NEW carbon wings, side skirts, splitter, end plates from Prototype Composites - Page 2 - LotusTalk

dasmoofler · 05-05-2008, 12:11 PM

Where are you located?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Composites

Don't know about the Elise, anyone want to drive one by?

Drilling? yes.

The end plates have 1/8" thick rubber sheets bonded to them.

Lotus-Position · 05-05-2008, 12:56 PM

If someone does some test fitting on an Elise, please include the diffusor... I'd be interested in pricing on the diffusor alone... looks fantastic. Any emperical data on aero affects of the diffusor? Should I expect similar affects to the now-discontinued Reverie 5 element?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dasmoofler

Where are you located?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Composites

Don't know about the Elise, anyone want to drive one by?

Drilling? yes.

The end plates have 1/8" thick rubber sheets bonded to them.

Bgwilly31 · 05-05-2008, 01:18 PM

Much of the same from me.

The wing i dont like, im thinking the main reason for this is because its high but not as wide as the car. In most cases with large wings, the wing extends the width of the car. Im not sure.

As for the diffuser. I LOVE IT! Patiently waiting for the price. May i suggest keeping it low. You will sell more that way

Now the sideskirts. I'd like to see more pics. detail pics and different full view angles. Maybe underside pic so we can see how they are mounted. Same suggestion on the price for these as well

MickOpalak · 05-05-2008, 01:58 PM

I'm already cringing thinking about the first time you close the Exige's rear hatch and those end plates smack into the rear clam, foam padding or not.

FLuXeXigeS · 05-05-2008, 02:00 PM

subscribed...interested on the front lip, side mirrors and side skirts...maybe the rear diffuser as well...more pics please thanx

sfelise · 05-05-2008, 02:25 PM

Diffuser looks really cool. Is there any advantage, from a down-force standpoint, to the extra fins or is it for the looks?

Composites · 05-05-2008, 02:47 PM

I'll need some time to answer all of this but here's a first attempt:

1) Prototype Composites is in Glendale, WI (NE side of Milwaukee).

2) The mesh rear panel is aluminum screen from Auto Zone, (yes it's the exact same stuff that Lotus uses), trimmed to size and powder coated black. Yes, that's an extraordinarily sweet lead. You're all welcome. Send food.

3) Single story end plates: Absolutely. I can make them out of the same mold and trim them to size.

4) When I get the car back, I'll get some more pics up of the side skirts. These pics are what the owner gave me, and often I don't get much time with the car.

5) No canards. I still perceive them as synonymous prevarications......I love that movie! Anyone catch the reference?

6) End plates smacking the rear clam: We've done it countless times during fit-up with no marks whatsoever. Don't know what else to say about that one...

Vangman · 05-05-2008, 03:27 PM

Also, when you run the numbers on the rear wing will you be able to run them separate and together with the new diffuser? I'd like to know what each piece contributes to the over L/D numbers as well as how well they interact with each other.

Z-dculus · 05-05-2008, 04:21 PM

Not a fan of that wing at all, diffuser is definitely cool,

That can't be good for the clam when closing the rear lid with those deck supports can it?

TOPGUN750 · 05-05-2008, 04:53 PM

Can you just make a copy of the stock wing in the magnificent carbon fiber finishes you guys are known for?

I'm not liking the look of the two story wing although I admire the fact that you guys are thinking outside the box.

Any photos of the carbon fiber side intake pods? Are they available now? If so how much? Also are there different varients of the front splitter? Due to clearance issues I need something similar to stock. Let me know because I am very very interested and I am looking to pick up at least the side pods soon.

Keep up the good work.

9and3 · 05-05-2008, 05:34 PM

Reminds me of...

Bavarian Motorist · 05-05-2008, 05:56 PM

Am I the only one who finds the wing elegant and beautiful? The only change I'd make is trimming the side pieces about an inch, but if it's functional, it's functional.

So would the wind be compatible with an Elise? I mean, how would the different angle of the Elise's engine cover compared to the slope of the Exige's hatch affect the functionality of the wing?

Again, love the wing. I'd own one if it's compatible with an Elise.

AnsisK · 05-05-2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Am I the only one who finds the wing elegant and beautiful? The only change I'd make is trimming the side pieces about an inch, but if it's functional, it's functional.

I like the look, very racy. I think that if the whole ensemble was the width of the rear (although that would be pointless considering this is an add-on to the stocker) it would look ridiculously amazing in a DTM wild winged creation way.

twaszak1 · 05-05-2008, 07:51 PM

i saw the car in person today.....

it is amazing, and on top of it the owner acctually stood on the front splitter

scared the crap out of me. i have had the opportunity to meet mike, the guy making the bits, and he is the oppitemy?(spelling) of perfectionist, not to mention cool as hell, a true car geek as we all are. these pieces are TOP OF THE LINE!!! and beautiful...my favorite were the side skirts. they litterally made me feel funny, like when we climb the rope in gym class.

just my opinion
T.J.

FLuXeXigeS · 05-05-2008, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twaszak1

i saw the car in person today.....

it is amazing, and on top of it the owner acctually stood on the front splitter

scared the crap out of me. i have had the opportunity to meet mike, the guy making the bits, and he is the oppitemy?(spelling) of perfectionist, not to mention cool as hell, a true car geek as we all are. these pieces are TOP OF THE LINE!!! and beautiful...my favorite were the side skirts. they litterally made me feel funny, like when we climb the rope in gym class.

just my opinion
T.J.

cmon Garth pics or ban

twaszak1 · 05-05-2008, 08:21 PM

unfortunatly i didnt have a cam at work. but he will be back to get some ordered parts installed i will have the cam on hand

Bavarian Motorist · 05-05-2008, 08:25 PM

That is the best selling point to me; that I know Composites' parts are top notch and he prides himself on only selling high quality parts. Nothing could be more reassuring

I see this like I see the Porsche GT3 wing: wacky, but cool!

jallingt · 05-05-2008, 08:29 PM

I would like to see info on the effects of the diffuser and chin splitter alone.
I recall some chat on another thread suggesting that a slightly lowered car with a well functioning chin splitter and diffuser will produce more, better, or better balanced downforce with less drag than the addition of a wing (with or w/o diffuser and splitter).

How is the chin splitter attached to the car? And how far does it stick out (compromising ground clearance)?

AnsisK · 05-05-2008, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jallingt

And how far does it stick out (compromising ground clearance)?

Not only clearance, but a longer splitter also changes the rake angle and other aero characteristics that make a front splitter functional. This stuff is more complicated than just making a CF panel and bolting it on hoping for the best.

jallingt · 05-05-2008, 09:14 PM

"This stuff is more complicated than just making a CF panel and bolting it on hoping for the best."

This is why I have questions.....

05-05-2008, 01:18 PM	#23 (permalink)
Bgwilly31 Twisties Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincy, OH Posts: 1,202	Much of the same from me. The wing i dont like, im thinking the main reason for this is because its high but not as wide as the car. In most cases with large wings, the wing extends the width of the car. Im not sure. As for the diffuser. I LOVE IT! Patiently waiting for the price. May i suggest keeping it low. You will sell more that way Now the sideskirts. I'd like to see more pics. detail pics and different full view angles. Maybe underside pic so we can see how they are mounted. Same suggestion on the price for these as well __________________ -*Aspen White Exige S* 04' Lexus Turbo IS300 BSM "track car"--SOLD "Straight lines dont mean sh"

05-05-2008, 01:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
MickOpalak LOG29 Co-chairman Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,571	I'm already cringing thinking about the first time you close the Exige's rear hatch and those end plates smack into the rear clam, foam padding or not. __________________ 2007 Exige S265 - Krypton Green - Gotham 265 ECU - Volk TE37s - Toyo R888s - B&M Shifter - QuickSilver exhaust - stripes - harnesses - Pagid pads - Green air filter LOG29 - http://www.log29.org President - Lotus Limited Southeast http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/LLSE/

05-05-2008, 02:00 PM	#25 (permalink)
FLuXeXigeS ...disappearing posts... Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoCal/AZ/NV Posts: 4,368	subscribed...interested on the front lip, side mirrors and side skirts...maybe the rear diffuser as well...more pics please thanx __________________ -Coi-'07 AR Exige S+Gotham, Von Hep, corner balanced&tuned SACHS, 6k HID, JVC KD-NX5000, Alpine 4ch. amp, JL stealth box, s111 rear towhook and harness bar, Starshield, TG4 1/4 turn fasteners, SS brake lines, bling bling eng bay, painted calipers, TD 1.2 wheels w/ Toyo R888, Safecraft harnesses, DRL delete, s111 CRD mount. add me: www.myspace.com/kandyredcoi & lotuscar.ning.com/profile/KandyRedCoi

05-05-2008, 02:25 PM	#26 (permalink)
sfelise Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Francisco Posts: 272	Diffuser looks really cool. Is there any advantage, from a down-force standpoint, to the extra fins or is it for the looks? __________________ Eric Jennings 2005 Elise 2004 S4 Avant 1995 M3 (RIP)

05-05-2008, 02:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
Composites Carbon Guru Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Glendale, WI USA Posts: 225	I'll need some time to answer all of this but here's a first attempt: 1) Prototype Composites is in Glendale, WI (NE side of Milwaukee). 2) The mesh rear panel is aluminum screen from Auto Zone, (yes it's the exact same stuff that Lotus uses), trimmed to size and powder coated black. Yes, that's an extraordinarily sweet lead. You're all welcome. Send food. 3) Single story end plates: Absolutely. I can make them out of the same mold and trim them to size. 4) When I get the car back, I'll get some more pics up of the side skirts. These pics are what the owner gave me, and often I don't get much time with the car. 5) No canards. I still perceive them as synonymous prevarications......I love that movie! Anyone catch the reference? 6) End plates smacking the rear clam: We've done it countless times during fit-up with no marks whatsoever. Don't know what else to say about that one... __________________ Mike Cudahy President Prototype Composites (414) 354-5144

05-05-2008, 03:27 PM	#28 (permalink)
Vangman Karting Maniac Join Date: May 2004 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 1,121	Also, when you run the numbers on the rear wing will you be able to run them separate and together with the new diffuser? I'd like to know what each piece contributes to the over L/D numbers as well as how well they interact with each other. __________________ Northeast E-Talk/Club111 Regional Coordinator! The NE 2008 Calendar ------------------------------------- Nothing quells chaos and disorder faster than the threat of total planetary annihilation. - Governor Tarkin acting commander of the first Death Star Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. - Barry Melrose Measure your coffin, does it measure up to your lust? - Iron Maiden

05-05-2008, 04:21 PM	#29 (permalink)
Z-dculus Derriere Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US OF A! Posts: 2,134	Not a fan of that wing at all, diffuser is definitely cool, That can't be good for the clam when closing the rear lid with those deck supports can it? __________________ 2006 KG-Sport Pack, LSD, TC, SS, Multivex, Lotus Stage II/powercoated diffuser, CF Zoom Rear View, Sector LidBone, Darth Holder (thanks Kestrel!), Sector 4Tress Harness Bar/CRD Mount, couple exige trim pieces 2004 Nissan 350z - Super Black-too many mods to list-SOLD to my brother 1978 Chevrolet Caprice Classic -(daily driver) *Seasoned veteran member of the KG Mafia

05-05-2008, 04:53 PM	#30 (permalink)
TOPGUN750 Carpe Diem Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 589	Can you just make a copy of the stock wing in the magnificent carbon fiber finishes you guys are known for? I'm not liking the look of the two story wing although I admire the fact that you guys are thinking outside the box. Any photos of the carbon fiber side intake pods? Are they available now? If so how much? Also are there different varients of the front splitter? Due to clearance issues I need something similar to stock. Let me know because I am very very interested and I am looking to pick up at least the side pods soon. Keep up the good work. __________________ Justin 2007 Exige S: Laser Blue + Touring + Track Pack + Traction Control + Convertible Conversion + Carbon Fiber Console and HVAC surround + Aluminum Carpet Buttons + Toybox Hethel Wheels + Goodyear F1 Rubber + Ekological HID 2005 Elise (#267 Traded): Ardent Red/Black + Touring + Hardtop + Hurricane HID + JL Audio Stealthbox & Sub + Lanzar Opti 4x400D Amp + Alpine Type S & R speakers + iPod Hardwired 2001 Audi S4: Sold but not forgotten

05-05-2008, 05:34 PM	#31 (permalink)
9and3 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 149	Reminds me of... Attached Images __________________ 9and3 '07 Exige S, Performance Pack

05-05-2008, 05:56 PM	#32 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rye, NY Posts: 8,387	Am I the only one who finds the wing elegant and beautiful? The only change I'd make is trimming the side pieces about an inch, but if it's functional, it's functional. So would the wind be compatible with an Elise? I mean, how would the different angle of the Elise's engine cover compared to the slope of the Exige's hatch affect the functionality of the wing? Again, love the wing. I'd own one if it's compatible with an Elise. __________________ Driving a Lotus Exige with sticky... performance tires on icy roads or in standing water is about as much fun as walking a high wire treated with WD-40 - Car & Driver BWR supercharged... I suppose I "got the power" now??

05-05-2008, 07:51 PM	#34 (permalink)
twaszak1 Lotus Service Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 469	i saw the car in person today..... it is amazing, and on top of it the owner acctually stood on the front splitter scared the crap out of me. i have had the opportunity to meet mike, the guy making the bits, and he is the oppitemy?(spelling) of perfectionist, not to mention cool as hell, a true car geek as we all are. these pieces are TOP OF THE LINE!!! and beautiful...my favorite were the side skirts. they litterally made me feel funny, like when we climb the rope in gym class. just my opinion T.J.

05-05-2008, 08:21 PM	#36 (permalink)
twaszak1 Lotus Service Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 469	unfortunatly i didnt have a cam at work. but he will be back to get some ordered parts installed i will have the cam on hand

05-05-2008, 08:25 PM	#37 (permalink)
Bavarian Motorist Live to Drive Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rye, NY Posts: 8,387	That is the best selling point to me; that I know Composites' parts are top notch and he prides himself on only selling high quality parts. Nothing could be more reassuring I see this like I see the Porsche GT3 wing: wacky, but cool! __________________ Driving a Lotus Exige with sticky... performance tires on icy roads or in standing water is about as much fun as walking a high wire treated with WD-40 - Car & Driver BWR supercharged... I suppose I "got the power" now??

05-05-2008, 08:29 PM	#38 (permalink)
jallingt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 430	I would like to see info on the effects of the diffuser and chin splitter alone. I recall some chat on another thread suggesting that a slightly lowered car with a well functioning chin splitter and diffuser will produce more, better, or better balanced downforce with less drag than the addition of a wing (with or w/o diffuser and splitter). How is the chin splitter attached to the car? And how far does it stick out (compromising ground clearance)? __________________ 2005 Bordeaux Met #21 (HT, Touring, Quicksilver ext, TRM F1 wheels, Stan Stud, HID lights, BWR S/C,Filled motor mounts, catch can) 2004 Audi S4 Sedan (Tip, GAIC Chip, AWE Cat-back, Team Dyanmics Pro 1.2 wheels) 2002 F-350 (Powerstroke, 4x4, Banks power pack, 6th alternator) Couple nice bicycles, way too many snow skis.

05-05-2008, 09:14 PM	#40 (permalink)
jallingt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 430	"This stuff is more complicated than just making a CF panel and bolting it on hoping for the best." This is why I have questions..... __________________ 2005 Bordeaux Met #21 (HT, Touring, Quicksilver ext, TRM F1 wheels, Stan Stud, HID lights, BWR S/C,Filled motor mounts, catch can) 2004 Audi S4 Sedan (Tip, GAIC Chip, AWE Cat-back, Team Dyanmics Pro 1.2 wheels) 2002 F-350 (Powerstroke, 4x4, Banks power pack, 6th alternator) Couple nice bicycles, way too many snow skis.

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