gross vehicle weight 2600? - LotusTalk

crazyhandles · 06-07-2008, 06:22 PM

so im reading the little label on the door that includes the vin and some facts about my exige s. i noticed it said gross vehicle weight to be 2600lbs. i thought the exige weighed in at 2000lbs

Scrumpot · 06-07-2008, 06:27 PM

No way. Certificate of Origin on my car shows exact "shipping weight": 2,011lbs. You sure you're not looking at the max load rating for the tires or something?

andykeck · 06-07-2008, 06:48 PM

Gross weight is the maximum fully loaded weight. Fuel + driver + passenger + luggage.

ZAMMY1 · 06-07-2008, 06:50 PM

plus smiles.

sam

Sideoiler · 06-08-2008, 08:57 AM

GVW is your max weight fully loaded. Net is just the car, usually "wet" which includes fluids, curb weight.

Conan · 06-09-2008, 07:33 AM

Gross vehicle weight is the max weight of the vehicle and all passengers and cargo. Net or curb weight is the actual weight of the vehicle only (2006 Elise = 1980 lbs.)

Hurray for repetition!

xtn · 06-09-2008, 09:01 AM

Something else to consider is that Gross Weight is the max loaded weight. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that yet.

xtn

LARRY · 06-09-2008, 09:55 AM

Gross weight is when you have a really fat ugly passenger.

Bgwilly31 · 06-09-2008, 10:00 AM

How much does 10 gallons of fuel weigh?

If a driver weighed 250. A passenger weighed 250.

500lbs.

+ Fuel

+you could easily put close 100lbs of (misc.) or one heavy object in the bonnet.

I could see it possible passing that mark by accident. Its not like the car would fall off the wheels......

right?

EdHahn · 06-09-2008, 11:23 AM

10 gals of fuel = 67 pounds.

ed

serpent · 06-09-2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LARRY

Gross weight is when you have a really fat ugly passenger.

LOL....

twinky64 · 09-08-2008, 01:39 AM

so I'm kind of new here so if you could just bear with me please......

I'm looking to purchase an Exige. Somebody mentioned that their net vehicle weight is 2000-2100lbs. I currently drive a 1998 Toyota Corolla with a curb weight of 2426lbs(edmunds.com). Has anybody ever wondered why the Exige weighs so much? Let me elaborate:

Corolla chassis is steel. Exige chassis is ~150lbs made of aluminum
Corolla has a 1.8 all aluminum block and head. Exige is "..." but lets add +200lbs for safe measure
Corolla is taller with 7 out of 11 panels made of aluminum. Exige is mostly ABS plastic. (I think, please correct me if I'm wrong)
Corolla has plushy seats. Exige has thin and small seats
Corolla has ..........etc. etc.

Now imagine cutting out a slice of the corolla and rewelding it together. Omit back seats, seat belts, carpet, floorpan, steel chassis, spare tire, doors and other body(interior and exterior) panels respectively. I think its net loss will be around if not more than 400lbs in lost weight.
Now replace the steel chassis with bonded aluminum, replace roof with fabric or plastic or which ever material will be used for the roof, take out center console, some dash board, replace seats with ultra thin leathers, etc.

I suppose my question is: Where is all the weight of the Exige coming from?
My theorized numbers: 150 for chassis. 600 everything under bonnet. 100 for interior. 200 for body panels. 300 for other things I'm missing. Lets inflate the result and say, the car should weigh 1500lbs i would think?

I'm sorry if I'm blaspheming in any way. I'm a fan of lotus and toyota

ferndoc · 09-08-2008, 09:35 AM

On some vehicles the gross weight is intended to relay the maximum total weight the car can safely tolerate.

Do we have to wear a bonnet, and will it clear the roof?

xtn · 09-08-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinky64

I'm looking to purchase an Exige. Somebody mentioned that their net vehicle weight is 2000-2100lbs. I currently drive a 1998 Toyota Corolla with a curb weight of 2426lbs(edmunds.com). Has anybody ever wondered why the Exige weighs so much?

Just a guess, but edmunds.com reported curb weight is probably the basest model Corolla sans air conditioning and stuff. Does it have a passeneger side airbag? What is the rotational stiffness of the chassis? Although the body panels extend higher for the taller Corolla, do they also extend as close to the ground? Is there a built in roll-over bar? Does it have under-body panels? External oil coolers? Radiator mounted at the opposite end from the engine? One hundred and ninety horsepower? Inner fender liners? A 4'x8' sheet of plywood sized rear view mirror?

I'm still with you; I think the Exige/Elise weigh too much. But just pointing out a few items I can think of to help answer your question.

xtn

PhlypSide · 09-08-2008, 10:00 AM

zOMG this discussion is still happening. People please look up the definition of "Gross Vehicle Weight" and settle down. (I was considering saying "settle down Beavis", oh wait I just did.)

Conan · 09-08-2008, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtn

Just a guess, but edmunds.com reported curb weight is probably the basest model Corolla sans air conditioning and stuff. Does it have a passeneger side airbag? What is the rotational stiffness of the chassis? Although the body panels extend higher for the taller Corolla, do they also extend as close to the ground? Is there a built in roll-over bar? Does it have under-body panels? External oil coolers? Radiator mounted at the opposite end from the engine? One hundred and ninety horsepower? Inner fender liners? A 4'x8' sheet of plywood sized rear view mirror?

I'm still with you; I think the Exige/Elise weigh too much. But just pointing out a few items I can think of to help answer your question.

xtn

not to mention the Lotus' steel rear subframe that has been galvanized. And he's asking about the new Exige -- supercharger and intercooler add something like 60 lbs, yes?

400 lbs is A LOT of weight. That's 20% additional mass over the Lotus.

agirls · 09-08-2008, 10:21 AM

Can two 250lb people fit in the car?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bgwilly31

How much does 10 gallons of fuel weigh?

If a driver weighed 250. A passenger weighed 250.

500lbs.

+ Fuel

+you could easily put close 100lbs of (misc.) or one heavy object in the bonnet.

I could see it possible passing that mark by accident. Its not like the car would fall off the wheels......

right?

Shorty111R · 09-08-2008, 11:28 AM

Body is fiberglass, not ABS.

Right?

Laurie1027 · 09-08-2008, 02:27 PM

I had a coworker today tell me that his 07 mustang gt weighs 2000lbs

Monsi · 09-08-2008, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laurie1027

I had a coworker today tell me that his 07 mustang gt weighs 2000lbs

perhaps he was refering to his gas cap?

06-07-2008, 06:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
crazyhandles Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 35	gross vehicle weight 2600? so im reading the little label on the door that includes the vin and some facts about my exige s. i noticed it said gross vehicle weight to be 2600lbs. i thought the exige weighed in at 2000lbs

06-07-2008, 06:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scrumpot Live on the edge Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 353	No way. Certificate of Origin on my car shows exact "shipping weight": 2,011lbs. You sure you're not looking at the max load rating for the tires or something? __________________ '08 Exige-S Club Racer Desnorkelled, Stage-2, HID's, DRL Defeat, Sector111 Tow-hook & Fire Extinguisher, Deeply Fettled Roof S/C Air Intake, Schroth Prof II ASM 4pt Harnesses

06-07-2008, 06:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
ZAMMY1 ZAMMY Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: washington, pa, (near PGH.) Posts: 1,215	plus smiles. sam __________________ Sam Mayberry, W3CYO/R, resident curmudgeon. aspen white '06 elise, now with hinged rear clam! nice! youtube: sam's jet turbine scooter

06-09-2008, 07:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Conan with future lotus driver Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 1,829 Images: 24	Gross vehicle weight is the max weight of the vehicle and all passengers and cargo. Net or curb weight is the actual weight of the vehicle only (2006 Elise = 1980 lbs.) Hurray for repetition! __________________ "Driving involves 3 basic abilities: Accelerating, braking and turning. More power will only help acceleration. Lower weight helps all three." 2006 BRG Lotus Elise, 1986 Porsche 944spec race car, 2001 Chevy Silverado 6L 2500 HD (tow vehicle), 2007 Honda Odyssey (the wife's)

06-09-2008, 09:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
xtn McLareghini Bugatterrari Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 5,857	Something else to consider is that Gross Weight is the max loaded weight. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that yet. xtn __________________ 2006 McLareghini Bugatterrari, Storm Titanium... <mods> installed: air horn, Scroth 4-point ASM harnesses, Sector111 halon extinguisher and mounting bracket, Von Hep exhaust and rear panel delete, Pagid brake pads, red Volks CE28n wheels, Toyo RA-1 tires, Nitron SA coilovers, Sector111 (WorksBell) quick-disconnect steering wheel kit. awaiting installation: Scroth "pull-up" lap belts, Sector111 RTD Brace, Tony's heater bypass mod, and dropped steering rack mounting plates. </mods>

06-07-2008, 06:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
andykeck Detective Join Date: May 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,732 Images: 1	Gross weight is the maximum fully loaded weight. Fuel + driver + passenger + luggage.

06-08-2008, 08:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sideoiler Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 371	GVW is your max weight fully loaded. Net is just the car, usually "wet" which includes fluids, curb weight.

06-09-2008, 09:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 12,193	Gross weight is when you have a really fat ugly passenger. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Sports & Touring Packages, Hard Top, Stage II Exhaust, '07 Probax leather seats. Los Angeles Lotus Service by Qais at 310-200-0022. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)

06-09-2008, 10:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bgwilly31 Twisties Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincy, OH Posts: 1,202	How much does 10 gallons of fuel weigh? If a driver weighed 250. A passenger weighed 250. 500lbs. + Fuel +you could easily put close 100lbs of (misc.) or one heavy object in the bonnet. I could see it possible passing that mark by accident. Its not like the car would fall off the wheels...... right? __________________ -*Aspen White Exige S* 04' Lexus Turbo IS300 BSM "track car"--SOLD "Straight lines dont mean sh"

06-09-2008, 11:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
EdHahn Jugga Jigga Wugga Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,236	10 gals of fuel = 67 pounds. ed __________________ Magnetic Blue/LSS Delivered: 1/13/05

09-08-2008, 01:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
twinky64 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8	so I'm kind of new here so if you could just bear with me please...... I'm looking to purchase an Exige. Somebody mentioned that their net vehicle weight is 2000-2100lbs. I currently drive a 1998 Toyota Corolla with a curb weight of 2426lbs(edmunds.com). Has anybody ever wondered why the Exige weighs so much? Let me elaborate: Corolla chassis is steel. Exige chassis is ~150lbs made of aluminum Corolla has a 1.8 all aluminum block and head. Exige is "..." but lets add +200lbs for safe measure Corolla is taller with 7 out of 11 panels made of aluminum. Exige is mostly ABS plastic. (I think, please correct me if I'm wrong) Corolla has plushy seats. Exige has thin and small seats Corolla has ..........etc. etc. Now imagine cutting out a slice of the corolla and rewelding it together. Omit back seats, seat belts, carpet, floorpan, steel chassis, spare tire, doors and other body(interior and exterior) panels respectively. I think its net loss will be around if not more than 400lbs in lost weight. Now replace the steel chassis with bonded aluminum, replace roof with fabric or plastic or which ever material will be used for the roof, take out center console, some dash board, replace seats with ultra thin leathers, etc. I suppose my question is: Where is all the weight of the Exige coming from? My theorized numbers: 150 for chassis. 600 everything under bonnet. 100 for interior. 200 for body panels. 300 for other things I'm missing. Lets inflate the result and say, the car should weigh 1500lbs i would think? I'm sorry if I'm blaspheming in any way. I'm a fan of lotus and toyota

09-08-2008, 09:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
ferndoc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10	On some vehicles the gross weight is intended to relay the maximum total weight the car can safely tolerate. Do we have to wear a bonnet, and will it clear the roof?

09-08-2008, 11:28 AM	#18 (permalink)
Shorty111R MY car weighs 3166lbs Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 421	Body is fiberglass, not ABS. Right? __________________ "Any car which holds together for more than a race is too heavy" - Colin Chapman

09-08-2008, 02:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
Laurie1027 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 34	I had a coworker today tell me that his 07 mustang gt weighs 2000lbs __________________ 08 Laser Blue Elise

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