270PS upgrade kit from Lotus Sport - LotusTalk

HKFEVER · 10-12-2009, 09:50 PM

NEW 270PS Upgrade Kit1
Part No. - ALS3E0301F pre MY09 ALS3E0298F MY09
Application – Any supercharged 2-Eleven. Exige fitted with sequential gearbox

The 270PS Upgrade Kit not only increases the power and torque throughout the whole rev range improving throttle response and vehicle acceleration. The kit comprises of a high flow air filtration system and exhaust system as well as a smaller supercharger pulley, fuel pump, spark plugs and ECU with revised calibration. Additional components maybe required depending on model variant.

Anyone has idea how much this kit will cost?

Hello Kitty · 10-13-2009, 03:13 AM

266 hp

EricH · 10-13-2009, 05:01 AM

"exhaust system" = comes with header too. One that exits at stock location it seems?

ads_green · 10-13-2009, 05:14 AM

Lots. I did ask but it was several thousand pounds - I so have it scrubbed down somewhere but I think it was about 5k GBP.
It's more geared towards being specified at vehicle ordering and manufacture rather than an upgrade.

That being said it's quite involved and not just a simple ecu reflash.

basstwo · 10-13-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ads_green

Lots. I did ask but it was several thousand pounds - I so have it scrubbed down somewhere but I think it was about 5k GBP.
It's more geared towards being specified at vehicle ordering and manufacture rather than an upgrade.

That being said it's quite involved and not just a simple ecu reflash.

Seems to suggest that you must also fit the sequential gearbox too which is a separate purchase.

ads_green · 10-13-2009, 08:24 AM

No need for the sequential box and it is fine on it's own. It's just lotus know that offering it as a kit in the volumes they'd be looking at will make it very expensive. However fitting it during construction bring the labour costs right down and makes it cheaper.

That being said lotus will sell it separately of you want to pay the price for it. Apparently it's not all about the headline peak bhp but low down is transformed.

basstwo · 10-13-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ads_green

No need for the sequential box and it is fine on it's own. It's just lotus know that offering it as a kit in the volumes they'd be looking at will make it very expensive. However fitting it during construction bring the labour costs right down and makes it cheaper.

That being said lotus will sell it separately of you want to pay the price for it. Apparently it's not all about the headline peak bhp but low down is transformed.

Interesting... I wonder how it compares with the Gotham tune which is what I have and the throttle response is already much better than the stock S240 especially in lower RPMs and the mid range torque improvement is quite noticeable. The Gotham tune makes the stock seemed sluggish (OK I'm exaggerating a little - it's not actually sluggish) in comparison.

Just saw some prices Lotus Sports is asking for the various Carbon bits.... boy they are quite expensive compared to what you can get from quite a few aftermarket shops... maybe there is a quality difference ???

Vishus_1 · 10-13-2009, 10:19 AM

I am amused that part of this includes a smaller supercharger pulley. I have read many comments on the forum from those who felt a smaller pulley would hurt the long term reliability of the supercharger from a mechanical stand point. If that is true, I don't think the additional parts of this kit negate that. Would it?

TTZip · 10-13-2009, 11:17 AM

Since there is also a fuel pump included and a new tune then you shouldn't have a problem running higher boost with a smaller pulley since you will be able to keep up with the fuel.

Picture below for anyone who doesn't want to go looking through PDF files.

ads_green · 10-13-2009, 11:40 AM

The carbon bits are expensive however they are only 10% more than the replacement GRP parts (well, the 211 anyway).

Vishus_1 · 10-13-2009, 11:59 AM

Where are you seeing this information? And where are the carbon bits listed you are referring to?

Thanks

robains · 10-13-2009, 12:07 PM

Gearbox looks interesting, any chance I can get more details on that?

Rob

funS111 · 10-13-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by robains

Gearbox looks interesting, any chance I can get more details on that?

Rob

Yes more info on that would be great!

TTZip · 10-13-2009, 12:35 PM

Sorry the above was all I was able to pull out of the Lotus PDF.

Bender Unit · 10-13-2009, 12:54 PM

New Lotus Sport Brochure
http://www.grouplotus.com/staticfile..._ebrochure.pdf

Demonized · 10-13-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by robains

Gearbox looks interesting, any chance I can get more details on that?

Rob

It's near $30,000

ads_green · 10-13-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by robains

Gearbox looks interesting, any chance I can get more details on that?

Rob

IIRC it's a Sadev 6 speed dog sequential.
Yes the box is 18k GBP on it's own.
You then need to factor in the extras and the software to drive the full throttle clutchless changes (as it rev matches)

So 30k USD isn't far out.

However this is a pure out and out race unit - it will need an awful amount of love and care to keep it going with frequent rebuilds and its a brutal if satisfying shift. It'd drive you mad on the street.

If you are a serious racer then sure, its worth the time and expense but even for a dedicated track toy its an overkill.

ads_green · 10-13-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vishus_1

Where are you seeing this information? And where are the carbon bits listed you are referring to?

Thanks

The carbon panels are only briefly mentioned.
To be honest, the best thing is to call Russel at Lotus Motorsport - he's a top guy and will give you the honest view on the bits - I called him with effectively a blank cheque and he spent most of the tie saying "to be honest, you don't need that".
It's where I got all the info from. Also not all the brochure options are available worldwide so you'd need to check anyway.

robains · 10-13-2009, 03:17 PM

July 2011 (smog time) is when I decide what I do with my Lotus, get serious or leave it for street. I've had some limited experience with squentials and I've got a good amount of "serious" club racing experience under my belt (guess it's time to post some of my racing videos).

What was his reason for "you don't need that"? -- some of the pro-Racers I've had the opportunity to talk to over the years have indicated the sequential box alone dropped 2-3 seconds a lap. But they are Pro racers vs. club racers, so 30K for club racing "might" be overkill, for HPDE type stuff not worth it at all.

Rob

shay2nak · 10-13-2009, 10:31 PM

interesting with that whole package the power is only 270hp.

10-12-2009, 09:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
HKFEVER Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 314	270PS upgrade kit from Lotus Sport NEW 270PS Upgrade Kit1 Part No. - ALS3E0301F pre MY09 ALS3E0298F MY09 Application – Any supercharged 2-Eleven. Exige fitted with sequential gearbox The 270PS Upgrade Kit not only increases the power and torque throughout the whole rev range improving throttle response and vehicle acceleration. The kit comprises of a high flow air filtration system and exhaust system as well as a smaller supercharger pulley, fuel pump, spark plugs and ECU with revised calibration. Additional components maybe required depending on model variant. Anyone has idea how much this kit will cost? __________________ 2008 Exige S Sport in HK (S240) almost stock.

10-13-2009, 05:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
EricH Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 621	"exhaust system" = comes with header too. One that exits at stock location it seems? __________________ Click links to see my 2008 Lotus Exige-S 240 , '99 M3, 505rwhp '89 Mustang ( sold) , '05 WRX STI ( sold) homepages or here for my M3 vid (11MB)

10-13-2009, 10:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
Vishus_1 Super charged! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,038 Images: 62	I am amused that part of this includes a smaller supercharger pulley. I have read many comments on the forum from those who felt a smaller pulley would hurt the long term reliability of the supercharger from a mechanical stand point. If that is true, I don't think the additional parts of this kit negate that. Would it? __________________ 2009 Exige 260 SPORT - Chrome Orange / Carbon Fiber / Black with the mustache Purchased through St Louis Motorsports

10-13-2009, 11:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
Vishus_1 Super charged! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,038 Images: 62	Where are you seeing this information? And where are the carbon bits listed you are referring to? Thanks __________________ 2009 Exige 260 SPORT - Chrome Orange / Carbon Fiber / Black with the mustache Purchased through St Louis Motorsports

10-13-2009, 12:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
robains 2007 Exige S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 1,820	Gearbox looks interesting, any chance I can get more details on that? Rob __________________ '07 Exige S (Track Pack & LSD) + EFi 550ci injectors + Mahle 9:1 + DRS Port + SuperTech Valves + Weapon R Header + 2.9" pully + TODA Clutch + FF Engine Damper + RLS IC + Greddy catch cans + opened roof slot + RTD brace + Milled steering arms + Larini 8" + FF air intake + Moroso oil pan + Ultradisc 2 piece front/rear + Reverie 1650mm wing + ReVerie front splitter + IQ3 Dash + 4pt ASM + Pioneer AVIC-N2 nav + rear camera + RAC monolites 888s 195/225 + Lotus LSS Hoosier R6 205/225 @ 1921 lbs

10-13-2009, 03:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hello Kitty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 567	266 hp

10-13-2009, 05:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
ads_green Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 361	Lots. I did ask but it was several thousand pounds - I so have it scrubbed down somewhere but I think it was about 5k GBP. It's more geared towards being specified at vehicle ordering and manufacture rather than an upgrade. That being said it's quite involved and not just a simple ecu reflash.

10-13-2009, 08:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
ads_green Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 361	No need for the sequential box and it is fine on it's own. It's just lotus know that offering it as a kit in the volumes they'd be looking at will make it very expensive. However fitting it during construction bring the labour costs right down and makes it cheaper. That being said lotus will sell it separately of you want to pay the price for it. Apparently it's not all about the headline peak bhp but low down is transformed.

10-13-2009, 11:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
TTZip Alienoid Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 242	Since there is also a fuel pump included and a new tune then you shouldn't have a problem running higher boost with a smaller pulley since you will be able to keep up with the fuel. Picture below for anyone who doesn't want to go looking through PDF files.

10-13-2009, 11:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
ads_green Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 361	The carbon bits are expensive however they are only 10% more than the replacement GRP parts (well, the 211 anyway).

10-13-2009, 12:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
TTZip Alienoid Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 242	Sorry the above was all I was able to pull out of the Lotus PDF.

10-13-2009, 12:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bender Unit RS member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 162	New Lotus Sport Brochure http://www.grouplotus.com/staticfile..._ebrochure.pdf

10-13-2009, 03:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
robains 2007 Exige S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 1,820	July 2011 (smog time) is when I decide what I do with my Lotus, get serious or leave it for street. I've had some limited experience with squentials and I've got a good amount of "serious" club racing experience under my belt (guess it's time to post some of my racing videos). What was his reason for "you don't need that"? -- some of the pro-Racers I've had the opportunity to talk to over the years have indicated the sequential box alone dropped 2-3 seconds a lap. But they are Pro racers vs. club racers, so 30K for club racing "might" be overkill, for HPDE type stuff not worth it at all. Rob __________________ '07 Exige S (Track Pack & LSD) + EFi 550ci injectors + Mahle 9:1 + DRS Port + SuperTech Valves + Weapon R Header + 2.9" pully + TODA Clutch + FF Engine Damper + RLS IC + Greddy catch cans + opened roof slot + RTD brace + Milled steering arms + Larini 8" + FF air intake + Moroso oil pan + Ultradisc 2 piece front/rear + Reverie 1650mm wing + ReVerie front splitter + IQ3 Dash + 4pt ASM + Pioneer AVIC-N2 nav + rear camera + RAC monolites 888s 195/225 + Lotus LSS Hoosier R6 205/225 @ 1921 lbs

10-13-2009, 10:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
shay2nak I <3 chicken, I <3 liver Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Land of da 1000 Oaks, CA Posts: 15,058	interesting with that whole package the power is only 270hp. __________________ save ~10 lbs gain 1 hp EQ: Y=(190X) / (1984-X) where Y is (HP) and X is (lbs) '07 EXIGE S * MY CAR ** VIDEOS! '08 ACURA TSX 6-speed http://www.makeNYNYagain.com

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