2010 gullwinged door Elise - Melkus RS2000 - LotusTalk

Vishus_1 · 09-16-2009, 02:05 PM

Here is the new Melkus RS2000 (reborn car brand based on the existing Elise)

Full story...PistonHeads Headlines...with more pictures - wait until you see the interior.

This makes me wonder with so many derivatives of the current Elise/Exige platform (Tesla, Mastretta MXT, Dodge Circuit), and the recently restyled 2010 Exige - will the next generation (2012) have a different chassis or will it just be different bodywork on the existing platform?

Seems like there is a lot of continued investment in this platform for it to be phased out in a couple of years.

Tejs · 09-16-2009, 02:21 PM

It's got ~70 more HP and yet only goes 0-60 about as fast? That interior must be a bit heavy =D

RoadDad · 09-16-2009, 02:29 PM

107,500 Euros for a bling-ed Lotus that needs to go on a diet?

Not for me.

Have Monsta cover your goodies with leather and now you have the same interior for under $3000 (guessing based on his latest TBA pricing on a few pieces).

DeanG · 09-16-2009, 03:11 PM

I would rather have an Evora.

PhlypSide · 09-16-2009, 03:35 PM

Yeah, they're trying MELKUS alright.

FiAL.

JnC · 09-16-2009, 04:25 PM

I don't think I've ever seen "Airbag" embossed in day-glo orange before. (See passenger airbag, in RoadDad's pic)

Hello Kitty · 09-16-2009, 04:45 PM

Ugly car.
Ugly name.

Vishus_1 · 09-16-2009, 05:56 PM

But what do you guys think of all these other variations and brands using the 111 platform when, as I understand the Mike Kimberly business plan, the Elise/Exige will be replaced in 2012?

Is it possible the next Elise/Exige will just be on the same chassis?

Monsi · 09-16-2009, 07:18 PM

you could have one of those things... or a mclaren... hmmm choices

txdude · 09-16-2009, 07:20 PM

I cried a little when I saw that Dodge was using the Elise platform too.

ACE51 · 09-16-2009, 07:25 PM

i guess they couldn't even get their own steering wheel.

I wonder how much lotus makes off of selling their design/chasis to these companies

thetoast · 09-17-2009, 09:06 PM

Personally, I think the exterior is gorgeous.

Christophe111 · 09-18-2009, 12:16 AM

Well, it´s a nice evolution of the old design, but that´a bit too retro for me.
It lacks a bit of agressivity to it.
But I am sure there might be some people out-there looking exactly for that retro-touch (just look the success of the new Mini in Europe!).

I find the price way too high for what it is.
If I had 100,000 to spend, I´d personaly either take an Elise S1 with a sick Honda engine swap or I´d get a new Elise SC.
Cheaper, sexier IMHO.
Here you basivally pay for the doors. Which I wouldn´t mind to see on a future Elise, I have to admit.

Very clever from Lotus, to use other brands to come up with solutions for them (the Opel Speedster brought the new soft-top system, now Melkus brings a reliable gull-wings system...)

In the end, mixed feelings from my side. Maybe it looks better in the flesh.

On a sidenote, this chassis has the proportions to create very, very sexy race cars, but everybody makes ugly or boring things out of it (Opel/Vauxhall, Tesla, Dodge, even Lotus with the Europa S).
Really, the designers that made the Elise S2 did an amazing job, which seems really hard to top.

EDIT:
Melkus RS 2000: Der wiedergeborene Ost-Sportler - Forum - Speed Heads
The gull wing doors even have windows on the roof-parts. That is cool! I want these doors on the next Elise!!!

EDIT 2:
Google-Ergebnis für http://www.autobild.de/ir_img/63909494_55e149ea95.jpg
I have to say, it´s growing on me...

EDIT 3:
OK, I´m sold. It´a cool car!

xtn · 09-18-2009, 06:27 AM

I think I just puked in my mouth a little bit.

Lotus-Position · 09-18-2009, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanG

I would rather have an Evora.

I would rather have an enema.

shay2nak · 09-18-2009, 09:42 AM

reminds me of a mini GT40.

sleepe · 09-18-2009, 10:56 AM

the name sounds like Milk-Us for all the money you could save by not buying this joke.

dfa2100 · 09-18-2009, 11:05 AM

As soon as I saw the doors I knew it was going to be heavier. The fact that it is heavier and not significantly faster ruins it for me. If you are going to essentially remake another manufacturers car, you should at least come out with a better product at the end. Of course, I'm probably not in the market segment they are looking for, anyways.

milehitom · 09-18-2009, 11:17 AM

The rear view is hideous...execrable...deplorable...just baaaaad.

Tom

MyFutureSelfnMe · 09-18-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JnC

I don't think I've ever seen "Airbag" embossed in day-glo orange before. (See passenger airbag, in RoadDad's pic)

They forgot to also label "Steering Wheel", "Shifter", and "Air Vent"

09-16-2009, 02:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Vishus_1 Super charged! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,038 Images: 62	2010 gullwinged door Elise - Melkus RS2000 Here is the new Melkus RS2000 (reborn car brand based on the existing Elise) Full story...PistonHeads Headlines...with more pictures - wait until you see the interior. This makes me wonder with so many derivatives of the current Elise/Exige platform (Tesla, Mastretta MXT, Dodge Circuit), and the recently restyled 2010 Exige - will the next generation (2012) have a different chassis or will it just be different bodywork on the existing platform? Seems like there is a lot of continued investment in this platform for it to be phased out in a couple of years. __________________ 2009 Exige 260 SPORT - Chrome Orange / Carbon Fiber / Black with the mustache Purchased through St Louis Motorsports

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Tejs I like less than 2.0L Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 148	It's got ~70 more HP and yet only goes 0-60 about as fast? That interior must be a bit heavy =D __________________ 2005 Ardent Red Lotus Elise View 2007 Sunlight Silver Mazda RX-8 View

09-16-2009, 02:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
RoadDad perfututum futūtor Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,040	107,500 Euros for a bling-ed Lotus that needs to go on a diet? Not for me. Have Monsta cover your goodies with leather and now you have the same interior for under $3000 (guessing based on his latest TBA pricing on a few pieces). __________________ "Really, you want to maintain a semblance of professionalism since you represent Lotus. Me... I don't need to. Bite me." -Randy

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JnC Thread unraveler Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,887	I don't think I've ever seen "Airbag" embossed in day-glo orange before. (See passenger airbag, in RoadDad's pic) __________________ 2007 Cross Country Travelblog 06 Lotus Elise :: Chrome Orange :: Base :: Black Pack :: TC :: SS 00 VW Golf GLS TDI

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Vishus_1 Super charged! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,038 Images: 62	But what do you guys think of all these other variations and brands using the 111 platform when, as I understand the Mike Kimberly business plan, the Elise/Exige will be replaced in 2012? Is it possible the next Elise/Exige will just be on the same chassis? __________________ 2009 Exige 260 SPORT - Chrome Orange / Carbon Fiber / Black with the mustache Purchased through St Louis Motorsports

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DeanG Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 724	I would rather have an Evora.

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Hello Kitty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 567	Ugly car. Ugly name.

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Monsi Statistical Anomaly Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kauai Posts: 2,291 Images: 21	you could have one of those things... or a mclaren... hmmm choices __________________ Dude, there's my car!

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txdude Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ellsworth SD Posts: 137	I cried a little when I saw that Dodge was using the Elise platform too.

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ACE51 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Summerfield, NC Posts: 619	i guess they couldn't even get their own steering wheel. I wonder how much lotus makes off of selling their design/chasis to these companies __________________ 06 Exige CO BWRized 05 Civic "Special Edition" 05 Elise CO, Trim shop interior and other things...SOLD

09-17-2009, 09:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
thetoast Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 555	Personally, I think the exterior is gorgeous.

09-18-2009, 12:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
Christophe111 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: French, living in Germany. No speed limit on the Highway! Posts: 57	Well, it´s a nice evolution of the old design, but that´a bit too retro for me. It lacks a bit of agressivity to it. But I am sure there might be some people out-there looking exactly for that retro-touch (just look the success of the new Mini in Europe!). I find the price way too high for what it is. If I had 100,000 to spend, I´d personaly either take an Elise S1 with a sick Honda engine swap or I´d get a new Elise SC. Cheaper, sexier IMHO. Here you basivally pay for the doors. Which I wouldn´t mind to see on a future Elise, I have to admit. Very clever from Lotus, to use other brands to come up with solutions for them (the Opel Speedster brought the new soft-top system, now Melkus brings a reliable gull-wings system...) In the end, mixed feelings from my side. Maybe it looks better in the flesh. On a sidenote, this chassis has the proportions to create very, very sexy race cars, but everybody makes ugly or boring things out of it (Opel/Vauxhall, Tesla, Dodge, even Lotus with the Europa S). Really, the designers that made the Elise S2 did an amazing job, which seems really hard to top. EDIT: Melkus RS 2000: Der wiedergeborene Ost-Sportler - Forum - Speed Heads The gull wing doors even have windows on the roof-parts. That is cool! I want these doors on the next Elise!!! EDIT 2: Google-Ergebnis für http://www.autobild.de/ir_img/63909494_55e149ea95.jpg I have to say, it´s growing on me... EDIT 3: OK, I´m sold. It´a cool car! __________________ March 2009 Arctic Silver Elise S Dark-red soft-top finally there! Last edited by Christophe111 : 09-18-2009 at 12:38 AM.

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09-18-2009, 11:05 AM	#18 (permalink)
dfa2100 Mors ab alto Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 1,040	As soon as I saw the doors I knew it was going to be heavier. The fact that it is heavier and not significantly faster ruins it for me. If you are going to essentially remake another manufacturers car, you should at least come out with a better product at the end. Of course, I'm probably not in the market segment they are looking for, anyways. __________________ Nightfall Blue, Biscuit Interior, Hardtop Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings...

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milehitom Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,145	The rear view is hideous...execrable...deplorable...just baaaaad. Tom Attached Images