Rally Car Suggestions - LotusTalk

zygotesoup · 10-16-2009, 04:27 PM

A friend of mine and I are shopping for a car to do ice rally races this winter. AWD or RWD, cheap, reliable, fun... thats about all the requirements for the car. We plan on completely gutting it, slapping some studded tires on and calling it a day. During the "off season" (spring summer) we will also use it for dirt racing. Any suggestions would be great! Thanks!

Rei · 10-16-2009, 04:33 PM

Simple 95 Subi Impreza RS dirt cheap. No turbo issues to worry about and if you do a head gasket job on them reliable. But like always that's the kicker with any car. It's a pain to dive deep into that motor.

delise · 10-16-2009, 04:42 PM

eBay find of the Day: Ford RS200... in California! — Autoblog

Bidding starts at $2,500

LotusStig22 · 10-16-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rei

Simple 95 Subi Impreza RS dirt cheap. No turbo issues to worry about and if you do a head gasket job on them reliable. But like always that's the kicker with any car. It's a pain to dive deep into that motor.

Can't go wrong with an Impreza.
I would also like to be typical and add Evo to the list.

And that listing's ended a while ago mate.

kwancho · 10-16-2009, 04:48 PM

Comments say that RS200 sold for $86k. Sounds about right. Yum.

chapster5 · 10-16-2009, 05:02 PM

Enough Said

LotusStig22 · 10-16-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chapster5

Enough Said

What's YOUR definition of "cheap"? :P

chapster5 · 10-16-2009, 05:43 PM

$500,000

AnsisK · 10-16-2009, 05:45 PM

I'll be alright if you thank me later

25psi_Elise_Killer · 10-16-2009, 05:54 PM

Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 2nd generation 1995-1999
Mitsubishi Eclipse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

all wheel drive, turbo charged, tons of parts available, similar engine to an Evo

An Evo is not cheap to maintain if you plan on beating on it a lot...

mopho · 10-16-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chapster5

$500,000

More like $150,000-175,000, it's a Group N car

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Aforementioned Subaru Impreza RS would be your best bet.
Mitsubishi Eclipse might be ok, but they tend to break a lot in rally

If you want to go RWD, an old RX-7, Corolla, Datsun 510, etc

LotusStig22 · 10-16-2009, 06:46 PM

All right C5, let's see your car mate, and if it's anything short of a Zonda, "Imma let you finish, but Zygotesoup had one of the most realistic ideas of all time"

zygotesoup · 10-16-2009, 06:57 PM

This is a car I called about today but the seller could barely speak english and said he had no idea what car i was talking about, soooooo... back to the drawing board i suppose

Toyota Corolla 1.8 1982 (Firm)

Simba · 10-16-2009, 07:06 PM

90-93 Celica GT-Four/Alltrac if you can find one. I have two. Very bomb proof, very strong engine. They generally go for 5-6k for a fairly sound one. Toss another 4-5k into it and you've got a reliable 300 at the wheels.

Very fun car.

Demonized · 10-16-2009, 07:16 PM

Merkur XR4Ti. Easy to work on, 2.3L turbo, RWD. easily found in the sub $4k range. (By easily I mean the car itself is hard to find... but generally $1000-3500)

Also easy to get 300whp for under $1k

lurker · 10-16-2009, 09:13 PM

Mazda 323 gtx. The only trouble would be finding one.

biffster10 · 10-17-2009, 12:27 AM

I'd go for a 1st gen Talon/Eclipse turbo. Mine made it to 340,000 kms and 18 years. I really beat on it in my 20s, but I treated the turbo well. I could put 3/4 boost on the ground in snow/slush with only V-rated all-seasons. Totally predictable in every motion at every traction level - I would rally that car ANY day!

RENDERMAN · 10-17-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Simba

90-93 Celica GT-Four/Alltrac if you can find one. I have two. Very bomb proof, very strong engine. They generally go for 5-6k for a fairly sound one. Toss another 4-5k into it and you've got a reliable 300 at the wheels.

Very fun car.

I Igree, before the STI was even a sperm this car won 2 world championships for Toyota!!

Viggen · 10-17-2009, 06:15 AM

Go talk to people who ice race in your area & see what people have good luck with.

chapster5 · 10-17-2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LotusStig22

All right C5, let's see your car mate, and if it's anything short of a Zonda, "Imma let you finish, but Zygotesoup had one of the most realistic ideas of all time"

Nah not a Pagani, its a Veyron but i cant get pics now its over at my armed garage 380miles from me

10-16-2009, 04:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
zygotesoup Resident Drunk Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,225	Rally Car Suggestions A friend of mine and I are shopping for a car to do ice rally races this winter. AWD or RWD, cheap, reliable, fun... thats about all the requirements for the car. We plan on completely gutting it, slapping some studded tires on and calling it a day. During the "off season" (spring summer) we will also use it for dirt racing. Any suggestions would be great! Thanks! __________________ 2005 BADA55 Lotus Elise 1993 Black BMW 325i 2000 Solar Yellow MR-S - SOLD 1987 White on White Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD 1993 Maroon Lexus SC400 - SOLD

10-16-2009, 04:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rei Lotus/TRD Geek Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond WA Posts: 623	Simple 95 Subi Impreza RS dirt cheap. No turbo issues to worry about and if you do a head gasket job on them reliable. But like always that's the kicker with any car. It's a pain to dive deep into that motor. __________________ Kids in the Back seat causes Accidents Accidents in the Back Seat causes Kids Moral Stick with a Two Seater

10-16-2009, 04:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
delise 2005 Ardent Red, Touring Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Beverly Hills Posts: 2,534	eBay find of the Day: Ford RS200... in California! — Autoblog Bidding starts at $2,500 Attached Images __________________ "You can run over an insect and know just from the messages coming through the wheel how many legs it had. Was it a beetle? Was it a spider? Hang on......... spider." Jeremy Clarkson - Top Gear

10-16-2009, 04:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
kwancho Stormtrooper Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Altos Hills, CA Posts: 95	Comments say that RS200 sold for $86k. Sounds about right. Yum. __________________ 2007 Aspen White Exige S Track, Touring, LSD Golden Gate Lotus Club #979 Larini SC Sport, R888, black badges, red folding tow hook

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10-16-2009, 05:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
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10-16-2009, 05:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
25psi_Elise_Killer Drunk on alcohol Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,130	Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 2nd generation 1995-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia all wheel drive, turbo charged, tons of parts available, similar engine to an Evo An Evo is not cheap to maintain if you plan on beating on it a lot... __________________ '06 Evo IX Stage 1E Tuned by Road Race Engineering(Stock:turbo,intake,internals,ECU) Walbro 255lph fuel pump,RC Engineering1000cc Injectors, AVO exhaust,RRE dyno tune flash, Dejon Tool boost controller (325whp @ 22PSI Costco 91 octane, 353whp @ 25psi on 100 octane, 383whp @30psi on E85) , Zeitronix wideband,Zeitronix Ethanol Content Analyzer, Defi BF gauges, Stoptech rotors, SS brakelines,Graphic/Interior Design,Brand Identities,Invitations www.nomadic-nomads.com

10-16-2009, 06:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
LotusStig22 LT Rebel in Hiding. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wouldn't you like to know? Posts: 848	All right C5, let's see your car mate, and if it's anything short of a Zonda, "Imma let you finish, but Zygotesoup had one of the most realistic ideas of all time" __________________ "My plan is to dress as a leprechaun and stand at the side of the road with an engine crane and a crowbar. The cops will waste valuable time breathalyzing the driver after he tells them a leprechaun stole his engine and I'll be able to make an escape" ~Cthulhu ChuforiaGraffix.com SDD Lives On! SweetDaddyDelicious(at)hotmail(dot)com

10-16-2009, 06:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
zygotesoup Resident Drunk Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,225	This is a car I called about today but the seller could barely speak english and said he had no idea what car i was talking about, soooooo... back to the drawing board i suppose Toyota Corolla 1.8 1982 (Firm) __________________ 2005 BADA55 Lotus Elise 1993 Black BMW 325i 2000 Solar Yellow MR-S - SOLD 1987 White on White Porsche 944 Turbo - SOLD 1993 Maroon Lexus SC400 - SOLD

10-16-2009, 07:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Simba 2/3 hp to the paws. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NY Posts: 497	90-93 Celica GT-Four/Alltrac if you can find one. I have two. Very bomb proof, very strong engine. They generally go for 5-6k for a fairly sound one. Toss another 4-5k into it and you've got a reliable 300 at the wheels. Very fun car. Attached Images

10-16-2009, 07:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
Demonized NOT ßANNED! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,546	Merkur XR4Ti. Easy to work on, 2.3L turbo, RWD. easily found in the sub $4k range. (By easily I mean the car itself is hard to find... but generally $1000-3500) Also easy to get 300whp for under $1k __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Katana Supercharger, LSS Wheels, 2Bular exhaust & cat, rear panel delete, Cup Airbox, Volt / Oil temp gauge, Ohlins double adjustable coilovers, Dual Oil Coolers, S111 RTD Brace, Moroso Oil Pan, MicroMirror, S111 "V-Force" Harness bar, Manly Engine Mounts, Odyssey PC680 & RLS Bracket, Saikou Michi OCC, CF Scoops, CF Bootlid, CF Front Lip.

10-16-2009, 09:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
lurker Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: hickory, nc Posts: 13	Mazda 323 gtx. The only trouble would be finding one. __________________ Jordan NA Miata

10-17-2009, 12:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
biffster10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mississauga, ON Posts: 121	I'd go for a 1st gen Talon/Eclipse turbo. Mine made it to 340,000 kms and 18 years. I really beat on it in my 20s, but I treated the turbo well. I could put 3/4 boost on the ground in snow/slush with only V-rated all-seasons. Totally predictable in every motion at every traction level - I would rally that car ANY day! __________________ 2006 Aspen White Elise 2007 39' Beneteau Cyclades Last edited by biffster10 : 10-17-2009 at 03:08 PM.

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Viggen Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 344	Go talk to people who ice race in your area & see what people have good luck with. __________________ Exige S summer 2010.... hopefully

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