Is the V1 becoming antiquated??

[plastique999]

So I've gotten pulled over 4 times in the last 4 months...
1) Fought one TBD and won (80 in 55)
2) Fighting another by TBD (80 in 55)
3) Tagged by aircraft....but let off
4) This one that I got today in Rancho Cucamonga cop tagged me going 69 in a 45 mph...as he was trying to be friendly with me telling me how my car "looked like a fun little car," I thought he would let me go....but he said "No bueno"

I asked him how he got me and he said Laser...he said most cops now use Laser except CHP's on the freeway who use radar.

Is the V1 slowly becoming useless? You figure with technology, radar will be a thing of the past.

Oh well, time for TBD yet again or traffic school...and laser jammers!

[tvacc]

Laser Shifters are illegal in CA

[RacyTracy]

Have you considered that you may have become 'too dependent' on your V1? Personally, I think being more aware and picking and choosing your moments to speed will save you far more than any detector. It is merely another tool to help you, not your sole means of protection.

I haven't had a radar detector in over 20 years......and I haven't been stopped in over 20 years...and if you think I drive like a little old lady....I'll hit 120-130mph on the way to work sometimes.

[goelise]

Originally Posted by RacyTracy

..and if you think I drive like a little old lady....I'll hit 120-130mph on the way to work sometimes.

I'll vouch for her. I've seen how she drives!

[dasmoofler]

Man, you have to be smart and alert. As Tracy said use the V1 as a tool to augment your protection, but it is not total protection. I dentify where cops can hide and put a car between you and them. Always scan ahead for them as well as brakelights on cars ahead. Avoid having cars close behind you because if the V1 goes off full bore you need to stomp on the brakes HARD. Forget worrying about if the cop sees your nose dip down - you don't want his radar to get a lock on you and I don't think (not sure) they can do that with a vehicle drastically changing speeds. I've several instances like this and the cop just sits there when he could have gotten a juicy ticket. I don't know about laser, though.

Tracy, I'm calling you out young lady! (Remember I watch Gunsmoke). When you're doing 120 is it out on the country roads I peruse or the safe sanctuary of some stretches of Chicago expressway that have no place for a cop to hide? Inquiring minds need to know.

Anyway, my V1 has saved me countless times. It's the times when I run into the instant on radar that gets me nervous - having to slam the brakes on and all. As for laser - I think we're screwed if the cop has a good aim. Good reason for no front license plate - I think that helps.

[RacyTracy]

Originally Posted by dasmoofler

Tracy, I'm calling you out young lady! (Remember I watch Gunsmoke). When you're doing 120 is it out on the country roads I peruse or the safe sanctuary of some stretches of Chicago expressway that have no place for a cop to hide? Inquiring minds need to know.

Kennedy Express lanes mostly,especially after the Diversey slip ramp.....a little on the NW Tollway, but that is heavily patroled by both state police and Cook County sheriffs....remember though, I'm driving to work at 2:30am.


I had a state trooper try to 'sneak' up behind this morning. I saw him all the way...Finally he got frustrated and passed me. If I was solely relying on a detector, I'd probably have a ticket now.

[dasmoofler]

Originally Posted by RacyTracy

Kennedy Express lanes mostly,especially after the Diversey slip ramp.....a little on the NW Tollway, but that is heavily patroled by both state police and Cook County sheriffs....remember though, I'm driving to work at 2:30am.


I had a state trooper try to 'sneak' up behind this morning. I saw him all the way...Finally he got frustrated and passed me. If I was solely relying on a detector, I'd probably have a ticket now.

Oh, never , ever rely soley on a radar detector. But, of course we both know that. And there are some things you just can't defend against like the Trooper that sneeks up behind you at 140 MPH and when you check your mirror there he is! And you're cruising at 100. And he let's you go. It's almost kind of fun, like a cat and mouse game. We use our intelligence and skills and they use theirs. I've come out pretty good all in all. One thing I should mention (as if we don't all know it) is that when you're bombing around no man's land you are a lot more likely to get busted for minor infringements than in the suburbs, and if they get you at 47 over (are you reading this Dave?) then you're really dog poopy.

I think I'll walk tonight. G'Night.

[ZJChaser]

Eddie hve you checked to see if yours can be updated/upgraded? They do that time to time.

[polojcp]

Yeah, they got a few traps in Rancho area...

I am becoming so freaked-out about getting ticketed that I generally go around 45 around the streets.

My Escort in Elise is totally useless. I think out car is too low and the windows are too small for the radar detectors to work effectively.

Originally Posted by plastique999

So I've gotten pulled over 4 times in the last 4 months...
1) Fought one TBD and won (80 in 55)
2) Fighting another by TBD (80 in 55)
3) Tagged by aircraft....but let off
4) This one that I got today in Rancho Cucamonga cop tagged me going 69 in a 45 mph...as he was trying to be friendly with me telling me how my car "looked like a fun little car," I thought he would let me go....but he said "No bueno"

I asked him how he got me and he said Laser...he said most cops now use Laser except CHP's on the freeway who use radar.

Is the V1 slowly becoming useless? You figure with technology, radar will be a thing of the past.

Oh well, time for TBD yet again or traffic school...and laser jammers!

[Mr. Know]

I haven't had a detector in many years either. My last ticket was several years ago for 90 in a 55...and that sucked bad. I knew I had a ticket, and no detector would have helped me then. Basically I broke a golden rule...don't speed anywhere near racetracks.

[Amarao]

I've never used a radar detector before. It's pretty worthless these day with instant-on radar and laser, unless the cop is being really lazy.

On the same note of radar/laser, has anyone noticed an effective range for getting a lock on our cars? I ask because yesterday I was barreling up the right lane yesterday only to come to the top of the hill to see a trooper with a radar/laser gun pointed right at me. I pulled into the center lane and he didn't even bat an eye. I was doing at least 90 in a 75 and I was certainly the fastest person on that stretch of road. So yeah, are we that much harder to get a lock on?

[plastique999]

Originally Posted by dasmoofler

Anyway, my V1 has saved me countless times. It's the times when I run into the instant on radar that gets me nervous - having to slam the brakes on and all. As for laser - I think we're screwed if the cop has a good aim. Good reason for no front license plate - I think that helps.

This was my original point....the mopo caught me with Laser...so the V1 wouldn't have saved me.

Another point is that I have NO license plate AND my front license plate placard is shaved off....so i don't know where he aimed his laser. He even said,"I was lucky enough to catch my laser on your front plate." ???? I have no front plate/placard...

[Amarao]

Originally Posted by plastique999

He even said,"I was lucky enough to catch my laser on your front plate." ???? I have no front plate/placard...

Windshield perhaps?

[plastique999]

Not sure if laser captures the windshield...anyone know?

[Rei]

Right now there seems to be multiple options for defense against laser/radar.

K-40 "blue tooth goodness"
Passport "don't know but Bench Mark one of the top installers swears by them"
Laser Park Pro "it's made in Canada good company with lots of support"
"Blinder" think it's a POS but still.
What experience does anyone have with them? Where I live there seems to be no clear leader anyone want to chime in???

[rob13572468]

Originally Posted by plastique999

Not sure if laser captures the windshield...anyone know?

no, he probably caught the headlight assembly which is reflective enough to allow a lock with lidar. still its *very* difficult to tag the front of an elise with LIDAR so hats off to the cop, perhaps his lucky day. Another thing to consider is that if they dont lock on the front they can always wait for you to pass and tag the rear plate which works equally as well.. its not taught as much in training but it does work.

[rob13572468]

as far as the question on the V1, its still considered a very good detector and it has had a very long run as the *best* detector. it is only recently that a few newer detectors have started to beat the V1 in certain areas. The one big one where V1 is getting hurt is in its signal detection algorithms. The V1 still relies on being very sensitive (giving it very long range) but it also has a difficult time determining what is an actual signal from a gun and what is background noise. In particular the laser performance is poor for a number of reasons: first the V1 treats *any* IR modulated signal near 903 nm as a confirmed alert which results in alot of falsing. secondly, the V1 does not have any provision for active jamming (e.g. just having an output to activate an external jammer would be nice.... This falls in the general problem with the V1 in that there is no remote mount option aside from taking the detector and putting it in a weather proof case, which is a big PITA.

Right now the big contender is the passport 9500, particularly the remote mount version which while it is expensive has just about everything. The K40 calibre is also a very nice system but is not without its issues: in particular, the calibre is less sensitive then other detectors but has superior alert filtering (e.g. it does a much better job of filtering out alot of the false alert signals, particularly with LIDAR. same goes for laser park pro. Another issue with the calibre is that you only get two leds for warnings as opposed to the myriad of info the V1 gives.

I have talked with V1 a few times about building a remote version but they are simply not interested. They have a nice little market going selling portables and do not want to pursue anything else...

[kestrel74]

Originally Posted by goelise

I'll vouch for her. I've seen how she drives!

Yep, RT drives fast !...........But here in Michigan, you can do 100+ every day of the week, and noone notices........because that's just keeping up with traffic here !! ( Randy can attest to that )

[RacyTracy]

Originally Posted by kestrel74

Yep, RT drives fast !...........But here in Michigan, you can do 100+ every day of the week, and noone notices........because that's just keeping up with traffic here !! ( Randy can attest to that )

Then why were you on the list to order a V1 bracket??

[JWA]

Originally Posted by plastique999

This was my original point....the mopo caught me with Laser...so the V1 wouldn't have saved me.

It sounds to me like you are under the impression that the V1 doesn't detect laser. That's not the case: Laser How-To