New Ferrari F149 (Dino/California) The most achievable Ferrari, ever!

[FLuXeXigeS]

IMO i repeat IMO ... buying a ferrari is much much more than just the car, it includes a lifestyle, that only some can dream off, whether it be fashion, business or hobby, it certainly has its appeal to a lot of people

if you ever get to afford/allow to own one or even at least drive one, cherish it, no other car brand will ever come close

go DINO!!!!

[Bavarian Motorist]

Originally Posted by FLuXeXigeS

IMO i repeat IMO ... buying a ferrari is much much more than just the car, it includes a lifestyle, that only some can dream off, whether it be fashion, business or hobby, it certainly has its appeal to a lot of people

if you ever get to afford/allow to own one or even at least drive one, cherish it, no other car brand will ever come close

go DINO!!!!

That sounds like Ferrari snobbery It's just a car.

[FLuXeXigeS]

didnt mean to make it sound that way, i meant that in a positive way...lol

[tvacc]

Originally Posted by lotusforsale

And you can pretty much forget about buying a new Ferrari, any new Ferrari, unless you are already a Ferrari owner.

Not true...all you need is the bucks. I have a doctor friend that just got one...brand new. Never owned a Ferrari before. All he did was come up with the dough.

There is nothing money cant buy except integrity and good health.

[xtn]

Originally Posted by FLuXeXigeS

IMO i repeat IMO ... buying a ferrari is much much more than just the car, it includes a lifestyle, that only some can dream off, whether it be fashion, business or hobby, it certainly has its appeal to a lot of people

if you ever get to afford/allow to own one or even at least drive one, cherish it, no other car brand will ever come close

Weird. My brother owns a very nice Ferrari. His lifestyle is pretty much the same as mine. He didn't suddenly start hanging out with movie stars or jet-setting to all the exotic party destinations just because he has a cool red car in his garage. He did not suddenly become James Dean. He didn't even get invited to the Playboy Mansion. The car does not change the person he is or change the decisions he makes or the path of life he is on.

Although it is a very cool thing to possess, it's still just another thing to possess.

Originally Posted by FLuXeXigeS

didnt mean to make it sound that way, i meant that in a positive way...lol

Doesn't matter how you meant it. The fact that you think it at all is car-snobbery.

[Bavarian Motorist]

Originally Posted by tvacc

Not true...all you need is the bucks. I have a doctor friend that just got one...brand new. Never owned a Ferrari before. All he did was come up with the dough.

There is nothing money cant buy except integrity and good health.

Yes you can buy one, but I think he meant at or close to MSRP.

[codymac]

Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

My point exactly

Been shopping there for a new murse?

[alexandertg4]

I agree with Coi on the lifestyle. A lot of the F-car guys have the whole F-car lifestyle. Now there are exceptions to the rule but they basically wear all F-car clothing, live and breathe Ferrari and think they are hot sh!t. Same could be said about Evos/STis and even us Lotus Owners. C'mon, what other car people ask how much something made out of Carbon fiber weighs? BMW/MB guys would buy carbon if it weighed 2 tons as long as it's carbon fibre but us lotus guys scoff at something that weighs 2 ounces more than stock. The Evo/STi guys like to race anything and everything because even though their cars are fast, they don't realize that it is still a Mitsu/Suby that they are driving. Every car brings a certain lifestyle as far as the niche cars go. Obviously if you drive a honda civic you aren't going to brag MPG to everyone but back to us Lotus guys, when was the last time you didn't reiterate the fact that our cars only weigh 2000 lbs to someone asking about the car? But as with everything, there are exceptions to the rules

Back on topic, I love the idea of the Ferrari Dino. So what if people think they are diluting the Ferrari brand. IF that were the case, many car companies would be out of business. Lotus for example. If they stuck to heritage, there would be no Espirit. Porsche would have no Cayenne or cabrios, and BMW would have no 7 series or X cars. People don't realize that car companies need to sort of spread their roots in order to stay in business. Hell if we were really uptight about the F-car and lotus brands, we wouldn't even have ANY to drive as they were only made into production cars to support their racing expenses.

[LARRY]

Older Ferrari Dino's are mid-engined...alot like our cars!

[tvacc]

Originally Posted by LARRY

Older Ferrari Dino's are mid-engined...alot like our cars!

did I read some where that there was a connection between the designer of the Dino and the Elise?

In my mind the Elise is very Dino like. Except for the driving position. I hate the driving position in the Dino. I think it is terrible for someone like me with short arms. I always feel like a fish out of water in a Dino.

Now I fit right in a Daytona. which is my favorite and the first thing I would buy after hitting the Lotto or the Powerball.

Oh....there is one more thing you cant buy...and what I have experieced the very wealthy and smart know....is time. that is why they have private jets. A private jet is a time machine.that is all.

[LoathUS]

I like how its titled the "cheapest" Ferrari at 170k.

[FLuXeXigeS]

Originally Posted by alexandertg4

I agree with Coi on the lifestyle. A lot of the F-car guys have the whole F-car lifestyle. Now there are exceptions to the rule but they basically wear all F-car clothing, live and breathe Ferrari and think they are hot sh!t. Same could be said about Evos/STis and even us Lotus Owners. C'mon, what other car people ask how much something made out of Carbon fiber weighs? BMW/MB guys would buy carbon if it weighed 2 tons as long as it's carbon fibre but us lotus guys scoff at something that weighs 2 ounces more than stock. The Evo/STi guys like to race anything and everything because even though their cars are fast, they don't realize that it is still a Mitsu/Suby that they are driving. Every car brings a certain lifestyle as far as the niche cars go. Obviously if you drive a honda civic you aren't going to brag MPG to everyone but back to us Lotus guys, when was the last time you didn't reiterate the fact that our cars only weigh 2000 lbs to someone asking about the car? But as with everything, there are exceptions to the rules

Back on topic, I love the idea of the Ferrari Dino. So what if people think they are diluting the Ferrari brand. IF that were the case, many car companies would be out of business. Lotus for example. If they stuck to heritage, there would be no Espirit. Porsche would have no Cayenne or cabrios, and BMW would have no 7 series or X cars. People don't realize that car companies need to sort of spread their roots in order to stay in business. Hell if we were really uptight about the F-car and lotus brands, we wouldn't even have ANY to drive as they were only made into production cars to support their racing expenses.

so true, nicely said

[greenbluff]

It's been discussed before, the Elise is the new old Dino. The new Dino is something completely different and seems not at all related to the old Dino, FWIW. It would be interesting to see a real new Dino, light mid-engine (<2400 lbs, 400 HP) but they would never do it because it would perform better than the other F-cars and hurt their sales with with both F-crowds, the driving Ferrari guys and the red-jacket and patch crowd. The drivers would love it but the other F-guys' wankers would retract even further than the Lambo crowd.

Jim

[andrewgotanelise]

no comments on the picture? looks like the back end of a tesla to me

[xtn]

Originally Posted by alexandertg4

I agree with Coi on the lifestyle. A lot of the F-car guys have the whole F-car lifestyle. Now there are exceptions to the rule but they basically wear all F-car clothing, live and breathe Ferrari and think they are hot sh!t.

Wearing only red clothing and thinking you're hot **** does not mean your lifestyle has changed.

[ransackman]

Originally Posted by FLuXeXigeS

yea lambos are so cool, they have such great racing pedigree...NOT, id rather have that DINO than a Gallardo anyday where do i sign up?

although lambos are cool cars, IMO they are the ULTIMATE poser mobiles

+1

[codymac]

Originally Posted by andrewgotanelise

no comments on the picture? looks like the back end of a tesla to me

Yeah, it's even got the same exhaust tips!

[fitfan]

i have a suspision that this new ferarri is not so much about price...

the current crop of F-cars have in a way lost their way. and ferarri has even said they need to put themselves on a diet.

but your not gonna make friends by changing up the game and giving loyal customers a car thats more efficent through lighter weight and less complexity and charging 599 money...

so what do you do? roll out the new philosophy at the bottom end of your product range, demonstrate that while its less expensive and less powerful, its actaully usable faster, and more efficent. and more "traditional" in its execution - more of a real ferrari

that my guess - its ferarris marketing plan to roll out new philosphy. not an "entry" ferarri at all. probably will be their "best" car once it rolls out.

[FLuXeXigeS]

Originally Posted by xtn

Wearing only red clothing and thinking you're hot **** does not mean your lifestyle has changed.

my comment has nothing to do with wearing red and thinking your hot **** lol

i meant if you have a ferrari u run in a circle of higher society people, which n turn is good networking for business, and the entire experience of owning one, sure there are poseurs and people thinking their hot stuff and such, but you run into that in almost anything in life, there are suby/evo drivera that are cool and dont rev everyone, and still love the whole sub culture of it

thats just my .02 tho, i guess none of us would really know unless we owned one hehe

[Conan]

It doesn't sound anything like a new Dino to me. This link has a bit more information: 2010 Ferrari F149. Partial content...

The long-rumored, long-denied “entry-level” Ferrari is moving closer to reality. Several sources insist the new prancing horse, codenamed F149, will bow at this October’s Paris Auto Salon as the first retractable hardtop convertible from the legendary Italian sports car maker. Under the hood is a V8 engine with direct fuel injection, another first for a Ferrari. Despite all this, the 2010 Ferrari F149 is expected to be priced well below the $190,000 F430, which currently accounts for 75 percent of global Ferrari sales. The powers that be in Maranello see the F149 boosting deliveries by a hefty 40 percent from the record 2007 level to around 10,000 cars a year. The Aston Martin DB9 and Bentley Continental GT are reportedly among the target competitors on price.

the 2010 Ferrari F149 will have a front-engine/rear-drive layout, unlike the mid-engine Dino and V8 F430. Styling is by Pininfarina, the famed design house that has shaped most road-going Ferraris for the past 60 years. Various published computer renderings suggest a blend of Ferrari’s V12 two-seat F599 Fiorano and 612 Scaglietti 2+2 coupes, with the hideaway hard top neatly integrated with the lower body. That roof is said to have a power-folding mechanism engineered by Pininfarina to steal minimum trunk space in this smaller 2+2, which will likely be a tad larger than a Porsche 911. Though some sources expect a mostly aluminum body, one report says the top will be made of steel, doubtless for best performance in various governmental rollover tests.