How much heat shielding to take off? - LotusTalk

elisesile · 04-03-2009, 11:57 PM

Arqray SS single tip. Von Hep panel delete bracket. How much heat shielding is safe to remove and still look good?

V-RAPTOR · 04-04-2009, 05:51 AM

You need to remove it ALL in order for it to look good, in my opinion!
That is what I did. At first I had left the heat shield over the elbow
pipe and it looked like crap. So I got some header wrap, removed
the rest of the heat shield, and wraped that pipe (bc it is so close
to the clam). I have had no issues thus far with the entire heat
shield removed and have read an endless amount of threads here
with the same results. Removing the heat shield from the elbow
pipe was very time consuming for me using tin snipes and cutting
off a little at a time. Maybe some one else can chime in with an
easier way.

Anyways here is my final results.

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thegoat · 04-04-2009, 06:51 AM

Agreed. Take it all off.

I didn't have to cut anything when I took mine. Maybe you missed a bolt somewhere?

elisesile · 04-04-2009, 07:55 AM

It does look very clean with all the shielding off. Don't you have heat problems inside your trunk?

thegoat · 04-04-2009, 08:05 AM

No, no issues. After removing the heat shielding, you will see that there is a secondary heat shielding/insulation on the underside of the wall between the exhaust and the trunk. I would leave that in.

While I don't hang out in the trunk to see how hot it gets, the milk stays cold on the ride home.

V-RAPTOR · 04-04-2009, 02:39 PM

Same here no heat problems in the trunk. Car runs a couple degrees cooler also.

elisesile · 04-04-2009, 04:29 PM

You guys inspired me. Ripped that darn heat sheild completely out. Did leave the U tube cover for now.

Thanks for the advise.

Darkside Eng · 04-04-2009, 05:51 PM

umm... I cut mine so that I left the top piece so whatever i had in the trunk would not cook. I took off that ugly U tube cover and wrapped it.

As you can see my wrap is fading already, you should go with a high performance wrap, unlike i did.

jallingt · 04-04-2009, 09:56 PM

+1, Looks like I have some wrapping to do, the black header wrap looks great.
I bet it weighs less than the Al heat shield

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegoat

No, no issues. After removing the heat shielding, you will see that there is a secondary heat shielding/insulation on the underside of the wall between the exhaust and the trunk. I would leave that in.

While I don't hang out in the trunk to see how hot it gets, the milk stays cold on the ride home.

V-RAPTOR · 04-05-2009, 05:33 AM

You are going to eventually remove the rest of it. Trust me I know!

Quote:

Originally Posted by elisesile

You guys inspired me. Ripped that darn heat sheild completely out. Did leave the U tube cover for now.

Thanks for the advise.

MightyMike · 04-05-2009, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkside

umm... I cut mine so that I left the top piece so whatever i had in the trunk would not cook. I took off that ugly U tube cover and wrapped it.

As you can see my wrap is fading already, you should go with a high performance wrap, unlike i did.

Mine is also wrapped. Be advised that you should re-wrap at least once a year as the wrap disintegrates over time due to the heat.

Z-dculus · 04-12-2009, 03:41 PM

can someone inventory all the bolts that will need to come out to get the heat shield off? does the exhaust need to be off also? I may do this.....but want to be able to return to stock

elisesile · 04-12-2009, 03:53 PM

Six or seven black 8mm bolts. Need to take out the exhaust and rear panel. I was able to get the complete, un-cut shield out without removing the cat. Also want to return to stock if needed. U-tube cover requires removal of sensor or cutting.

Z-dculus · 04-12-2009, 04:09 PM

awesome thanks for the quick response. are they all under the car or are some inside the trunk?

elisesile · 04-12-2009, 04:17 PM

all heat sheild bolts are under the car. top mounting bolts for the rear panel are in the trunk

Z-dculus · 04-12-2009, 04:35 PM

great thanks a lot man........we're getting naked!

MNlotus · 04-12-2009, 04:40 PM

yeah i think i need to trim more off my rear. there is still some right next to the tip and right by the u bend

elisesile · 04-12-2009, 04:44 PM

BTW: I was worried about not having any heatshielding, but as others on this thread have noted, no problem.

Took the car to track day Friday with no heating problems. Coolant temp as measured by the dash indicator is about 5 degrees cooler than before removal. Makes sense I guess because there is now air flow possible through that area. Completely enclosed before.

stinkyonion · 06-19-2009, 10:51 AM

Took all mine off also, no wrap. No problems.

breinhar · 06-19-2009, 12:47 PM

I cut mine just above the bend on the main sheild so that the trunk was still protected. So far I have been fine. I wrapped my u joint and even with the wrap the side of the clam gets quite hot (not enough for me to be concerned) after a good drive or track day. But I am also s/c.

04-03-2009, 11:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 217	How much heat shielding to take off? Arqray SS single tip. Von Hep panel delete bracket. How much heat shielding is safe to remove and still look good? Attached Images __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

04-04-2009, 05:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
V-RAPTOR STARLIGHT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NOVA (Winchester) Posts: 645	You need to remove it ALL in order for it to look good, in my opinion! That is what I did. At first I had left the heat shield over the elbow pipe and it looked like crap. So I got some header wrap, removed the rest of the heat shield, and wraped that pipe (bc it is so close to the clam). I have had no issues thus far with the entire heat shield removed and have read an endless amount of threads here with the same results. Removing the heat shield from the elbow pipe was very time consuming for me using tin snipes and cutting off a little at a time. Maybe some one else can chime in with an easier way. Anyways here is my final results. __________________ 2005 Starlight Black Biscuit Interior // Hard Top // Von Hep Exhaust // Von Hep Rear Delete // Full Heat Shield Removed // Fujita CAI // Rota Torque Wheels W/ Toyo R1R's // ForceFed Carbon Fiber Splitter // Carbon Fiber Engine lid cover // LidBone // JL Audio VR525-CXi Front and Rear // Micro Mirror // Painted interior bits // Bling Buttons // Darth Holder

04-04-2009, 06:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
thegoat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 470	Agreed. Take it all off. I didn't have to cut anything when I took mine. Maybe you missed a bolt somewhere? __________________ 2009 White w/ Carbon Birkin Super 7 (on order) 2001 Silver Honda Civic Ex (daily driver) ----------- 2006 Polar Blue Exige - Sold 2006 Chrome Orange Elise - Sold 2000 Porsche Boxster - Sold

04-04-2009, 07:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 217	It does look very clean with all the shielding off. Don't you have heat problems inside your trunk? __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

04-04-2009, 08:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
thegoat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 470	No, no issues. After removing the heat shielding, you will see that there is a secondary heat shielding/insulation on the underside of the wall between the exhaust and the trunk. I would leave that in. While I don't hang out in the trunk to see how hot it gets, the milk stays cold on the ride home. __________________ 2009 White w/ Carbon Birkin Super 7 (on order) 2001 Silver Honda Civic Ex (daily driver) ----------- 2006 Polar Blue Exige - Sold 2006 Chrome Orange Elise - Sold 2000 Porsche Boxster - Sold

04-04-2009, 02:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
V-RAPTOR STARLIGHT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NOVA (Winchester) Posts: 645	Same here no heat problems in the trunk. Car runs a couple degrees cooler also. __________________ 2005 Starlight Black Biscuit Interior // Hard Top // Von Hep Exhaust // Von Hep Rear Delete // Full Heat Shield Removed // Fujita CAI // Rota Torque Wheels W/ Toyo R1R's // ForceFed Carbon Fiber Splitter // Carbon Fiber Engine lid cover // LidBone // JL Audio VR525-CXi Front and Rear // Micro Mirror // Painted interior bits // Bling Buttons // Darth Holder

04-04-2009, 04:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 217	You guys inspired me. Ripped that darn heat sheild completely out. Did leave the U tube cover for now. Thanks for the advise. Attached Images __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

04-04-2009, 05:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Darkside Eng Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: On the Track Posts: 880 Images: 22	umm... I cut mine so that I left the top piece so whatever i had in the trunk would not cook. I took off that ugly U tube cover and wrapped it. As you can see my wrap is fading already, you should go with a high performance wrap, unlike i did.

04-12-2009, 03:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
Z-dculus Derriere Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US OF A! Posts: 2,308	can someone inventory all the bolts that will need to come out to get the heat shield off? does the exhaust need to be off also? I may do this.....but want to be able to return to stock __________________ 2006 KG-Sport Pack, LSD, TC, SS, RAC Monolites, Sector CF Roof, Carbon 3 Element Diffuser, V3 Panel eliminator (p-coated), Odyssey PC680, Boomerang , HIDs, CF Console, Multivex, Lotus Stage II, CF Zoom Rear View, Sector LidBone, Darth Holder (thanks Kestrel!), Sector 4Tress Harness Bar/CRD Mount, couple exige trim pieces- KGB Authenticated 2009 VeeDub Jetta (new kid on the block) 1978 Chevrolet Caprice Classic -(relegated to 'project car' status)

04-12-2009, 03:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 217	Six or seven black 8mm bolts. Need to take out the exhaust and rear panel. I was able to get the complete, un-cut shield out without removing the cat. Also want to return to stock if needed. U-tube cover requires removal of sensor or cutting. __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

04-12-2009, 04:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Z-dculus Derriere Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US OF A! Posts: 2,308	awesome thanks for the quick response. are they all under the car or are some inside the trunk? __________________ 2006 KG-Sport Pack, LSD, TC, SS, RAC Monolites, Sector CF Roof, Carbon 3 Element Diffuser, V3 Panel eliminator (p-coated), Odyssey PC680, Boomerang , HIDs, CF Console, Multivex, Lotus Stage II, CF Zoom Rear View, Sector LidBone, Darth Holder (thanks Kestrel!), Sector 4Tress Harness Bar/CRD Mount, couple exige trim pieces- KGB Authenticated 2009 VeeDub Jetta (new kid on the block) 1978 Chevrolet Caprice Classic -(relegated to 'project car' status)

04-12-2009, 04:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 217	all heat sheild bolts are under the car. top mounting bolts for the rear panel are in the trunk __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

04-12-2009, 04:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
Z-dculus Derriere Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US OF A! Posts: 2,308	great thanks a lot man........we're getting naked! __________________ 2006 KG-Sport Pack, LSD, TC, SS, RAC Monolites, Sector CF Roof, Carbon 3 Element Diffuser, V3 Panel eliminator (p-coated), Odyssey PC680, Boomerang , HIDs, CF Console, Multivex, Lotus Stage II, CF Zoom Rear View, Sector LidBone, Darth Holder (thanks Kestrel!), Sector 4Tress Harness Bar/CRD Mount, couple exige trim pieces- KGB Authenticated 2009 VeeDub Jetta (new kid on the block) 1978 Chevrolet Caprice Classic -(relegated to 'project car' status)

04-12-2009, 04:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
MNlotus 06 elise Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: apple valley MN Posts: 793	yeah i think i need to trim more off my rear. there is still some right next to the tip and right by the u bend Attached Images __________________ 2006 Lotus Elise-way too many mods to list (k24 swap planned. 300+whp) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjIcCsvhWvY 2003 Caterham Super Seven DeDion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ysO...e=channel_page

04-12-2009, 04:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
elisesile Also, my rug was stolen. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 217	BTW: I was worried about not having any heatshielding, but as others on this thread have noted, no problem. Took the car to track day Friday with no heating problems. Coolant temp as measured by the dash indicator is about 5 degrees cooler than before removal. Makes sense I guess because there is now air flow possible through that area. Completely enclosed before. __________________ 05 Lotus Elise S/T 06 Porsche Carrera S Coupe - for hauling kids and luggage

06-19-2009, 10:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
stinkyonion Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oak Brook, IL Posts: 230 Images: 2	Took all mine off also, no wrap. No problems. __________________ 2006 polar blue Elise, VF stage II, clam hinge, von Hep exhaust, HID, Zeitronix/Dashdaq (GPS, wideband O2, EGT, fuel+oil pressure), BWR fuel rail, moroso oil pan, HD SS clutch, RTV brace, green wire mod, harnesses, Oddysey 625, alpine pdx-5, jvc avx77 head unit, jl speakers, voltmeter on dash, custom gauge pod, etc.

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06-19-2009, 12:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
breinhar Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poconos Posts: 398	I cut mine just above the bend on the main sheild so that the trunk was still protected. So far I have been fine. I wrapped my u joint and even with the wrap the side of the clam gets quite hot (not enough for me to be concerned) after a good drive or track day. But I am also s/c. __________________ "I think a Ferrari is a scaled down version of..... God"