My alarm situation - help pls?! - LotusTalk

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 02:01 PM

ok, I dont have too much time to search here because my alarm is going off periodically! as u can guess I'm NOT popular with the neighbors! HELP please:

background is that the alarm ran the battery down. I hooked up the battery tender and about 45 minutes later, enough juice got in so that the telltale alarm light was flashing like normal. I clicked the A button on the remote, but the car wouldnt unlock. Now the alarm is going off again! brb... anyone pls....

(Edit) back now... so even though I can put the key in the ignition and turn the ignition, i cant start the car of course bc of the alarm. The power windows go and up down slowly so there's not much juice. I checked the light on the fob and when u push it in, it flickers red so that has enough juice right? what the hell do i do?

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 02:13 PM

and i tried the "reset" idea, where you hold both fob buttons down for 10 seconds and then the large button... that did nothing.

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 02:18 PM

and i tried using the CDL button to unlock the doors... that doesnt do anything either

tesprit · 07-31-2009, 02:48 PM

If you only have the battery on a tender, do not attempt to do anything with the alarm for at least a day. A nearly dead battery will take a few days to completely charge using a tender and if it was deeply discharged, it may not ever recharge using a tender. Your best bet is to get a standard battery charger to fully charge the battery and once it is fully charged, then try to turn off the alarm and immobilizer. The set alarm does not like low voltage and can perceive this as an attempt by someone to steal the car by tampering with the battery. Once full voltage is restored, the alarm should respond to your alarm fob again or at least to a reprogramming/resync. Remember, tenders are only for maintaining a battery and not for recharging a dead battery..

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 02:50 PM

welll i've gone thru most of LT looking for a solution...

Viper if u're here, do u think i need to disconnect the battery? i dont know why that'd help but I'm up for anything. I really dont want the alarm going off anymore (there's a very old neighbor next door) THANKS

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 02:52 PM

thanks, i forgot to mention that i attached my other car up with jumper cables (knowing that the tender wouldnt get her done soon). but the alarm kept sounding so I unattached it... see my problem?

thanks

tesprit · 07-31-2009, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuggles1

welll i've gone thru most of LT looking for a solution...

Viper if u're here, do u think i need to disconnect the battery? i dont know why that'd help but I'm up for anything. I really dont want the alarm going off anymore (there's a very old neighbor next door) THANKS

If you can run jumper cables from another car to your battery, this would give you enough voltage to shut off the alarm. Once you have the alarm off, remove the jumper cables and then the negative battery cable from the weak battery until you can get it charged up again. As long as the alarm is armed and connected to that weak battery the backup battery for the alarm will continue to sound the siren. Just pulling a battery cable without shutting off the alarm will not change your present situation.

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 03:05 PM

right..."shut off the alarm"... i must be dumber than i thought, but HOW DO I shut off the alarm? this is why I started this thread... like i said the fob isnt doing anything even tho the red lite is on.

TheViper · 07-31-2009, 03:14 PM

The car battery is too low and switching over to the alarm back-up battery. As Tesprit says, you need a proper battery charger to bring the battery up to full charge. An alternative is to jump start it and take a substantial drive to recharge it. If you disconnect the battery, after a few alarm cycles it will not sound anymore. Use some jumper cables to apply 12V then turn off the alarm.
Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuggles1

welll i've gone thru most of LT looking for a solution...

Viper if u're here, do u think i need to disconnect the battery? i dont know why that'd help but I'm up for anything. I really dont want the alarm going off anymore (there's a very old neighbor next door) THANKS

tesprit · 07-31-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuggles1

right..."shut off the alarm"... i must be dumber than i thought, but HOW DO I shut off the alarm? this is why I started this thread... like i said the fob isnt doing anything even tho the red lite is on.

You need to access the battery and restore full voltage to the car even if the alarm is still blaring. You then need to shut off the alarm by using the remote, but if that no longer works, you will have to resync. your fob or use the manual method of entering your alarm PIN using the ignition key to turn off the alarm. Right now the alarm thinks someone is stealing your car (low voltage and a door has been opened with the alarm still armed) and it won't stop until you get full voltage restored and the alarm off. Is there anyone there that can jump your battery to a fully charged one or has a start pack that you can attach to your weak battery?

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 03:16 PM

jump start it? how? the car is not responding to the fob...therefore even tho I put the key in the ignition and turn it, the immobilizer disallows it from starting!

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 03:19 PM

ok so if i understand, i should allow the alarm to periodically sound while i pump more voltage into the battery from my other car? eventully it gets enuff power to respond to the fob?

tesprit · 07-31-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuggles1

ok so if i understand, i should allow the alarm to periodically sound while i pump more voltage into the battery from my other car? eventully it gets enuff power to respond to the fob?

Yes, that is correct and in the best case scenario, your fob should work again without having to do anything else.

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 03:26 PM

i wonder if i messed it up by resetting it so many times...this is beyond frustrating. i got 2+ hours into this. more time than i spend driving the car in a week.

tesprit · 07-31-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuggles1

i wonder if i messed it up by resetting it so many times...this is beyond frustrating. i got 2+ hours into this. more time than i spend driving the car in a week.

There is no way to know until you restore full voltage to the alarm and try the fob.

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 03:33 PM

thx for your help... i cant believe how long this is taking tho

edit: this is unbelievable. i just clicked the large fob button and wow! the car responds and the door locks pop uo! great right? well the car wont fire. fine. didnt expect it to necessairy but then five minutes later the ALARM SOUNDS AGAIN! how?? the locks are up.... what does it think it is doing?

TheViper · 07-31-2009, 03:47 PM

The voltage is marginal, I guess there was enough voltage to enable the DSL but not enough to turn off the alarm.
Don't you have another car to jump from? Or a least apply voltage to turn off the alarm. A fully charged battery is the answer.
Michael

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 03:50 PM

yeah, we covered that .... the good car has been hooked up and revved > 2000 rpm. etc... this is confounding.

and now the speedo and tach are stuck, not anywehre near zero

TheViper · 07-31-2009, 03:53 PM

So you have the battery jumpered to another battery and the alarm won't turn off? Your remote appears to be in sync if it unlocked the doors. You can always reset the instruments later.
Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by snuggles1

yeah, we covered that .... the good car has been hooked up and revved > 2000 rpm. etc... this is confounding.

and now the speedo and tach are stuck, not anywehre near zero

snuggles1 · 07-31-2009, 03:53 PM

sorry, whats a dsl? again, the locks came up, i thought i was home free. now getting too late since people are home from work to allow the alarm to sound every 10 minutes, the police will come and haul me off like an african-american professor at Harvard!!!!

07-31-2009, 02:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	My alarm situation - help pls?! ok, I dont have too much time to search here because my alarm is going off periodically! as u can guess I'm NOT popular with the neighbors! HELP please: background is that the alarm ran the battery down. I hooked up the battery tender and about 45 minutes later, enough juice got in so that the telltale alarm light was flashing like normal. I clicked the A button on the remote, but the car wouldnt unlock. Now the alarm is going off again! brb... anyone pls.... (Edit) back now... so even though I can put the key in the ignition and turn the ignition, i cant start the car of course bc of the alarm. The power windows go and up down slowly so there's not much juice. I checked the light on the fob and when u push it in, it flickers red so that has enough juice right? what the hell do i do? __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop Last edited by snuggles1 : 07-31-2009 at 02:06 PM. Reason: came back in

07-31-2009, 02:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	and i tried the "reset" idea, where you hold both fob buttons down for 10 seconds and then the large button... that did nothing. __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 02:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	and i tried using the CDL button to unlock the doors... that doesnt do anything either __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 02:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	welll i've gone thru most of LT looking for a solution... Viper if u're here, do u think i need to disconnect the battery? i dont know why that'd help but I'm up for anything. I really dont want the alarm going off anymore (there's a very old neighbor next door) THANKS __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 02:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	thanks, i forgot to mention that i attached my other car up with jumper cables (knowing that the tender wouldnt get her done soon). but the alarm kept sounding so I unattached it... see my problem? thanks __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 02:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
tesprit Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 1,925	If you only have the battery on a tender, do not attempt to do anything with the alarm for at least a day. A nearly dead battery will take a few days to completely charge using a tender and if it was deeply discharged, it may not ever recharge using a tender. Your best bet is to get a standard battery charger to fully charge the battery and once it is fully charged, then try to turn off the alarm and immobilizer. The set alarm does not like low voltage and can perceive this as an attempt by someone to steal the car by tampering with the battery. Once full voltage is restored, the alarm should respond to your alarm fob again or at least to a reprogramming/resync. Remember, tenders are only for maintaining a battery and not for recharging a dead battery..

07-31-2009, 03:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	right..."shut off the alarm"... i must be dumber than i thought, but HOW DO I shut off the alarm? this is why I started this thread... like i said the fob isnt doing anything even tho the red lite is on. __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 03:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	jump start it? how? the car is not responding to the fob...therefore even tho I put the key in the ignition and turn it, the immobilizer disallows it from starting! __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 03:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	ok so if i understand, i should allow the alarm to periodically sound while i pump more voltage into the battery from my other car? eventully it gets enuff power to respond to the fob? __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 03:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	i wonder if i messed it up by resetting it so many times...this is beyond frustrating. i got 2+ hours into this. more time than i spend driving the car in a week. __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 03:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	thx for your help... i cant believe how long this is taking tho edit: this is unbelievable. i just clicked the large fob button and wow! the car responds and the door locks pop uo! great right? well the car wont fire. fine. didnt expect it to necessairy but then five minutes later the ALARM SOUNDS AGAIN! how?? the locks are up.... what does it think it is doing? __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop Last edited by snuggles1 : 07-31-2009 at 03:46 PM.

07-31-2009, 03:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
TheViper Alarmed & Dangerous Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boca Raton FL Posts: 3,205	The voltage is marginal, I guess there was enough voltage to enable the DSL but not enough to turn off the alarm. Don't you have another car to jump from? Or a least apply voltage to turn off the alarm. A fully charged battery is the answer. Michael __________________ Cobra OEM - Alarm, Immobilizer, CDL Emergency Override with warranty Additional Emergency Touch Keys - see link above Brand New Cobra Alarm Remote with warranty Cobra Remote Key Fob Strap Cobra Window Closing Module - Add to your existing Cobra alarm 3 Piece Front Clam Protection Kit with Center Bumper Undertray Removal Tool INFORMATION Improved AC & Heating System Battery Choices & Information Remote Key Fob, Alarm & Immobilizer Programming Light Bulb Conversions 2005

07-31-2009, 03:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	yeah, we covered that .... the good car has been hooked up and revved > 2000 rpm. etc... this is confounding. and now the speedo and tach are stuck, not anywehre near zero __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

07-31-2009, 03:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
snuggles1 I just called your Mom Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: On top of my amplifier Posts: 917	sorry, whats a dsl? again, the locks came up, i thought i was home free. now getting too late since people are home from work to allow the alarm to sound every 10 minutes, the police will come and haul me off like an african-american professor at Harvard!!!! __________________ 2002 Brian Moore C55 >> 2002 Ibanez AR250 with Gibson Burstbuckers >> 2001 Taylor Grand Auditorium >> 2000 Les Paul Custom 3 pickup >> 1998 Brian Moore C90 >> SRF chassis 543 >> 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 >> 1972 Fender Telecaster >> 1939 Gibson Archtop

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode