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sumolance · 06-25-2008, 10:17 AM

Does anybody know how much longer the current Elise/Exige is gonna be produced? Has there been any declaration of production termination? I wonder if it's gonna be the next Esprit.

Randy Chase · 06-25-2008, 10:25 AM

I think it was until 2011

LARRY · 06-25-2008, 11:03 AM

Get 'em while you can!

There will NEVER be another car like this one on the road...

sumolance · 06-25-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LARRY

Get 'em while you can!

There will NEVER be another car like this one on the road...

Mmmmm,...I think I will.

Lotus pulled a nice one considering dodging certain U.S. structural crash-standard loop-holing allowing us to have such an amazing plastic toy. I'm certain that future versions will have to succumb to large bumpers and weight penalties. Let's hope that they never put a Yaris or GM Cobalt engine in any of their chassis'.

ChrisB · 06-26-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sumolance

Mmmmm,...I think I will.

Lotus pulled a nice one considering dodging certain U.S. structural crash-standard loop-holing allowing us to have such an amazing plastic toy. I'm certain that future versions will have to succumb to large bumpers and weight penalties. Let's hope that they never put a Yaris or GM Cobalt engine in any of their chassis'.

Lotus did not dodge any structural crash test requirements. It had to pass all of them. For a couple years it received a waiver for the bumper regulations, which has nothing to do with safety, and the headlight requirements. Current models meet all requirements.

sumolance · 06-26-2008, 12:21 PM

(sigh..) By 'dodging' I was referring to the waiver, which in a sense, is like receiving a privilege when others have to conform. I knew I was gonna get a response like this; I remember a saying referring to arguing on the internet is like arguing in the Special Olympics....

Toad · 06-26-2008, 12:28 PM

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Let's hope that they never put a Yaris or GM Cobalt engine in any of their chassis'.

Whats wrong w the Ecotec LNF engine?

LARRY · 06-26-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sumolance

Mmmmm,...I think I will.

Lotus pulled a nice one considering dodging certain U.S. structural crash-standard loop-holing allowing us to have such an amazing plastic toy. I'm certain that future versions will have to succumb to large bumpers and weight penalties. Let's hope that they never put a Yaris or GM Cobalt engine in any of their chassis'.

I just can't believe that these Lotus cars are legal for sale.

They are so amazing on the road.

Phenomenal.

Randy Chase · 06-26-2008, 12:51 PM

I believe Roger Becker mentioned at the LA Auto Show that there will be a new model of the car to replace the existing one. I assume like the S2 replaced the S1.

andykeck · 06-26-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sumolance

(sigh..) By 'dodging' I was referring to the waiver, which in a sense, is like receiving a privilege when others have to conform. I knew I was gonna get a response like this; I remember a saying referring to arguing on the internet is like arguing in the Special Olympics....

Nice.

jlj3394 · 06-26-2008, 03:24 PM

I think Lotus will always make an Elise type car. It is true to their heritage and is a great stepping stone to the other vehicles they are planning on making.

As long as they can pilfer drivetrains from other cars, they can simply use the same VVA underpinnings to build the smaller, more focused Elise type car.

Mr.C · 06-26-2008, 04:58 PM

There were Lotus folks from Hethel at the Lotus track day at PIR in April, and I asked them the same question.
Their answer was that there are currently no plans in place for an Elise / Exige replacement.
But on the other hand there was also no Exige coming to the US at some point...

Go figure

Stormy320 · 06-26-2008, 06:56 PM

Lotus will say absolutely anything to get you to buy the car today instead of waiting for a new model.

looney · 06-26-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jlj3394

I think Lotus will always make an Elise type car. It is true to their heritage and is a great stepping stone to the other vehicles they are planning on making.

As long as they can pilfer drivetrains from other cars, they can simply use the same VVA underpinnings to build the smaller, more focused Elise type car.

haha, thats kind of funny if you think they had to dilute the 111R to make it federal (not having a go at what you said, just a chuckle at the situation)

space · 07-09-2008, 07:19 AM

im sure they have something planned, if only we knew..

TimMullen · 07-09-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisB

Lotus did not dodge any structural crash test requirements. It had to pass all of them. For a couple years it received a waiver for the bumper regulations, which has nothing to do with safety, and the headlight requirements. Current models meet all requirements.

It is true that the Elise has always passed the crash test requirements (heck it greatly exceeds the requirements).

But they did pull a "fast one" on the bumpers. The original cars had a waiver. The requirement was that the car had to withstand a 2.5 MPH impact with out damaging anything but the bumper cover. When the waiver expired, Lotus redefined the clams to be "bumper covers", so that the only damage is to the replaceable clam - errr, bumper cover. There can still be no structural damage to the chassis or crash structure, so they did reinforce the "bumper covers" a bit, but any way you look at it they pulled a clever "fast one", dodging the bumper regulations.

Bavarian Motorist · 07-09-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TimMullen

It is true that the Elise has always passed the crash test requirements (heck it greatly exceeds the requirements).

But they did pull a "fast one" on the bumpers. The original cars had a waiver. The requirement was that the car had to withstand a 2.5 MPH impact with out damaging anything but the bumper cover. When the waiver expired, Lotus redefined the clams to be "bumper covers", so that the only damage is to the replaceable clam - errr, bumper cover. There can still be no structural damage to the chassis or crash structure, so they did reinforce the "bumper covers" a bit, but any way you look at it they pulled a clever "fast one", dodging the bumper regulations.

Ha. I didn't know that. That's a good one, Lotus. If we had a Lotus comedian here, that'd make for a funny joke.

LARRY · 07-09-2008, 09:36 AM

"I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a bumper cover."

Rodney Dangerfield

xtn · 07-09-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sumolance

(sigh..) By 'dodging' I was referring to the waiver, which in a sense, is like receiving a privilege when others have to conform. I knew I was gonna get a response like this; I remember a saying referring to arguing on the internet is like arguing in the Special Olympics....

Okay, but the waiver for the bumpers was not "dodging certain U.S. structural crash-standard loop-holing" as you said in your first post.

xtn

Bgwilly31 · 07-09-2008, 03:25 PM

hell were only a few months away from knowing what 2009 will hold in store for us.

Getting older sucks. Time starts flying by.

06-25-2008, 10:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
sumolance RuvmyRotus Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 41	How many more years of production? Did a search, but... Does anybody know how much longer the current Elise/Exige is gonna be produced? Has there been any declaration of production termination? I wonder if it's gonna be the next Esprit.

06-25-2008, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	I think it was until 2011 __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

06-25-2008, 11:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
LARRY It's a Lotus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beverly Hills, Ca. Posts: 17,150	Get 'em while you can! There will NEVER be another car like this one on the road... __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise. Stage II Exhaust. 2007 ProBax seats. "We know they're magical and worth every minute we spend on them. The whole Lotus owners' world is like a secret handshake among people who understand that." (R&T)

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Randy Chase Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego and where ever the roads lead Posts: 28,174 Images: 761	I believe Roger Becker mentioned at the LA Auto Show that there will be a new model of the car to replace the existing one. I assume like the S2 replaced the S1. __________________ * V E R I T A S * A E Q U I T A S * No Longer the ADMIN here, please do not PM me asking for help. Thanks! 2006 Noble M400. Getrag tranny, Quaiffe LSD, Hinged clams. Duratec dual turbo V6. Hoosier 315-18 tires. 2350 pounds. Over 500hp. Track weapon. 2009 Rossion Q1. Monaco Orange. Wing. Black leather/Alcantara with orange stitching. The street car. In build: 2009 Toniq R (300whp? 1100 pounds?). Chrome Orange. Lexus GX-470 tow vehicle.

06-26-2008, 03:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
jlj3394 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 844	I think Lotus will always make an Elise type car. It is true to their heritage and is a great stepping stone to the other vehicles they are planning on making. As long as they can pilfer drivetrains from other cars, they can simply use the same VVA underpinnings to build the smaller, more focused Elise type car. __________________ 05 GG Elise: Exige clam, LSS, Stage 2, ACT HD, DBA5000, CF scoops/splitter/mirrors/panels Others: Lex ES300Coach, Volvo V70R 300hp/260k Missed:01&04 Wranglers, 71 CJ5(225V6) Need a Johnson County or Kansas City personal injury/wrongful death attorney/lawyer/law firm?http://www.kcatty.com Looking for a Johnson County, KS DUI lawyer/attorney? http://www.JohnsonCountyDUI.com Need a Johnson County, KS lawyer/attorney to help amend or fix a speeding/traffic ticket? http://www.JoCoTraffic.com

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sumolance RuvmyRotus Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 41	(sigh..) By 'dodging' I was referring to the waiver, which in a sense, is like receiving a privilege when others have to conform. I knew I was gonna get a response like this; I remember a saying referring to arguing on the internet is like arguing in the Special Olympics....

06-26-2008, 04:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mr.C German Reimport Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 622	There were Lotus folks from Hethel at the Lotus track day at PIR in April, and I asked them the same question. Their answer was that there are currently no plans in place for an Elise / Exige replacement. But on the other hand there was also no Exige coming to the US at some point... Go figure __________________ If I die, my biggest fear is that my wife sells all my toys for the price I told her I bought them for...

06-26-2008, 06:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
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07-09-2008, 07:19 AM	#15 (permalink)
space Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6	im sure they have something planned, if only we knew..

07-09-2008, 09:36 AM	#18 (permalink)
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