Lotus Exige 265E - Page 2 - LotusTalk

Abe · 08-22-2006, 02:14 PM

Last two.

Roger · 08-22-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JimK

I take exception to the statement that "ethanol produces more energy when it's burned than standard petrol". Methanol does, ethanol doesn't. Still, very cool.

Methanol doesn't, either.

Popolocho · 08-22-2006, 03:31 PM

I like it.

Donovan · 08-22-2006, 03:57 PM

K I am confused - if it doesn't create more power, how did they get a 46 BHP increase?

I really want this car - this is the Exige S they should bring here. They make Ethanol from corn right? I love corn...

inetd · 08-22-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donovan

K I am confused - if it doesn't create more power, how did they get a 46 BHP increase?

I really want this car - this is the Exige S they should bring here. They make Ethanol from corn right? I love corn...

You better start lobbying your government. Since, Washington state regulates what fuel mixtures you can buy and sell and where they come from. I hope you are a member of a country club and keep a money tree out back. Your sovereigns know better, thats why they are the smartest and best among us.

ivan1 · 08-22-2006, 05:37 PM

we can get it in a few places in NY, so Lotus, if you are reading this, bring on the 265E!!!

http://www.grainnet.com/articles/NY_...za_-35717.html

nugg_dawg · 08-22-2006, 06:54 PM

Gawd dangit! I want my friggin' super charger NOW!

John

Aedo · 08-22-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimK
I take exception to the statement that "ethanol produces more energy when it's burned than standard petrol". Methanol does, ethanol doesn't. Still, very cool.

Methanol doesn't, either.

Absolutely! Gasoline contains 29MJ/l vs 19.6MJ/l for ethanol (and 14.6MJ/l for methanol) see wikipedia Fuel Energy Density for details!

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Originally Posted by Donovan

K I am confused - if it doesn't create more power, how did they get a 46 BHP increase?

The extra power must be as Bruce pointed out - through higher boost and mapping.

P90Puma · 08-22-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by P90Puma

high octane rating so you can crank up the boost futher without knocking. (detonation) Today, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce

Yup, that's how you make more power with alcohol - higher CR or more boost and advance. Today, 12:58 PM

Me first, me first. Just kidding.

It's actually pretty easy to add power using the E85, usually no mapping is required as the ecu see's more are being sucked in through the maf/mas (airflow sensor) due to the raised boost and adjusts accordingly.

It's highly sought after in the serious racer crowd. Due to this fact (octane), and it's cheaper then regular gas.

Win/Win situation. Cheaper gas and more HP.

Bruce · 08-22-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by P90Puma

It's highly sought after in the serious racer crowd. Due to this fact (octane), and it's cheaper then regular gas.

Is E85 really cheaper than gas in Canada? Where they have it in the US it's a about the same. And where it's the same price you're actually getting less since the energy content is less per gallon. It can be a niche fuel for racers like you say if they build to it. We don't even have it in the South. Doesn't matter much to me because you have to build the engine for it or have forced induction. There's no benefit in a NA Elise.

bluejae · 08-22-2006, 08:58 PM

i want the passenger seat... 2 of them for my exige...

Bleu Omdurman · 08-22-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce

Is E85 really cheaper than gas in Canada? Where they have it in the US it's a about the same. And where it's the same price you're actually getting less since the energy content is less per gallon. It can be a niche fuel for racers like you say if they build to it. We don't even have it in the South. Doesn't matter much to me because you have to build the engine for it or have forced induction. There's no benefit in a NA Elise.

They have it in GA. Most US Army (maybe just military in general?) posts have it in their gas stations.

Canyonball · 08-22-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MickOpalak

Cool car.

Nice power.

Ugly stripes.

lol... +1

rob240R · 08-23-2006, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Donovan

K I am confused - if it doesn't create more power, how did they get a 46 BHP increase?

I really want this car - this is the Exige S they should bring here. They make Ethanol from corn right? I love corn...

what do they make bourbon from ? would it run better on jack d ?

Bruce · 08-23-2006, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bleu Omdurman

They have it in GA. Most US Army (maybe just military in general?) posts have it in their gas stations.

What's the pricing relative to gas?

yacoub · 08-18-2007, 05:18 AM

261hp. Not bad!

MJC123 · 09-28-2007, 10:01 PM

Question:

Would this kit (and E85) get you to 265HP in an Exige S?

http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Detail?no=110

charliex · 09-28-2007, 10:06 PM

nope, you need an ecu remap to take advantage of the extra octane, the e265 car also has 2 extra injectors at the supercharger inlet.

MJC123 · 09-29-2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by charliex

nope, you need an ecu remap to take advantage of the extra octane, the e265 car also has 2 extra injectors at the supercharger inlet.

I believe that kit includes an ECU re-map? What is the picture on the left with the little box with wires coming out? Is that re-mapping equipment?

charliex · 09-29-2007, 09:53 AM

It includes a device that alters the air fuel mix to correct it for the change in octane (reads off a o2/lambda sensor), that not enough of a change to take advantage of the extra octane.

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Donovan Talkin' Loco Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 1,061	K I am confused - if it doesn't create more power, how did they get a 46 BHP increase? I really want this car - this is the Exige S they should bring here. They make Ethanol from corn right? I love corn...

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