at the end of the straight.

No denying how much fun it was though

Also, for those who like Grattan, running backwards provides a lot of insight into the nature of its turns and ups / downs. Whole other perspective.

sonnythebull · 02-18-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kestrel74

Just found this ......couldn't imagine running it backwards !! ( especially turn 3 ! )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wHz57AHEaM

on bikes we run it both ways. no big deal

ervsch · 02-18-2008, 12:55 PM

Yeow!

Great track going clockwise - it'd be a blast trying it counter-clockwise! I'd have to reverse all my bad habits...

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Jason R Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S.E. Michigan Posts: 104	I've done it. It's a riot. That's the direction the motorcycles run at Grattan, and you can probably find some motorcycle footage on youtube too. Running it backwards is a pretty rare opportunity. The only times I have seen it done is during an advanced driving day or instructor day prior to a DE. __________________ 2006 Arctic Silver Exige Nitron Track, Accusump, Pagid Blacks and sticky tires

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esthi ^^ I wish! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 140	Thanks for posting the video. Is it just me, or does it look easier in reverse? Certainly slower... __________________ '05 SY Elise LSS/Touring/HT/Quicksilver, '03 Audi A4 1.8Tqm Avant, '95 Porsche 993 C2

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ervsch Late apex, don't lift! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago-area Posts: 857 Images: 8	Yeow! Great track going clockwise - it'd be a blast trying it counter-clockwise! I'd have to reverse all my bad habits... __________________ Erv Schweiger '05 Ardent Red, Touring Package, Starshield, Schroth Harnesses, 4Tress Harness Bar, Boomerang Rear Tow Hook, Porterfield R4 Brake Pads, More Mods to come...

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02-18-2008, 08:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
chrisp993 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI Posts: 334	I ran it backwards at the same time as Jason - the same event as the YouTube video! It's actually scarier than running it forwards, with Turns #1, #2, #3, #9, #10 and #11 all being blind and often decreasing radius on exit. The most gut-clenching part is after what becomes the right hand at the end of the main straight into a left hand downhill - normally Turn 11 - the first left hand turn as the cars leave the pits in the YouTube vide. The entrance to this downhill is completely blind, tighter than you expect and potentially very fast Hence we ran it with the chicane at the end of the straight. No denying how much fun it was though Also, for those who like Grattan, running backwards provides a lot of insight into the nature of its turns and ups / downs. Whole other perspective.

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