Passed a ZR-1 today in my Elise...very cool car - LotusTalk

sleepe · 08-20-2009, 08:02 PM

Of course it was being driven by an old man, but the car had presence. The carbon brakes looked as big as my front 16's and the wheels were highly polished like a show cars paint. The rear tires must have been 345's like a Vipers'. The car must have been brand new because of the way it was being driven...probably off to Barret Jackson's.

Oh yea, and it was whisper quiet...strange considering 630? hp

What is the running price after markup?

-Robert

madden · 08-20-2009, 08:03 PM

criswells got one on there showroom floor and it looks sick, the brakes are nice!!

deddie · 08-20-2009, 08:33 PM

There were a few pre-production ZR-1s on the factory floor in Bowling Green when I toured the Corvette factor in 2008. Their presence alone said "serious performance car".

erics75218 · 08-20-2009, 09:29 PM

love the chrome wheels, and the plexiglass window in the hood that you can see the plastic engine cover through!

I know I'm being a hater....car is amazing..just a BIT "cheap"...if that makes sense. :-D

Uncle Sam · 08-20-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepe

Oh yea, and it was whisper quiet...strange considering 630? hp

What is the running price after markup?

-Robert

The Vette has RPM flapper valves in the tailpipes so it can be very quiet plus at highway speeds it was probably very near idle in sixth gear - @1200 RPM.

The Vette Forum has said that some have bought at list price, this is the transition to the 2010 model time so more are coming in the fall.

sleepe · 08-20-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by erics75218

love the chrome wheels, and the plexiglass window in the hood that you can see the plastic engine cover through!

I know I'm being a hater....car is amazing..just a BIT "cheap"...if that makes sense. :-D

I believe that plastic is the intercooler.

toedrag · 08-20-2009, 10:23 PM

When I found my Elise at a Rick Hendrick Cadillac/Hummer dealership late in 08, ZR-1 #13 was parked right behind my car. I talked the salesman into removing the uber-plush cover and let me snap a few pictures. No test drive though. It's an impressive machine.

The color of the two vehicles was nearly the same shade, and they looked absolutely gorgeous next to each other.

mopho · 08-20-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by erics75218

love the chrome wheels, and the plexiglass window in the hood that you can see the plastic engine cover through!

I know I'm being a hater....car is amazing..just a BIT "cheap"...if that makes sense. :-D

Are you being facetious?

I think the chrome wheels are ghetto (I dislike chrome wheels on any car for that matter). I also think the window (it's clear plastic over the intercooler) in the hood is lame because the intercooler is not all that interesting to look at, it's just a box. If there was some sort of cool intake runners or something to look at, the window would be cool.

I've driven a ZR1, it's quite good, sounds amazing and is blazingly fast, but would still rather have an R8 at that price point, it's a much nicer car all around.

TheRedMenace · 08-20-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mopho

I've driven a ZR1, it's quite good, sounds amazing and is blazingly fast, but would still rather have an R8 at that price point, it's a much nicer car all around.

Yes, but then you've mailed another $130K out of the country and further damaged our troubled economy.

Safetypup · 08-20-2009, 11:27 PM

I spent about an hour looking at the ZR1 at Criswell's while waiting on something else Lotus-related...

Overall I thought:

Cheap looking chrome rims
Body fit (gaps/alignment) was terrible
Overall it looked like a redneck had souped up a base C6 with crap from Ebay

I'm sure it's a beast of a car performance-wise... but I think it looks worse than a Z06.

I think the sticker was around 105k?

mopho · 08-20-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRedMenace

Yes, but then you've mailed another $130K out of the country and further damaged our troubled economy.

Well do your part and sell your Lotus and buy a Corvette to prop up the economy

Uncle Sam · 08-20-2009, 11:38 PM

You can get silver or competition grey painted rims as well as chrome.

You could put fun pictures in your hood window and change them as it suits you, for example an Electrolux logo.

texige · 08-21-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Sam

You could put fun pictures in your hood window and change them as it suits you, for example and Electrolux logo.

What a great aftermarket idea! Sell different pics so one week you can make it looks like a Ferrari V12, the next week a turbine, a couple of mice on a treadmill ........

IsellLotus · 08-21-2009, 07:35 AM

MSRP on them is around $118K loaded. ADM is running around $30K depending on where your looking.

evomind · 08-21-2009, 08:08 AM

eh.
hillbilly car thats only fast in a straight line. cant stop or turn.
ill keep my miata, thanks.

jesterbot · 08-21-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRedMenace

Yes, but then you've mailed another $130K out of the country and further damaged our troubled economy.

Why the hell should someone settle for an inferior product simply because it was "made at home"? We vote with our purchases - meaning if everyone buys vette's but actually want cars like the R8, Chevy thinks they're meeting the needs/wants of the consumer market - that everyone just LOVES their new vette!

So they continue to produce cars very similar to the vette rather than looking at market data (as their sales drop) and realizing they're losing sales to the R8 - which would give them clues to design cars more like the R8.

Furthermore, some of the money from an R8 sale still goes to this economy. The sales tax goes to our government, part of the purchase price goes to the dealership (staffed by our citizens), paying for American salaries, etc.

Cut the dogmatic, traditionalist flag-waving - it reeks of ignorance.

mopho · 08-21-2009, 08:31 AM

Miata beats the ZR1 in Motor Trends best drivers car test

2009 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car - Best driver's car competition - Motor Trend

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ChrisB · 08-21-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jesterbot

Why the hell should someone settle for an inferior product simply because it was "made at home"? We vote with our purchases - meaning if everyone buys vette's but actually want cars like the R8, Chevy thinks they're meeting the needs/wants of the consumer market - that everyone just LOVES their new vette!

So they continue to produce cars very similar to the vette rather than looking at market data (as their sales drop) and realizing they're losing sales to the R8 - which would give them clues to design cars more like the R8.

And how well has that worked for GM and Chrysler over the last couple decades?

(Just messin' with ya.

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def · 08-21-2009, 09:43 AM

Only seen one - gave the thumbs up on the highway. I like them but as mentioned, the chrome wheels (which seems to be ordered for most zr1s), and see through hood, come off a little cheap

tabajay · 08-21-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mopho

Miata beats the ZR1 in Motor Trends best drivers car test

2009 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car - Best driver's car competition - Motor Trend

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Interesting, thanks.

08-20-2009, 08:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
sleepe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 1,050	Passed a ZR-1 today in my Elise...very cool car Of course it was being driven by an old man, but the car had presence. The carbon brakes looked as big as my front 16's and the wheels were highly polished like a show cars paint. The rear tires must have been 345's like a Vipers'. The car must have been brand new because of the way it was being driven...probably off to Barret Jackson's. Oh yea, and it was whisper quiet...strange considering 630? hp What is the running price after markup? -Robert __________________ Elise'06ST:RAC/r888-Ultradiscs-Larini 8"-Braille-Saikou Michi cans-Nitron sportpro-RTVbrace-widened undertrays-manly's motor inserts-FF engine damper VF2

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deddie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 835	There were a few pre-production ZR-1s on the factory floor in Bowling Green when I toured the Corvette factor in 2008. Their presence alone said "serious performance car". __________________ 2007 Carrera S 2007 Exige S 2007 CBR600RR

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toedrag Crunchy Smurf Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 254 Images: 25	When I found my Elise at a Rick Hendrick Cadillac/Hummer dealership late in 08, ZR-1 #13 was parked right behind my car. I talked the salesman into removing the uber-plush cover and let me snap a few pictures. No test drive though. It's an impressive machine. The color of the two vehicles was nearly the same shade, and they looked absolutely gorgeous next to each other. __________________ 2006 Laser Blue Elise -aka, Blue Lightning 2.0, The Little Blue Car, my automobile soul mate

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Uncle Sam #14 Sport Elise Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rockville, Maryland Posts: 865 Images: 2	You can get silver or competition grey painted rims as well as chrome. You could put fun pictures in your hood window and change them as it suits you, for example an Electrolux logo. Last edited by Uncle Sam : 08-21-2009 at 11:54 AM. Reason: extra letter

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IsellLotus Elise Guru Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland Posts: 1,403	MSRP on them is around $118K loaded. ADM is running around $30K depending on where your looking. __________________ Dan Drayton Internet Sales Specialist Criswell Automotive 301-212-4432 direct 301-461-6292 cell ddrayton@criswellauto.com www.criswellauto.com

08-20-2009, 08:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
madden Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northern, VA Posts: 616	criswells got one on there showroom floor and it looks sick, the brakes are nice!!

08-20-2009, 09:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
erics75218 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 570	love the chrome wheels, and the plexiglass window in the hood that you can see the plastic engine cover through! I know I'm being a hater....car is amazing..just a BIT "cheap"...if that makes sense. :-D

08-20-2009, 11:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Safetypup Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 72	I spent about an hour looking at the ZR1 at Criswell's while waiting on something else Lotus-related... Overall I thought: Cheap looking chrome rims Body fit (gaps/alignment) was terrible Overall it looked like a redneck had souped up a base C6 with crap from Ebay I'm sure it's a beast of a car performance-wise... but I think it looks worse than a Z06. I think the sticker was around 105k?

08-21-2009, 08:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
evomind J. Caesar Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chicagoland Posts: 5,422	eh. hillbilly car thats only fast in a straight line. cant stop or turn. ill keep my miata, thanks. __________________ Vati. C6 ZO6. THE OBITS, YO! KEEP CRYIN! WHAA! REDNECK = PERSON WHO LIVES IN A DUMP BUT DRIVES AN ELISE! I never played by the rules, and I never really cared My nasty reputation takes me everywhere It is admitted by all that he was much addicted to women, as well as very expensive in his intrigues with them, and that he debauched many ladies of the highest quality; among whom were Posthumia, the wife of Servius Sulpicius; and Lollia, the wife of Aulus Gabinius.

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mopho goofn' with the bees Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: out of a suitcase- my stuff lives in LA Posts: 5,310	Miata beats the ZR1 in Motor Trends best drivers car test 2009 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car - Best driver's car competition - Motor Trend . __________________ ________________ 2004 Caterham 7 Superlight R - 67 Lotus Elan www.morgansegal.com www.socalsportscar.com

08-21-2009, 09:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
def ...ault Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 2,610	Only seen one - gave the thumbs up on the highway. I like them but as mentioned, the chrome wheels (which seems to be ordered for most zr1s), and see through hood, come off a little cheap __________________ //kevin - 05 Graphite Gray - Red Touring / LSS / Starshield / Stage 2 + more SOLD after 1192 days and 22961 miles

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