TRD High Flow Air Filter Air Box - Page 3 - LotusTalk

Jack · 03-27-2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpRAnGia

Ok... you guys are confusing me...

Can someone please summarize with correct info to Where can I buy them and who to ask?...

See post #5.....it's no fair not reading all the posts in this thread.

Jack · 03-27-2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shay2nak

that's true. Your car has 440s, right? I heard it's a lot of work to change the fuel pump. I'm running kind of lean right now with the stock box and green filter even with the 440s maxed out via Gotham. If I get the cup airbox, it will lean it out even further, that's why I'm talking about 550s. Are you guys absolutely sure stepping up to 550s will require uprated fuel pump?

Ara,

I really don't know -- I've heard it both ways... 1) that they are the same and 2) that the 255 injectors are larger than the ones that were in the Cup240. FWIW, I do know that the Lotus replacement part # for injectors in the 255 is different than the 240.

As for just going to larger injectors to increase fuel delivery, at a certain point the fuel pump capacity will be your limiting factor. And, with the Gotham re-flash opening the TB to virtually its full capacity, I think you're already there, especially under circumstances calling for almost continuous WOT operation (read...track duty).

I know that Frank went to a larger fuel pump -- isn't he running 550's??

TRD_Sports_M · 04-11-2008, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackzi

Lotus Sport describes this item for the S2 SC Exige as follows: "TRD airbox designed to fit in conjunction with high flow air filter, improved flow characteristics for released engine response."

Anyone using this air box on their supercharged Exige? Care to comment?

So this is the filter you metioned? From the picture it look like an Air filter for Celica. A TRD filter will be in red.

hackzi · 04-11-2008, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRD_Sports_M

So this is the filter you metioned? From the picture it look like an Air filter for Celica. A TRD filter will be in red.

If you look at the Lotus Sport brochure, the "TRD Performance Air filter" listed in there is red.

CalBears92 · 04-11-2008, 09:18 AM

My understanding is that we need a Warlboro 255 pump to feed the 550cc injectors.

Also, you can get the cup airbox from Alan @ BH for around $215.

If you get it from my 'friend' who gave me a 'special buddy deal', he'll give it to you for $350. But you don't pay tax

Pestodude · 04-11-2008, 09:26 AM

Wouldn't the ECU detect more airflow and adjust to keep the fuel/ air mix the same as stock, thereby negating any gains from the high flow airbox?

TOPGUN750 · 04-11-2008, 09:28 AM

Has anyone measured for performance gains on Exige S (stock software) with this filter/airbox combo?

That filter looks like what our cars should come with - easy to clean/reusable and higher air flow.

bli8 · 04-11-2008, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalBears92

If you get it from my 'friend' who gave me a 'special buddy deal', he'll give it to you for $350. But you don't pay tax

shay2nak · 04-24-2008, 01:42 PM

cup air filter: TRD PTR05-06990-01

Cup air filter: Green Filter P/N 2093 from 2001 Toyota Avalon 3L V6 - $85

Also used in 2002 Lexus RX330, 2002 Toyota Avalon, 2002 Toyota Solara

EricH · 06-06-2008, 05:30 PM

Just for some more datapoints - found that the high flow airfilter (to be used with the Cup style airbox) is the same filter as used in:

2004 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2003 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2003 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.4L L4 F/I - All
2003 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2003 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2003 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2002 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2002 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.4L L4 F/I - All
2002 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2002 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2002 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2001 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2001 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.2L L4 F/I - All
2001 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2001 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2001 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All
2001 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2001 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2001 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2000 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2000 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.2L L4 F/I - All
2000 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2000 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2000 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All
2000 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2000 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
2000 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1999 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1999 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.2L L4 F/I - All
1999 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1999 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1999 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All
1999 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1999 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1999 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1998 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1998 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1998 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All
1998 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1998 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1997 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1997 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All
1997 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All
1997 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All

Air filter brands and part numbers:
K&N part number - 33-2145-1
TRD high flow filter part number - PTR05-06990-01
Cup air filter: Green Filter part number - 2093
Lotus High Flow Air Filter part number - ALS3E0158F

Non-'high flow' -
AC - A1286C
FRAM - CA7351
NAPA - 6017
PURO - A24690
TOYOTA - 1780103010
WIX - 46017

Stock vs Larger size: (is the larger not almost 2.5x the surface area?)
Stock -
Height: 1.26 in (32 mm)
Outside Length: 10.512 in (267 mm)
Outside Width: 4.213 in (107 mm)

Larger (part numbers listed above) -
Height: 1.125 in (29 mm)
Outside Length: 12.125 in (308 mm)
Outside Width: 7.25 in (184 mm)

The air filter box:
Finally to summarize the previous notes in this thread - the Cup style airbox that houses the larger than stock filters listed above are only available from Lotus (not TRD, there is no single Toyota part that makes up this airbox). Lotus part number ALS3E0157F

Ok, did I get that right?

shay2nak · 06-06-2008, 08:53 PM

cup airbox is on back order for another week.

EricH · 07-01-2008, 08:10 PM

This thread metions a gap that needs to be sealed between the 'clean' side of the stock airbox and the adapter plate to the larger box. Anyone here install this and get a gasket with it?
Notes on Cup Airbox install...

shay2nak · 07-05-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH

This thread metions a gap that needs to be sealed between the 'clean' side of the stock airbox and the adapter plate to the larger box. Anyone here install this and get a gasket with it?
Notes on Cup Airbox install...

i'm still waiting on mine, but it's only 2 pieces. the larger part of the box and the adapter.

EricH · 07-10-2008, 04:20 PM

Here is another new post, they also sealed the gap and there are good pics too (Thanks Johnny B!):
Don't Change Your Super Charger Pulley!

Johnny B · 07-10-2008, 08:06 PM

Glad to help out.

choi0706 · 07-10-2008, 09:32 PM

yup, thanks for the pics John.. I have just confirmed its the airbox used on supercharged scion TCs..

page 34
http://www.trdsparks.com/install/PTR01-21050-90inst.pdf

Check out page 35, does lotus also toss in that trumpet?

Johnny B · 07-10-2008, 10:25 PM

Lotus doesn't include the trumpet.

I do think it's a good idea to use RTV to make a gasket between the stock upper box and the adapter plate.

shay2nak · 07-14-2008, 06:38 PM

I got my airbox last week and I just ordered the green filter. It's 2 pieces like everyone says. It's even pictured in the Lotus Sport parts catalog. Not sure when I'm going to install mine though...maybe next oil change.

EricH · 07-15-2008, 05:09 PM

I got mine yesterday, finally looked at it today. For those of you that have installed (I don't have my car yet - so I can't compare to the original) - these are the parts that I got, one of them is broken - do I use all of these brackets or do I need to ask for it to be replaced?

See IMG_2511.JPG near the lower right for a closeup of the broken part, it is the smallest piece with a silver pin it in. Also covered by the adapter ring is another pin that is on the box that seems to have one of its mounts broken off.

choi0706 · 07-15-2008, 05:11 PM

04-11-2008, 09:18 AM	#45 (permalink)
CalBears92 Monkey Tuned! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 491 Images: 3	My understanding is that we need a Warlboro 255 pump to feed the 550cc injectors. Also, you can get the cup airbox from Alan @ BH for around $215. If you get it from my 'friend' who gave me a 'special buddy deal', he'll give it to you for $350. But you don't pay tax __________________ It's MISTER Black Flag Currently sporting a pink big toe

04-11-2008, 09:26 AM	#46 (permalink)
Pestodude '07 Black Exige S Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 474	Wouldn't the ECU detect more airflow and adjust to keep the fuel/ air mix the same as stock, thereby negating any gains from the high flow airbox? __________________ Randy '07 Phntm Blk Exige S. Proalloy chargecooler, RLS IC tubes, Sector RTD brace, ForcedFed engine dampener, de-snorkle/ vel stack, cf side scoops/ mesh removed, algnmnt set up by Lucent in LA (machined control arms, etc), SS brake lines, 160 deg. thermo, Sector and "Stan's" shifter mod, "Stan's" clutch pedal mod, Voltphreaks 4.5lb battery, Stealth signal bulbs, blacked out turn side markers, 5 point harness

04-11-2008, 09:28 AM	#47 (permalink)
TOPGUN750 Carpe Diem Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 589	Has anyone measured for performance gains on Exige S (stock software) with this filter/airbox combo? That filter looks like what our cars should come with - easy to clean/reusable and higher air flow. __________________ Justin 2007 Exige S: Laser Blue + Touring + Track Pack + Traction Control + Convertible Conversion + Carbon Fiber Console and HVAC surround + Aluminum Carpet Buttons + Toybox Hethel Wheels + Goodyear F1 Rubber + Ekological HID 2005 Elise (#267 Traded): Ardent Red/Black + Touring + Hardtop + Hurricane HID + JL Audio Stealthbox & Sub + Lanzar Opti 4x400D Amp + Alpine Type S & R speakers + iPod Hardwired 2001 Audi S4: Sold but not forgotten

04-24-2008, 01:42 PM	#49 (permalink)
shay2nak GGM ENFORCER Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of da 1000 Oaks, CA Posts: 12,748	cup air filter: TRD PTR05-06990-01 Cup air filter: Green Filter P/N 2093 from 2001 Toyota Avalon 3L V6 - $85 Also used in 2002 Lexus RX330, 2002 Toyota Avalon, 2002 Toyota Solara __________________ save ~10 lbs gain 1 hp EQ: Y=(190X) / (1984-X) where Y is (HP) and X is (lbs) '07 GG EXIGE S * MY CAR ** VIDEO CLIPS! '08 ACURA TSX 6-speed http://www.makeNYNYagain.com Last edited by shay2nak : 04-24-2008 at 01:48 PM.

06-06-2008, 05:30 PM	#50 (permalink)
EricH Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 274	Just for some more datapoints - found that the high flow airfilter (to be used with the Cup style airbox) is the same filter as used in: 2004 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2003 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2003 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.4L L4 F/I - All 2003 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2003 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2003 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2002 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2002 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.4L L4 F/I - All 2002 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2002 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2002 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2001 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2001 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.2L L4 F/I - All 2001 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2001 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2001 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All 2001 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2001 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2001 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2000 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2000 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.2L L4 F/I - All 2000 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2000 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2000 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All 2000 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2000 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 2000 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1999 TOYOTA SOLARA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1999 TOYOTA SOLARA 2.2L L4 F/I - All 1999 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1999 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1999 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All 1999 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1999 LEXUS RX300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1999 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1998 TOYOTA SIENNA 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1998 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1998 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All 1998 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1998 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1997 TOYOTA CAMRY 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1997 TOYOTA CAMRY 2.2L L4 F/I - All 1997 TOYOTA AVALON 3.0L V6 F/I - All 1997 LEXUS ES300 3.0L V6 F/I - All Air filter brands and part numbers: K&N part number - 33-2145-1 TRD high flow filter part number - PTR05-06990-01 Cup air filter: Green Filter part number - 2093 Lotus High Flow Air Filter part number - ALS3E0158F Non-'high flow' - AC - A1286C FRAM - CA7351 NAPA - 6017 PURO - A24690 TOYOTA - 1780103010 WIX - 46017 Stock vs Larger size: (is the larger not almost 2.5x the surface area?) Stock - Height: 1.26 in (32 mm) Outside Length: 10.512 in (267 mm) Outside Width: 4.213 in (107 mm) Larger (part numbers listed above) - Height: 1.125 in (29 mm) Outside Length: 12.125 in (308 mm) Outside Width: 7.25 in (184 mm) The air filter box: Finally to summarize the previous notes in this thread - the Cup style airbox that houses the larger than stock filters listed above are only available from Lotus (not TRD, there is no single Toyota part that makes up this airbox). Lotus part number ALS3E0157F Ok, did I get that right? __________________ Click links to see my '99 M3, 505rwhp '89 Mustang, '05 WRX STI ( sold), and 2008 Lotus Exige-S 240 homepages or here for my M3 vid (11MB) Last edited by EricH : 06-06-2008 at 08:04 PM. Reason: Found filter sizes

06-06-2008, 08:53 PM	#51 (permalink)
shay2nak GGM ENFORCER Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of da 1000 Oaks, CA Posts: 12,748	cup airbox is on back order for another week. __________________ save ~10 lbs gain 1 hp EQ: Y=(190X) / (1984-X) where Y is (HP) and X is (lbs) '07 GG EXIGE S * MY CAR ** VIDEO CLIPS! '08 ACURA TSX 6-speed http://www.makeNYNYagain.com

07-01-2008, 08:10 PM	#52 (permalink)
EricH Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 274	This thread metions a gap that needs to be sealed between the 'clean' side of the stock airbox and the adapter plate to the larger box. Anyone here install this and get a gasket with it? Notes on Cup Airbox install... __________________ Click links to see my '99 M3, 505rwhp '89 Mustang, '05 WRX STI ( sold), and 2008 Lotus Exige-S 240 homepages or here for my M3 vid (11MB)

07-10-2008, 04:20 PM	#54 (permalink)
EricH Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 274	Here is another new post, they also sealed the gap and there are good pics too (Thanks Johnny B!): Don't Change Your Super Charger Pulley! __________________ Click links to see my '99 M3, 505rwhp '89 Mustang, '05 WRX STI ( sold), and 2008 Lotus Exige-S 240 homepages or here for my M3 vid (11MB)

07-10-2008, 08:06 PM	#55 (permalink)
Johnny B No, it's not a Ford Lotus Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,611	Glad to help out. __________________

07-10-2008, 09:32 PM	#56 (permalink)
choi0706 gas, gas, gas, gas Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 3,722	yup, thanks for the pics John.. I have just confirmed its the airbox used on supercharged scion TCs.. page 34 http://www.trdsparks.com/install/PTR01-21050-90inst.pdf Check out page 35, does lotus also toss in that trumpet? __________________ Jay-05' ST, HT, Touring Red I have a theory that all.... Katana flags 9 VF flag 1

07-10-2008, 10:25 PM	#57 (permalink)
Johnny B No, it's not a Ford Lotus Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,611	Lotus doesn't include the trumpet. I do think it's a good idea to use RTV to make a gasket between the stock upper box and the adapter plate. __________________

07-14-2008, 06:38 PM	#58 (permalink)
shay2nak GGM ENFORCER Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of da 1000 Oaks, CA Posts: 12,748	I got my airbox last week and I just ordered the green filter. It's 2 pieces like everyone says. It's even pictured in the Lotus Sport parts catalog. Not sure when I'm going to install mine though...maybe next oil change. __________________ save ~10 lbs gain 1 hp EQ: Y=(190X) / (1984-X) where Y is (HP) and X is (lbs) '07 GG EXIGE S * MY CAR ** VIDEO CLIPS! '08 ACURA TSX 6-speed http://www.makeNYNYagain.com

07-15-2008, 05:09 PM	#59 (permalink)
EricH Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 274	I got mine yesterday, finally looked at it today. For those of you that have installed (I don't have my car yet - so I can't compare to the original) - these are the parts that I got, one of them is broken - do I use all of these brackets or do I need to ask for it to be replaced? See IMG_2511.JPG near the lower right for a closeup of the broken part, it is the smallest piece with a silver pin it in. Also covered by the adapter ring is another pin that is on the box that seems to have one of its mounts broken off. Attached Images __________________ Click links to see my '99 M3, 505rwhp '89 Mustang, '05 WRX STI ( sold), and 2008 Lotus Exige-S 240 homepages or here for my M3 vid (11MB) Last edited by EricH : 07-25-2008 at 04:51 AM.

07-15-2008, 05:11 PM	#60 (permalink)
choi0706 gas, gas, gas, gas Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 3,722	redx __________________ Jay-05' ST, HT, Touring Red I have a theory that all.... Katana flags 9 VF flag 1

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