To all people with a K&N Intake - HELP - LotusTalk

qu1Z · 09-29-2008, 10:56 AM

57-0597 - K&N 57i Series Kits, 57i International Intake Kit
57A-6034 - K&N Intake Kits, Performance Intake Kit

Those are the 2 intakes made for an 05' lotus elise. Which one can I be sure will be more reliable and easier to install.

charliex · 09-29-2008, 11:01 AM

6034

2004-2007 Lotus Exige and Elise Gain Performance with K&N Air Intake System

Scrumpot · 09-29-2008, 11:56 AM

And, would a re-tune/ECU flash be potentially also required (or useful) with this?

Without an ECU re-flash, specifically tuned to the change in MAF, doesn't the stock ECU just "re-learn" this, in some cases even REDUCING effectiveness/horsepower? Seems like scores of other threads at least tend to indicate this.

So another short question then would be - why bother?

stinkyonion · 09-29-2008, 07:23 PM

It seems like their should be a repository of ecu flashes available for common mods without everyone having to take their car to a dyno. Curious what it costs to have your car dyno'd and reflashed since I have never done it (and dont even know if can be done here in Chicago--we have dynos but no lotus ecu programmer person that I know of).

MightyMike · 10-16-2008, 09:20 PM

Anyone actually buy one of these yet? If so, what are your thoughts?

MightyMike · 12-26-2008, 09:33 AM

No comments on the K&N intake kit? I'll post mine & photos once I get it installed.

Bane · 12-26-2008, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMike

No comments on the K&N intake kit? I'll post mine & photos once I get it installed.

I'm really curious to hear what your thoughts are about this kit!

It looks like one of the most thought-out intake kits I've seen for the Elise so far.

*edit* I'm actually thinking about just picking one of these up. I see it online for under $200!

MightyMike · 12-26-2008, 02:04 PM

I just placed an order through Jegs. I'll post photos and comments once installed. I haven't driven my car since early November, so it may be a couple of months before I get it out on the road.

andrewgotanelise · 12-26-2008, 03:13 PM

I'm pretty sure i read ronin advocating this intake at MM, but I'd love to have charliex chime in on this intake too

Manxman · 01-03-2009, 08:46 AM

I am also interested to hear how this works out. I tried contacting K&N, but they were very coy about making any claims, saying that the kit was`developed in the UK and they would not even warrant that it would fit Fed cars! Sounds like they are just steering clear of any clash with the emissions police...
So I tried posting on SELOC and had one reply from an owner who thought it might have added a few bhp, but nothing objective.
So I'm no further ahead. I'm not convinced I want to fit this just for the noise....but as mentioned above, it does seem to have promise.
There must be some on the road with ET members...what's the word ladies and gents?

A7594217 · 01-03-2009, 11:27 AM

Anybody? Im very curious too.

julius_the_cat · 01-05-2009, 06:26 AM

Previously posted question to Charlie in My tuning stuff thread:
Do you know anyone using the K&N intake? If you were using your +8hp tune, would you add this intake?

Charliex: Yeah we use it on a lot of cars, it'll be fine.

Manxman · 01-12-2009, 04:03 PM

OK - here's some feedback from K&N UK. THey claim that the kit resulted in a 9HP gain at 7,500rpm on the car they used. Don't know if this was stock - I will enquire, but this sounds promising.

Demonized · 01-12-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manxman

OK - here's some feedback from K&N UK. THey claim that the kit resulted in a 9HP gain at 7,500rpm on the car they used. Don't know if this was stock - I will enquire, but this sounds promising.

Without a reflash of your ECU by someone like CharlieX for your specific application, those HP gains would not remain, from my understanding.

MightyMike · 01-12-2009, 09:04 PM

It came in the mail today, but sadly my Elise is in storage until March.

Manxman · 01-13-2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonized

Without a reflash of your ECU by someone like CharlieX for your specific application, those HP gains would not remain, from my understanding.

I was hoping that by having the air sensor incorporated in the CAI this might not happen, but I confess to complete ignorance on the subject.

CharlieX....your thoughts please

?

charliex · 01-13-2009, 04:41 PM

The k&n filter matches the factory airbox, we've not found any issues with it.

Manxman · 01-13-2009, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charliex

The k&n filter matches the factory airbox, we've not found any issues with it.

Do you think the K&N UK claims of a 9hp gain at 7,500rpm are reasonable - and sustained?

charliex · 01-13-2009, 06:02 PM

I haven't seen the specifics , but on the FI car its not an unreasonable claim.

Manxman · 01-14-2009, 05:38 PM

K&N UK have confirmed they used a stock Elise and that there is no degradation of performance due to the ECUI adapting to the CAI

09-29-2008, 10:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
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09-29-2008, 11:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	6034 2004-2007 Lotus Exige and Elise Gain Performance with K&N Air Intake System __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

09-29-2008, 11:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
Scrumpot Live on the edge Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 757	And, would a re-tune/ECU flash be potentially also required (or useful) with this? Without an ECU re-flash, specifically tuned to the change in MAF, doesn't the stock ECU just "re-learn" this, in some cases even REDUCING effectiveness/horsepower? Seems like scores of other threads at least tend to indicate this. So another short question then would be - why bother? __________________ '08 Exige-S Club Racer Desnorkelled, Stage-2, HID's, DRL Defeat, Sector111 Tow-hook & Fire Extinguisher, Deeply Fettled Roof S/C Air Intake, Schroth Prof II ASM 4pt Harnesses, RLS Lightweight gunmetal coated intercooler tubes, Saikou-Michi catch-cans, dual-SPAL hi-perf intercooler puller-fans, custom painted engine cover

10-16-2008, 09:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
MightyMike Legend in my own mind Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 833 Images: 9	Anyone actually buy one of these yet? If so, what are your thoughts? __________________ 06 ST Elise 02 SLK32 AMG BWR Supercharged w/CharlieX tune, Borla Exhaust, OCC, ACT XTSS Clutch, Zeitronix A/F Meter, LETSLA, Manly Mounts, RTD Brace, ReVerie Diffuser, Scoops, Side Skirts, & Shifter Ball, Forcefed Spoiler, & a bunch of other stuff

12-26-2008, 09:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
MightyMike Legend in my own mind Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 833 Images: 9	No comments on the K&N intake kit? I'll post mine & photos once I get it installed. __________________ 06 ST Elise 02 SLK32 AMG BWR Supercharged w/CharlieX tune, Borla Exhaust, OCC, ACT XTSS Clutch, Zeitronix A/F Meter, LETSLA, Manly Mounts, RTD Brace, ReVerie Diffuser, Scoops, Side Skirts, & Shifter Ball, Forcefed Spoiler, & a bunch of other stuff

09-29-2008, 07:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
stinkyonion Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oak Brook, IL Posts: 243 Images: 2	It seems like their should be a repository of ecu flashes available for common mods without everyone having to take their car to a dyno. Curious what it costs to have your car dyno'd and reflashed since I have never done it (and dont even know if can be done here in Chicago--we have dynos but no lotus ecu programmer person that I know of).

12-26-2008, 02:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
MightyMike Legend in my own mind Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 833 Images: 9	I just placed an order through Jegs. I'll post photos and comments once installed. I haven't driven my car since early November, so it may be a couple of months before I get it out on the road. __________________ 06 ST Elise 02 SLK32 AMG BWR Supercharged w/CharlieX tune, Borla Exhaust, OCC, ACT XTSS Clutch, Zeitronix A/F Meter, LETSLA, Manly Mounts, RTD Brace, ReVerie Diffuser, Scoops, Side Skirts, & Shifter Ball, Forcefed Spoiler, & a bunch of other stuff

12-26-2008, 03:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
andrewgotanelise MMA Fighter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Where the drugs are cheap and the girls are easy Posts: 1,208	I'm pretty sure i read ronin advocating this intake at MM, but I'd love to have charliex chime in on this intake too __________________ 05 NFB Elise / Katana SC / No Snorkle / 3.2 "10" psi pulley / Stage 1 Exhaust / Decat / Green Filter

01-03-2009, 08:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Manxman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 99	I am also interested to hear how this works out. I tried contacting K&N, but they were very coy about making any claims, saying that the kit was`developed in the UK and they would not even warrant that it would fit Fed cars! Sounds like they are just steering clear of any clash with the emissions police... So I tried posting on SELOC and had one reply from an owner who thought it might have added a few bhp, but nothing objective. So I'm no further ahead. I'm not convinced I want to fit this just for the noise....but as mentioned above, it does seem to have promise. There must be some on the road with ET members...what's the word ladies and gents? __________________ 2006 Elise, Chrome Orange, Sport Pack, Touring Pack, Stage 2 2004 Cooper S, Black, -15% s/c pulley, 22mm sway bar

01-03-2009, 11:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
A7594217 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 357	Anybody? Im very curious too. __________________ 05 GG Elise-BWR S/C-Nitrons-Intake-Exhaust-Test Pipe-Cf Scoops-Cf Lip-Cf Diffuser-Piaa Wheels-And all the little stuff

01-05-2009, 06:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
julius_the_cat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 154	Previously posted question to Charlie in My tuning stuff thread: Do you know anyone using the K&N intake? If you were using your +8hp tune, would you add this intake? Charliex: Yeah we use it on a lot of cars, it'll be fine. __________________ 2005 Ardent Red Elise with Borla exhaust, Multivex mirrors and Tesprit rear view mirror

01-12-2009, 04:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
Manxman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 99	OK - here's some feedback from K&N UK. THey claim that the kit resulted in a 9HP gain at 7,500rpm on the car they used. Don't know if this was stock - I will enquire, but this sounds promising. __________________ 2006 Elise, Chrome Orange, Sport Pack, Touring Pack, Stage 2 2004 Cooper S, Black, -15% s/c pulley, 22mm sway bar

01-12-2009, 09:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
MightyMike Legend in my own mind Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 833 Images: 9	Got My K&N Intake Today! It came in the mail today, but sadly my Elise is in storage until March. __________________ 06 ST Elise 02 SLK32 AMG BWR Supercharged w/CharlieX tune, Borla Exhaust, OCC, ACT XTSS Clutch, Zeitronix A/F Meter, LETSLA, Manly Mounts, RTD Brace, ReVerie Diffuser, Scoops, Side Skirts, & Shifter Ball, Forcefed Spoiler, & a bunch of other stuff

01-13-2009, 04:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	The k&n filter matches the factory airbox, we've not found any issues with it. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

01-13-2009, 06:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
charliex OSX Black hat Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 9,935	I haven't seen the specifics , but on the FI car its not an unreasonable claim. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100.ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 West Coast Lotus Meet - Las Vegas - November 6-9 2009 http://www.westcoastlotus.com/

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01-14-2009, 05:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
Manxman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 99	K&N UK have confirmed they used a stock Elise and that there is no degradation of performance due to the ECUI adapting to the CAI __________________ 2006 Elise, Chrome Orange, Sport Pack, Touring Pack, Stage 2 2004 Cooper S, Black, -15% s/c pulley, 22mm sway bar