Elise vs Corvette & Nissan Z

[evomind]

Originally Posted by aschen

I wonder how many years the corvette will have to be just about the best bargain in the sports car world before people give it its due respect? Corvettes have been pretty awsome cars for 12 or so years now, and people still call them mullet mobiles and straight line only cars. The worst optioned vette will leave a stock elise for dead at any speed and handles pretty damn well. The best optioned vette will absolutely embarass an elise in accelleration and handle just about as well...

I buy what I like so I have an elise and an old porsche. If I was shoping for the highest performance/dollar I would look no farther than the ol plastic fantastic.....

yeah, again, i dont hear all these stereotypes of every other car on any other car board but this one.
car snobs.
notice how they never mention the miata steroetypes...haha

[Tripledigits]

Originally Posted by spf4000

The Mazdaspeed3 engine has no top end. It really runs out of breath after 5500. I don't think it matches the characteristics of a nimble car like the Elise/Exige.

That's true - not much above 5500, but I think you'd find it's not a problem. The Lotus would feel like a Corvette with more power. Even in the Mazda, there is so much low and midrange power that the lack of redline power is no big deal. BTW, Mazda put a smallish turbo on the car to minimize turbo lag. In order to get the top end back, your compromise would be a bit of turbo lag, which may be an acceptable compromise.

[mini63]

Originally Posted by evomind

hey mini! i hope this finds you well.

but mini, were not talking about "driving ability," were talking abt cars.
what car can do what.
i always hear that from guys in slower cars...."its all abt driving ability!"
then after they lose they whine about how it was the other car that beat them.

Good to see you!

Understood. I'm not making excuses and it's not sour grapes - certainly the Elise/Exige has its shortcomings in the power department. I'm just pointing out that it's painfully easy (and boring) to go fast in a straight line (my opinion).

Also, if someone (the OP) is the type that is concerned about such things, why the h*ll would he/she buy a Lotus?

[cokey]

what part of NY you from? i'd give you a ride in the neon n show ya wat some high ass trq feels like lol.. i just gotta deal with a small spark blow out problem though..


yea base elise will have many problems keeping up with way cheaper cars... especialy if they are sc or turbo'd... i love my neon and it's looks, but an exiege looks a hell of a lot better on and off a track...

[cokey]

Originally Posted by dcasandman

The motor in the SRT4 is just a version of what is in the Evo X a 4b11 platform base I'm pretty sure. It use to be the 4g63 in the Evo IX stroked some. The 4g is heavy Iron Block.

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it's a totaly diff engine and platform.. not even close.. there are a few jap parts in there, as the stock turbo being one..

[sleepe]

Originally Posted by fpitas

Mine is OK, even in 100F heat. Yes, I have a boost gauge. I was losing some boost until I discovered a loose hose clamp on the intercooler, now it's about 9 psi again at higher RPMs. The only hesitation I get is a little "flat" spot at very light throttle at lower RPMs (around 3,000RPM).

That is what I am experiencing. I describe it in more dramatic fashion than you...but I guess all vf2's have this characteristic. Jermaine is supposedly working on an ecu revision for this issue.

-Robert

[sleepe]

Originally Posted by cokey

what part of NY you from? i'd give you a ride in the neon n show ya wat some high ass trq feels like lol.. i just gotta deal with a small spark blow out problem though..


yea base elise will have many problems keeping up with way cheaper cars... especialy if they are sc or turbo'd... i love my neon and it's looks, but an exiege looks a hell of a lot better on and off a track...

Are you able to put down power with fwd?
My nephew has a Jim Cooper Works Mini. It has massive torque steer, but handles remarkably well considering.

[cokey]

with the right tires yes.. at the drag strip, of course slicks would be best.. on the highway, depends.. we have a couple ways to limit boost in gears to help with it of course.. hey fwd is by no means easy.. that's why i love it.. great challenge.. doing burnouts on the highway at 80 mph is pretty fun some times lol...

there are a lot of guys who run their srts at the tracks/road courses.. theres even one in rally.. my setup isn't set up for it with my 61 mm turbo doesn't have a lot on the bottem end and full spool is about 4k.. stock turbo or a modified stocker (ported) or a stage3(factory), and a 50trim are best suited for road course racing...

[cokey]

oh yea and our engine is an A853...

[newguy]

who gives a **** about vettes they are all played out and have the same boring look. as for a ricer neon i could care less how fast your car goes, i live in ny as well trust me the highways we have are not made for our elises, as for your neon try me on the jackie robinson or bronx river parkway. as for the best bang for buck its not the vette now its the nissan gt-r

[cokey]

Originally Posted by newguy

who gives a **** about vettes they are all played out and have the same boring look. as for a ricer neon i could care less how fast your car goes, i live in ny as well trust me the highways we have are not made for our elises, as for your neon try me on the jackie robinson or bronx river parkway. as for the best bang for buck its not the vette now its the nissan gt-r

for one, dnt be a douche cuz i aint the one to play games with.. i'm no little kid.. 2nd, my neon is far from rice, maybe more of a sleeper if you haven't looked at it.. 3rd, i've been on the jackie and usualy take it at very high speeds.. of course an elise should be able to take a neon in some tight twisties... like i said, my car isn't set up for that.. good going on making ya self look like a douche again..

[newguy]

lol you are the one who is making yourself look a douche by talking ****
"what part of NY you from? i'd give you a ride in the neon n show ya wat some high ass trq feels like lol.. i just gotta deal with a small spark blow out problem though..
yea base elise will have many problems keeping up with way cheaper cars... especialy if they are sc or turbo'd... i love my neon and it's looks, but an exiege looks a hell of a lot better on and off a track...

first off lol are you from the hood i ain't the one to play games with. please go back to srtforums.com.

[Demonized]

^ I think you're both being pretty silly

[cokey]

did you see the lol, wtf do you think that means? if you didn't know, trq feels good.. especaily at over 500 ft lbs.. yea i'm from the hood, but doesn't mean shyt.. when i get an exiege then can i be excepted in your group, pretty please.. dumbass.. why i hate stupid people, think they know everything but just dnt know shyt.. i've been to a few lotus meets and these guys know i'm not here just to try n show off.. i'm here same reason everyone else is... like i said, stop being a douche, and i'm not some 20 yr old playing gangsta on the internet..

[Agent ONE]

Originally Posted by evomind

thanks!
seriously, you are so misinformed. my z didnt rattle, is lighter than most of the cars folks here ohhh and ahhh about, and ive never seen anyone with a mullet driving one. again, thats propulgated by fair minded individuals on this board, methinks.
however, my lotus elise, DID rattle a whole lot. worst car quality wise ive ever owned. still a cool, fun car though and i loved it.
just to get you up to date though, since owning my 06 zo6 (best all around sportscar ive ever owned, emphasis on all around), ive owned an 06 viper, a noble m400, and currently i own a superformance gt40.
all of which have been pictured here and there on the board.
any questions?

I have driven a ton of Vettes. They are fast for the money. Just not exciting. You are right, my Lotus rattles like hell, and I love it. LOL

Your GT is the coolest car made right now. I forgot that was yours.

[...m...]

Originally Posted by aschen

I wonder how many years the corvette will have to be just about the best bargain in the sports car world before people give it its due respect?

...thirty years...

[Yamanator]

Originally Posted by evomind

yeah, again, i dont hear all these stereotypes of every other car on any other car board but this one.
car snobs.
notice how they never mention the miata steroetypes...haha

People who call the Vette boring really haven't driven them. Even vanilla Vette's these days will blow most things away and people really don't respect their cornering ability. Z06's, well they're incredible machines. Only the ignorant discount a vette.

[Allan Gibbs]

Originally Posted by Yamanator

People who call the Vette boring really haven't driven them. Even vanilla Vette's these days will blow most things away and people really don't respect their cornering ability. Z06's, well they're incredible machines. Only the ignorant discount a vette.

I'm a people snob not a car snob so I have no biases against the Vette. I test drove a 2001 Z06 and it was one of the few cars that actually impressed me. The main downside I have with the Vette is it's overlightly light steering wheel which didn't have much feed back. BUT, I think GM improved the steering feedback on the Vette a few years ago, right?

[Icedog_16]

They supposedly did something about the steering feel for 2008, but my fiancee's steering is still entirely too light and devoid of feel for my taste - of my recent experience, Elise > 335i > Corvette, IMO. The rear end also feels a bit spooky to me. Granted, I would have opted for the Z51 suspension; she didn't. (But at least she got the performance exhaust. )

[DeanG]

Originally Posted by Allan Gibbs

I'm a people snob not a car snob

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