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julius_the_cat · 09-01-2009, 09:05 AM

Looking for suggestions. Need to replace 95 BMW M3 which has been my winter car the past few seasons and has 170K miles.

Needs to have a back seat. My spouse would like the car to have four doors. Looking to spend around $50K ballpark. Used is okay. Needs to be adequate during winters and am willing to buy snow tires if needed. Needs to be more than adequate the rest of the time.

A friend is a Audi fan. Others I have considered:
Cadillac CTS-V
Pontiac G8 GXP
BMW M5 or M6

Thanks for your consideration.

breinhar · 09-01-2009, 09:14 AM

How can you say any of these would be good in the winter... they are all RWD. Then again you used a m3 as your winter beater. You must not live very far north for this to be possible. What state do you live in?

julius_the_cat · 09-01-2009, 09:23 AM

Doesn't have to be great or even good, just adequate during the winter on freeways and plowed city streets. Live in Wisconsin. I do like RWD better. AWD seems to work for some too.

Randy Chase · 09-01-2009, 09:24 AM

Hyundai Genesis

Tracktimeplz · 09-01-2009, 10:06 AM

They make cars with more than 2 doors?

What the hell else dont I know!

LotusLacer · 09-01-2009, 11:45 AM

get the m5

Vampyre · 09-01-2009, 12:12 PM

Evo FTW

MickOpalak · 09-01-2009, 01:23 PM

BMW 550i. Snow tires and traction control will get you through the winter.

ads_green · 09-01-2009, 01:36 PM

I have a vauxhall vxr8 which is pretty much the same as the Pontiac G8 IIRC.
Great cars with masses more space than the German cars with old school V8 power and handling. Ok, not the precision drivers car but that why I have the 211.

In the UK you can get silly power for not much cash with 600 wheel horsepower not a problem and reliable. Well it is a 6.0/6.2 corvette V8 after all

Horses for courses but well worth a look.

CosmosMpower · 09-01-2009, 01:38 PM

Easy, V8 M3 sedan or Audi RS4. I had a 97 M3 sedan which was a blast. They don't make a 4 door M6.

Seb · 09-01-2009, 03:36 PM

BMW M5, Audi RS4, EVO X.

kestrel74 · 09-01-2009, 03:58 PM

Corvette Maybe ???

Scott · 09-01-2009, 06:42 PM

Today, I took delivery of a 2010 Ford Taurus SHO. DO yourself a favor and check one out! It is a fantastic car, 365hp And AWD!!!! I plan on posting pictures by the weekend.

txdude · 09-01-2009, 07:21 PM

How about a Saab 9-3 Sport 2.0L Turbo Aero pkg? Way below your budget but a lot of fun & looks good. I bought my wife a 9-3 last year & love it. GM powertrain without the same crappy interior we've grown to expect from the Big Three. Only downfall, not AWD.

julius_the_cat · 09-02-2009, 04:10 PM

Thanks everyone. Some new options to consider. I don't look forward to spending the time in dealer showrooms. In addition, not all models are easily available here to test drive and I appreciate you sharing your experience.

aschen · 09-02-2009, 04:36 PM

IF it were MY 50k (which it isnt) I would do the following:
sell elise for 27ish
buy 07 exige S for 40ish
buy sti/evo for 30ish or used for 24ish

Pocket the difference for beer (or vintage solid state amplifiers from avatar

). Evo/stis are so great to drive, so practical, and so cheap to own I really don't know why anyone needs a nicer daily driver.

thetoast · 09-02-2009, 06:17 PM

I always felt those were gorgeous cars. Might consider one after the whole bankruptcy thing works out lol...

Quote:

Originally Posted by txdude

How about a Saab 9-3 Sport 2.0L Turbo Aero pkg? Way below your budget but a lot of fun & looks good. I bought my wife a 9-3 last year & love it. GM powertrain without the same crappy interior we've grown to expect from the Big Three. Only downfall, not AWD.

http://www.trollhattansaab.net/image...ab9-3front.jpg
http://images.myride.com/images/no-t...rtSedan400.jpg

MyFutureSelfnMe · 09-02-2009, 06:56 PM

Cmon... my E36 has 350,xxx miles and is still going (fairly) strong

Viggen · 09-02-2009, 07:09 PM

If you are stuck on not owning a fwd car saab has awd as a option & you can get a turbocharged v6 in the 9-3. I still do not know why they didn't give it 350hp instead of the 280 it comes with. In fwd form they actually handle quite well... MUCH better then my 9-3 viggen

there are GREAT deals at the dealerships....

New M3's are nice untill you read about how expensive they are to maintain when the warrante is out..... probably cheaper to drive a lotus esprit v8

FIL · 09-02-2009, 07:11 PM

The transmission on the M5 is crap.

I'd go with the EVO X MR. That was hands down on of the best handling cars I've ever driven. Incredibly fun.

09-01-2009, 09:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
julius_the_cat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 154	Car with four doors Looking for suggestions. Need to replace 95 BMW M3 which has been my winter car the past few seasons and has 170K miles. Needs to have a back seat. My spouse would like the car to have four doors. Looking to spend around $50K ballpark. Used is okay. Needs to be adequate during winters and am willing to buy snow tires if needed. Needs to be more than adequate the rest of the time. A friend is a Audi fan. Others I have considered: Cadillac CTS-V Pontiac G8 GXP BMW M5 or M6 Thanks for your consideration. __________________ 2005 Ardent Red Elise with Borla exhaust, Multivex mirrors and Tesprit rear view mirror

09-01-2009, 09:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
breinhar Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poconos Posts: 404	How can you say any of these would be good in the winter... they are all RWD. Then again you used a m3 as your winter beater. You must not live very far north for this to be possible. What state do you live in? __________________ "I think a Ferrari is a scaled down version of..... God"

09-01-2009, 09:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
julius_the_cat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 154	Doesn't have to be great or even good, just adequate during the winter on freeways and plowed city streets. Live in Wisconsin. I do like RWD better. AWD seems to work for some too. __________________ 2005 Ardent Red Elise with Borla exhaust, Multivex mirrors and Tesprit rear view mirror

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ads_green Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 364	I have a vauxhall vxr8 which is pretty much the same as the Pontiac G8 IIRC. Great cars with masses more space than the German cars with old school V8 power and handling. Ok, not the precision drivers car but that why I have the 211. In the UK you can get silly power for not much cash with 600 wheel horsepower not a problem and reliable. Well it is a 6.0/6.2 corvette V8 after all Horses for courses but well worth a look.

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CosmosMpower Cone Magnet Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,029	Easy, V8 M3 sedan or Audi RS4. I had a 97 M3 sedan which was a blast. They don't make a 4 door M6. __________________ 06 Canyon Red Elise LSS, Touring, SS, Stg 2, HID, BWR swaybar 09 Mini Cooper S 6MT 2000 Grand Prix White S2000

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Scott Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rocky Hill, CT Posts: 391	Today, I took delivery of a 2010 Ford Taurus SHO. DO yourself a favor and check one out! It is a fantastic car, 365hp And AWD!!!! I plan on posting pictures by the weekend. __________________ 05 Saffrron Yellow, Sport, Touring, Star Shield, Larini w/ sport cat, Katana Supercharged, SSR Comps with RE01R's.

09-01-2009, 07:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
txdude Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ellsworth SD Posts: 137	How about a Saab 9-3 Sport 2.0L Turbo Aero pkg? Way below your budget but a lot of fun & looks good. I bought my wife a 9-3 last year & love it. GM powertrain without the same crappy interior we've grown to expect from the Big Three. Only downfall, not AWD.

09-02-2009, 04:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
julius_the_cat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 154	Thanks everyone. Some new options to consider. I don't look forward to spending the time in dealer showrooms. In addition, not all models are easily available here to test drive and I appreciate you sharing your experience. __________________ 2005 Ardent Red Elise with Borla exhaust, Multivex mirrors and Tesprit rear view mirror

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FIL Serial Thrilla Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 236	The transmission on the M5 is crap. I'd go with the EVO X MR. That was hands down on of the best handling cars I've ever driven. Incredibly fun. __________________ 05' Elise - BWR supercharger, Quaife LSD, Nitron Race Triple Adjustable, LETSLA, Larini Decat, Larini Exhuast, ACT HDSS, Fidanza flywheel, V2 Fuel Tank, V2 Steering Arms, BWR sway bar, desnorkled, ForcedFed CF splitter, Manly's engine mounts, S111 harness bar, Schroth harness w/ S111 seat grommets, Oil Drain Valve, Painted Black Diffuser, Braille battery, Custom Battery Switch 05' Corvette - Z51 Convertible - 630hp 6.6L [DON'T YOU JUDGE ME!!!] (SOLD!)

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09-02-2009, 04:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
aschen My car is really small Join Date: May 2008 Location: Woodlands Tx Posts: 395	IF it were MY 50k (which it isnt) I would do the following: sell elise for 27ish buy 07 exige S for 40ish buy sti/evo for 30ish or used for 24ish Pocket the difference for beer (or vintage solid state amplifiers from avatar ). Evo/stis are so great to drive, so practical, and so cheap to own I really don't know why anyone needs a nicer daily driver. __________________ 05 Safron Yellow "bumbleBee" Not sure I can ever go back to a regular car 84 930 turbo "no nickname yet" 06 WRX Wagon "silverbullet"

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MyFutureSelfnMe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,205	Cmon... my E36 has 350,xxx miles and is still going (fairly) strong __________________ Originally Posted by dead_ed I love my elise but there's no hiding that it was assembled by drunks.

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Viggen Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 345	If you are stuck on not owning a fwd car saab has awd as a option & you can get a turbocharged v6 in the 9-3. I still do not know why they didn't give it 350hp instead of the 280 it comes with. In fwd form they actually handle quite well... MUCH better then my 9-3 viggen there are GREAT deals at the dealerships.... New M3's are nice untill you read about how expensive they are to maintain when the warrante is out..... probably cheaper to drive a lotus esprit v8 __________________ Exige S summer 2010.... hopefully