New Sealed Battery Option - Cheaper, Better! - LotusTalk

qball · 09-25-2008, 09:13 PM

BAB26-12***TEMPEST High Performance SEALED LEAD-ACID AGM BATTERY

Exactly the same size as Odyssey PC680 but 53% more reserve (26AH vs. 17AH)

Cost is ONLY $86.00 - 47% cheaper (compared to $127 for the PC680)

Fits perfectly with Sector111 Battery Bracket.

I just installed one and it fired right up on my S.

qball · 09-25-2008, 09:14 PM

Slightly less reserve and CCA, only $64.50

BAB22-12***TEMPEST High Performance SEALED LEAD-ACID AGM BATTERY

SUTOL111x · 09-25-2008, 10:54 PM

Cool! Thanks for the link! This goes on my list.

Illumiloti · 09-25-2008, 10:59 PM

15 lbs....not bad but my Voltphreaks battery weighs 4.5 lbs, is half the size and has worked flawlessly for almost a year now.

qball · 09-26-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestodude

15 lbs....not bad but my Voltphreaks battery weighs 4.5 lbs, is half the size and has worked flawlessly for almost a year now.

Umm... Voltphreaks = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

This option saves weight over stock and is 1/4 the price of the VoltPhreak's battery.

brokenboy · 09-26-2008, 09:28 AM

Unfortunately, in lead acid, LBS = AH capacity to first order. I really doubt they are really getting 52% more capacity in the same weight as a PC680. If you look at most LA batteries, they get 1AH per lb. This one is claiming 1.5AH per LB.

Not saying it won't work, I just don't think it's really 26AH, at least not when tested the same way the Odyssey or Braille batteries are.

fitfan · 09-26-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestodude

15 lbs....not bad but my Voltphreaks battery weighs 4.5 lbs, is half the size and has worked flawlessly for almost a year now.

yeah - i picked mine up for a dollar a pound, expensive true! - but i have to also say that i have had no issues what so ever - it can go 2 weeks with no charge and starts better than the stock battery ever did - starts the HID when car is not running etc...

TheViper · 09-26-2008, 10:45 AM

I compiled this, and you guys may find it interesting

I know what works for me, but everyone has different requirements.

qball · 09-26-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by fitfan

yeah - i picked mine up for a dollar a pound, expensive true! - but i have to also say that i have had no issues what so ever - it can go 2 weeks with no charge and starts better than the stock battery ever did - starts the HID when car is not running etc...

I think you meant a hundred dollars a pound, right?

qball · 01-04-2009, 07:53 PM

I just wanted to post an update.

I have had ZERO problems with this battery. If my Exige sits without use, it lasts about twice as long as the PC680 it replaced before I have to add a trickle charger.

Starts like a champ.

Extremely good bang for the buck!

tvacc · 01-04-2009, 09:45 PM

I may put one of these in my Elan. Does anyone have a source for the adapters that go from regular battery "post" ends to the screw ends that are on this battery?

codymac · 01-04-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tvacc

I may put one of these in my Elan. Does anyone have a source for the adapters that go from regular battery "post" ends to the screw ends that are on this battery?

Google turned this up:
SLA Battery Adapter Connectors

Search for "Odyssey battery adapter" but be warned - the socket head cap screw in the adapter is captive under a threadsert so it might take a bit of fettling if the threads on the captive screw and the battery don't match up.

fitfan · 01-04-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by qball

I think you meant a hundred dollars a pound, right?

no its true, my voltfreaks weighs 450 lbs!!! hahaha

...whats a couple decimel points among friends?!

gameson · 01-04-2009, 11:45 PM

I dont drive my car that much. Can this battery qball mentioned last longer than the OEM battery? My concern is more on the longetivity, not weight. What's a few pound for me if I can't drive it after a week? I am skinny dude anyway, so it's already compensating, hahaha.

tvacc · 01-05-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gameson

I dont drive my car that much. Can this battery qball mentioned last longer than the OEM battery? My concern is more on the longetivity, not weight. What's a few pound for me if I can't drive it after a week? I am skinny dude anyway, so it's already compensating, hahaha.

The odyssey 925 is what i use in my Elise and most of the LOONYS that own an Elise.

i just started up my car after being parled for almost 2 months. Started rigjt up.

I only wanted to use this cheaper one as I did not want to spend that much on my elan. i still think the odyssey is the way to go on the elise.

TheViper · 01-05-2009, 04:18 AM

In your circumstances you need the largest capacity (AH) you can find.
See schedule in post #8.
Michael

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameson

I dont drive my car that much. Can this battery qball mentioned last longer than the OEM battery? My concern is more on the longetivity, not weight. What's a few pound for me if I can't drive it after a week? I am skinny dude anyway, so it's already compensating, hahaha.

fzust · 01-05-2009, 06:11 AM

Qball,

Sounds like a winner my PC680 lasts almost a week now.... I would worry about weight, but with the amp in the trunk.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by qball

I just wanted to post an update.

I have had ZERO problems with this battery. If my Exige sits without use, it lasts about twice as long as the PC680 it replaced before I have to add a trickle charger.

Starts like a champ.

Extremely good bang for the buck!

SweetDaddyD · 01-05-2009, 07:04 AM

Thank you.
Subscribed.

xceed · 01-05-2009, 07:14 AM

Hmm.. What's up with Voltphreaks?

Their LiFePo4 based batteries carries an insane price. VPH700 (14Ah) @ $1,220 ?

Say they are using LiFePo4 1200mA cells, that's 40 cells combined. Each of these cells cost about $0.99 from my source, and that's proper quality with high discharge. Cheaper ones can be gotten for half that and less.

What exactly is driving up the cost of these batteries? I mean.. c'mon.. under/overcharge prot. and discharge circuits cost? ;p

Edit: http://www.valence.com/sites/all/the...ta%20Sheet.pdf 40Ah @ $890 incl. CANbus datamanager.

fzust · 01-17-2009, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qball

I just wanted to post an update.

I have had ZERO problems with this battery. If my Exige sits without use, it lasts about twice as long as the PC680 it replaced before I have to add a trickle charger.

Starts like a champ.

Extremely good bang for the buck!

Qball, How long is the longest you've left it and had it start up?

09-25-2008, 09:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
qball Wizard of Pugz! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,516 Images: 3	New Sealed Battery Option - Cheaper, Better! BAB26-12**TEMPEST High Performance SEALED LEAD-ACID AGM BATTERY Exactly the same size as Odyssey PC680 but 53% more reserve (26AH vs. 17AH) Cost is ONLY $86.00 - 47% cheaper (compared to $127 for the PC680) Fits perfectly with Sector111 Battery Bracket. I just installed one and it fired right up on my S. Last edited by qball : 09-25-2008 at 10:21 PM.*

09-25-2008, 09:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
qball Wizard of Pugz! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,516 Images: 3	Slightly less reserve and CCA, only $64.50 BAB22-12**TEMPEST High Performance SEALED LEAD-ACID AGM BATTERY Last edited by qball : 09-25-2008 at 10:22 PM.*

09-25-2008, 10:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
SUTOL111x Currently NA Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 530	Cool! Thanks for the link! This goes on my list. __________________ Steve *Exige S or S 240* in 2009 - PLANS ON HOLD DUE TO ECONOMY 2008 Triumph Daytona 675 - Jet Black

09-25-2008, 10:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Illumiloti (Formerly PESTODUDE) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 692	15 lbs....not bad but my Voltphreaks battery weighs 4.5 lbs, is half the size and has worked flawlessly for almost a year now. __________________ Randy '07 Phntm Blk Exige S. Proalloy chargecooler, RLS IC tubes, Sector RTD brace, Manly's motor mounts, cup air box, CF Sector front splitter, wing, and side scoops/ mesh removed, SS brake lines, Sector and "Stan's" shifter mod, "Stan's" clutch pedal mod, Voltphreaks 4.5lb battery, Gotham tune.

09-26-2008, 10:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
TheViper Alarmed & Dangerous Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boca Raton FL Posts: 3,205	I compiled this, and you guys may find it interesting I know what works for me, but everyone has different requirements. Attached Images __________________ Cobra OEM - Alarm, Immobilizer, CDL Emergency Override with warranty Additional Emergency Touch Keys - see link above Brand New Cobra Alarm Remote with warranty Cobra Remote Key Fob Strap Cobra Window Closing Module - Add to your existing Cobra alarm 3 Piece Front Clam Protection Kit with Center Bumper Undertray Removal Tool INFORMATION Improved AC & Heating System Battery Choices & Information Remote Key Fob, Alarm & Immobilizer Programming Light Bulb Conversions 2005

09-26-2008, 09:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
brokenboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 126	Unfortunately, in lead acid, LBS = AH capacity to first order. I really doubt they are really getting 52% more capacity in the same weight as a PC680. If you look at most LA batteries, they get 1AH per lb. This one is claiming 1.5AH per LB. Not saying it won't work, I just don't think it's really 26AH, at least not when tested the same way the Odyssey or Braille batteries are.

01-04-2009, 07:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
qball Wizard of Pugz! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 4,516 Images: 3	I just wanted to post an update. I have had ZERO problems with this battery. If my Exige sits without use, it lasts about twice as long as the PC680 it replaced before I have to add a trickle charger. Starts like a champ. Extremely good bang for the buck!

01-04-2009, 09:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
tvacc Head LOONY Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 2,226	I may put one of these in my Elan. Does anyone have a source for the adapters that go from regular battery "post" ends to the screw ends that are on this battery? __________________ Tony Vaccaro 2005 Ardent Red, Katana Supercharger, Touring, Hardtop, Driving Lights, HIDs, Rear Window Shield, Red Mounts, Laser Shifters, V1, LETSLA Shifter, www.lotusowners.com LOONY (Lotus Owners of New York) and the Church of the HolyLotus Supplier of Polycarbonate Shield for Rear Window IN STOCK , Drive Fast Take Chances

01-04-2009, 11:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
gameson Track Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,999	I dont drive my car that much. Can this battery qball mentioned last longer than the OEM battery? My concern is more on the longetivity, not weight. What's a few pound for me if I can't drive it after a week? I am skinny dude anyway, so it's already compensating, hahaha.

01-05-2009, 07:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
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01-05-2009, 07:14 AM	#19 (permalink)
xceed Idle @ 5700rpm Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 161	Hmm.. What's up with Voltphreaks? Their LiFePo4 based batteries carries an insane price. VPH700 (14Ah) @ $1,220 ? Say they are using LiFePo4 1200mA cells, that's 40 cells combined. Each of these cells cost about $0.99 from my source, and that's proper quality with high discharge. Cheaper ones can be gotten for half that and less. What exactly is driving up the cost of these batteries? I mean.. c'mon.. under/overcharge prot. and discharge circuits cost? ;p Edit: http://www.valence.com/sites/all/the...ta%20Sheet.pdf 40Ah @ $890 incl. CANbus datamanager. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Fed. Lotus Elise [Touring, Sport, Premium and Blackout Pack, Stage 2 Exhaust, Hard/Soft Top] - [Currently @ 6500 Miles] [CF Centre Console, Zoom Eng. CF Rearview Mirror, iTG Cold Air Intake, 55w 8000k HIDs, Engine Dampers, reVerie CF Engine Covers, Raised Rear-Lotus Letters, A/C Bypass Switch] Last edited by xceed : 01-05-2009 at 07:28 AM.

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