The new McLaren MP4-12C (New McLaren Road Car) Unveiled. - LotusTalk

PatrickShim · 09-08-2009, 11:13 PM

YouTube - McLaren MP4-12C exclusive video blog by autocar.co.uk

A link to more info and hi-res pics. -- McLaren MP4-12C: First batch of details and images surface — Autoblog

Minnis · 09-08-2009, 11:24 PM

Nice, but doesn't seem too Mclaren-ie... more Honda-ie

Bavarian Motorist · 09-08-2009, 11:32 PM

Weighs 3000 lbs wet... 600 hp... Twin-turbo V8 revving to 8500 RPM... Mclaren developed, too.

Not bad.

eliiz · 09-09-2009, 01:04 AM

It´s ok. Ie been waiting for this, expected more.

EliseAtLeast · 09-09-2009, 04:10 AM

Are you sure this is not an Evora?

tranquility · 09-09-2009, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EliseAtLeast

Are you sure this is not an Evora?

Ya, hints of R8, F430 and Evora. Def not an awe-inspiring design.

knucklehead · 09-09-2009, 05:30 AM

So disappointed. This seems so pedestrian compared to my expectations.

fpitas · 09-09-2009, 05:33 AM

Nice enough, but what's with the front grill? Reminds me of the baleen of a whale.

thegit · 09-09-2009, 06:11 AM

Oh Dear...

Derivative exterior, Cheap looking interior.

It looks like they lowered the bar.
Bland insipid exterior that is inoffensive to the greenies and the have-nots.
Tamed down performance as well.
More weight... if they could get down to 2800#.

The package as a whole does not tell me that passion went into the design and build.
F1 FTW.

jmio.

m

Frank Amoroso · 09-09-2009, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fpitas

Nice enough, but what's with the front grill? Reminds me of the baleen of a whale.

Maybe it runs on Plankton? Dual fuel vehicle?

breinhar · 09-09-2009, 06:25 AM

I have the same feeling as the rest of you. It just doesn't hit home for me. I mean its a great looking car and I am sure its got killer performence but... The best way I can describe it is that when I saw the first images of the 458. I was excited! I just kept starting at the pictures, I had to send them to friends, people HAD to see it. This, I just calmly looked over the pictures and said meh not bad.

MickOpalak · 09-09-2009, 06:27 AM

I think its gorgeous. I love everything about it except the automatic transmission.

Bavarian Motorist · 09-09-2009, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegit

Oh Dear...

Derivative exterior, Cheap looking interior.

It looks like they lowered the bar.
Bland insipid exterior that is inoffensive to the greenies and the have-nots.
Tamed down performance as well.
More weight... if they could get down to 2800#.

The package as a whole does not tell me that passion went into the design and build.
F1 FTW.

jmio.

m

The F1 was a million dollar car. This is a $250k car. 3000 lbs is less than any of its nearest competitors. One article I read made it clear that Mclaren was trying to make somewhat of a GT car here; a "London-to-Monaco" car. That explains the dual clutch auto box (doesn't explain the lacking interior, though...).

The design is not good; I agree. At least not in the front.

Apparently, they're also developing a halo car to be priced way beyond this car with insane performance numbers.

DrJ · 09-09-2009, 06:32 AM

They found Nemo....

Vexige · 09-09-2009, 06:55 AM

Not a fan of styling. It has no personality. Too neutral (neutered?)

EliseAtLeast · 09-09-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

The F1 was a million dollar car. This is a $250k car.

Good point. For the price, its really a good car. Can't compare it to the million dollar F1.

Tejs · 09-09-2009, 08:02 AM

I love the exterior. To me, it looks like a combo Carrera GT and Evora. The interior sucks donkey balls though.

91MR2 · 09-09-2009, 08:14 AM

I think it's awesome!

Walnuts · 09-09-2009, 08:26 AM

I think its great. does it look a little derivative, yes, but when everything is based on wind-tunnel testing, that's bound to happen. Certain shapes and features just work better. Its supposed to be Ferrari 458, Lambo LP560 competitor not a follow-on to the F1. The F1 successor is supposed to come out in 2011 and 2 yeras or so after that, their entry-level 911 competitor car is to be released. At least, that's what I've read.

paulhastings · 09-09-2009, 08:37 AM

Seems a lot of the new cars have the same designer.

09-08-2009, 11:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
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breinhar Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poconos Posts: 404	I have the same feeling as the rest of you. It just doesn't hit home for me. I mean its a great looking car and I am sure its got killer performence but... The best way I can describe it is that when I saw the first images of the 458. I was excited! I just kept starting at the pictures, I had to send them to friends, people HAD to see it. This, I just calmly looked over the pictures and said meh not bad. __________________ "I think a Ferrari is a scaled down version of..... God"

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Minnis '010 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vegas/Phila. Posts: 770 Images: 1	Nice, but doesn't seem too Mclaren-ie... more Honda-ie

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eliiz Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 73	It´s ok. Ie been waiting for this, expected more.

09-09-2009, 06:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
thegit Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Iowa. Posts: 1,078	Oh Dear... Derivative exterior, Cheap looking interior. It looks like they lowered the bar. Bland insipid exterior that is inoffensive to the greenies and the have-nots. Tamed down performance as well. More weight... if they could get down to 2800#. The package as a whole does not tell me that passion went into the design and build. F1 FTW. jmio. m

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DrJ Future Track Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,614	They found Nemo.... __________________ Probablistically!

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Vexige Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 269	Not a fan of styling. It has no personality. Too neutral (neutered?)

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Tejs I like less than 2.0L Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 148	I love the exterior. To me, it looks like a combo Carrera GT and Evora. The interior sucks donkey balls though. __________________ 2005 Ardent Red Lotus Elise View 2007 Sunlight Silver Mazda RX-8 View

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Walnuts happy motoring! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: MD, USA Posts: 573	I think its great. does it look a little derivative, yes, but when everything is based on wind-tunnel testing, that's bound to happen. Certain shapes and features just work better. Its supposed to be Ferrari 458, Lambo LP560 competitor not a follow-on to the F1. The F1 successor is supposed to come out in 2011 and 2 yeras or so after that, their entry-level 911 competitor car is to be released. At least, that's what I've read. __________________ ~Rich 2006 Lotus Exige: GG

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paulhastings Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego native Posts: 604	Seems a lot of the new cars have the same designer.

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