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2006 Lotus Elise STi
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Great write up! Hope to see this beast in person one day, just not at a red light
![]() Ivan - thanks for the air filter! You wouldn't believe the filth on the old one... Eddie Quote:
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T.O. Exige S
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Here is the results of the Dyno runs on Friday night.
Sorry the scan is a little blurry but the numbers to the rear wheels are: Horsepower = 253.16 Torque = 167.03 Add in the drive train parasitic loss of XX and you get Horsepower = ??? at the flywheel. The car is running on Sunoco 94 Octane pump fuel. According to Daniel at KOMO-TEC, the numbers are in line with expectations based on the mapping required for the lower 92 octane North American fuel. Daniel is sending me 2 new ECU's to see if we can squeeze a little more juice out of the engine. I'm going to go back and have some additional runs done when they show up. On another note. I drove the car in downtown Toronto Stop and Go traffic on Sunday in the heat. The engine temperature never went above the standard 207 degrees with no noticeable heat soak lagging during short accelerations. Last year in the same conditions the car would shudder in the high temp stop and go when the traffic opened up and you stepped on it.
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2007 Exige S: Chili Red, KOMO-TEC S 280 Engine Upgrade, Touring, Soft Top Conversion, HID's + D Lights, Pioneer AVIC-N4 + Rear Cam, Carbon Fiber Console + Binnicle Ownership history:1998 Lotus Twin/Turbo V8 GT - 1987 Lotus Turbo Esprit HC - 1984 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole - 1978 Porsche 930 Turbo - 1969 Porsche 911 |
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Munich, Germany
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Thanks a lot for the Dyno printout! That means you have a different mapping for the North American fuel than we have in Europe, right? What is the highest Octane you can get there? Would be interesting to see if Daniel can tune a little bit for this fuel because I think he has not much experience with it.
Has Daniel also commented the drop when the cam shifts at 4.6krpm? |
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T.O. Exige S
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Regarding the lower cam shift, I asked that question as well and was told it was the sweet spot in their experience for tracking the car. He is doing an evaluation on all of the data and will be sending me a report shortly.
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2007 Exige S: Chili Red, KOMO-TEC S 280 Engine Upgrade, Touring, Soft Top Conversion, HID's + D Lights, Pioneer AVIC-N4 + Rear Cam, Carbon Fiber Console + Binnicle Ownership history:1998 Lotus Twin/Turbo V8 GT - 1987 Lotus Turbo Esprit HC - 1984 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole - 1978 Porsche 930 Turbo - 1969 Porsche 911 |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Toronto
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Here is a little info on European vs North American octane rating I found...have a look.
Originally posted by E_SolSi@Jul 17 2005, 12:48 AM In Europe 98-octane gasoline is common and in Japan even 100-octane is readily available at the pumps, but this octane nomenclature is misleading to Americans as foreign octane ratings are derived entirely differently from our own... So, like every other measurement system it seems that everyone else uses a different scale than we do, but unlike most other instances where we have had the good sense to create different units of measure in this case we all use the same name... Japan and Europe use a system called RON or Research Octane Number to determine the octane rating of their gasoline, while stateside we use a system called AKI or Anti-Knock Index to determine gasoline's octane rating... Interestingly, to further complicate things it would seem that our own AKI system is actually derived from the average of the RON system and another more complicated system referred to as MON or Motor Octane Number... So, to recap our methodologies for measuring gasoline's octane rating are different, but share some common elements... So, with the commonality of RON in mind a good rule of thumb is as follows, multiply the foreign RON Octane rating by 0.95 and you will have the US AKI equivalent. ( RON Octane Rating x 0.95 = AKI Octane Rating ) 98 RON Octane x 0.95 = 93.1 AKI Octane (US measure) 100 RON Octane x 0.95 = 95 AKI Octane (US measure) So, as you can see the 93 or 94 octane fuel we are all paying an arm and a leg for is actually quite comparable to the higher octane fuels found in Europe and Japan. The people whom have to worry about low octane rating are our friends out west in places like California that are subjected to substandard 91 octane. 91 AKI Octane (US measure) = 95.5 RON Octane
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2006 Tripoint SC with 3.2" 10psi pulley and Aquamist, custom 2.5" free flowexhaust, FF headers, Decat, Ohlin's, track brace, custom carbon bits 1994 Caterham 7, R400 zetec conversion in progress |
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Munich, Germany
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That's interesting, I didn't know that one. I always wondered why the octane labels at the pumps in the US stated less than in Europe.
Ok, now we know there is no difference regarding the gas quality but then I'm wondering why the torque and power is much lower than expected. @ T.O.: have you also done a dyno before the modifications? |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Toronto
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Where did you get your dyno test done. Chris and I have been meaning to get our cars tested
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2006 Tripoint SC with 3.2" 10psi pulley and Aquamist, custom 2.5" free flowexhaust, FF headers, Decat, Ohlin's, track brace, custom carbon bits 1994 Caterham 7, R400 zetec conversion in progress |
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T.O. Exige S
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
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The Company's name is Magnus Automotive located in Concord.
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2007 Exige S: Chili Red, KOMO-TEC S 280 Engine Upgrade, Touring, Soft Top Conversion, HID's + D Lights, Pioneer AVIC-N4 + Rear Cam, Carbon Fiber Console + Binnicle Ownership history:1998 Lotus Twin/Turbo V8 GT - 1987 Lotus Turbo Esprit HC - 1984 Ferrari 308 GTS Quattrovalvole - 1978 Porsche 930 Turbo - 1969 Porsche 911 |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Toronto
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Great, I'll give them a call
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2006 Tripoint SC with 3.2" 10psi pulley and Aquamist, custom 2.5" free flowexhaust, FF headers, Decat, Ohlin's, track brace, custom carbon bits 1994 Caterham 7, R400 zetec conversion in progress |
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GGM ENFORCER
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Land of da 1000 Oaks, CA
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what was your hp and torque before?
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Join Date: May 2008
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wow just went thru this whole thread.., and i liked what i read
![]() couple of questions tho, i see that ur the first in NorthAmerica with this kit... very nice, so does that give us in the States a chance to also get this kit... say we talked to 'Daniel' in germany and we could get this komo-tec kit shipped straight to us in the States??? and what if we're already planning on getting a different exhaust and decat, etc... could we still get our own exhaust and stuff, and have them tune the ECU with those mods included? or do we have to purchase the exhaust and sportcat that is extra with kit? from wat ive been reading, this seems to be the best kit for the 08 exige S40s... also utilizes stock SC, altho pricy, but has promising gains... also sounds SICK from the video. plz post more vids if u can? |
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Munich, Germany
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Putting your own exhaust and cat to the car should be in principal no problem but the ECU mapping is tuned to the devices Daniel used. So worst case is that you have to live with less performance. Daniel is very helpful to tweak the max out of the car, maybe then he can also give you different ECUs to test. I'd give him a call and ask him about: +49 2652 989536
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Join Date: May 2008
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well ive been doing some research on diff. exhausts and cats, and which ones have best sound and performance... but if the exhaust and cat that comes from this komo-tec kit are one of the best in both sound in performance, than i dont mind spending the extra $$$ to get it, epecially cuz the ECU mapping will be the best... but i cant see the ecu mapping mattter that much even if i get it mapped with Daniel's setup for those two, and going with a different tuner's... ill just wait and see on some more input perhaps. and can someone confirm if getting this kit available in the states is possible? i figure if OP can get it shippd to him in canada, the US shudnt be a prob either... |
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Munich, Germany
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You can order it at Hangar111.com. I don't see any reason why this could not been shipped to the states.
Hangar111 280S article: http://www.hangar111.com/ckextras/Ex..._08_screen.pdf |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Long Island (Hicksville), New York
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I'm very interested, as well. However, I don't think there are any distributors in the United States at this time. If there are, please let us know about them. Does anyone have any information? I guess a phone call to "Hangar 111" would be the next step.
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2007 Exige S. delivered on 1/2/07. Chrome Orange,touring,track,LSD,TC, Stage II and Starshield. Still considering performance/power upgrades however, I am extremely impressed by the performance/power of the S. IMHO, it definitely does not need to be upgraded. Not for the street, anyway.There is no other car for any amount of money that I would rather own and drive. Last edited by SimonMExS : 06-09-2008 at 06:24 PM. |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Essex UK
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Also it is worth considering the other choice, Gotham from CharlieX and a Proalloy charge cooler, IMHO these are the best items on sale for the S to give long term reliable performance for track and road. Well I would say that as I own one
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Long Island (Hicksville), New York
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![]() ![]() Moreover, IMHO there is probably nothing else that gives as much 'bang for the buck' as Charlie's 'Gotham.'
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2007 Exige S. delivered on 1/2/07. Chrome Orange,touring,track,LSD,TC, Stage II and Starshield. Still considering performance/power upgrades however, I am extremely impressed by the performance/power of the S. IMHO, it definitely does not need to be upgraded. Not for the street, anyway.There is no other car for any amount of money that I would rather own and drive. Last edited by SimonMExS : 06-10-2008 at 11:56 AM. |
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