New intercooler alternatives..

[Thomasio]

Originally Posted by Dragon

Every 11'F drop in intake air temp is = to 1% increase in power... Negates the 8lbs pretty quickly...

Not for braking or cornering...

Besides, there are other ways to drop the intake air temp without going A2W.

[alexandertg4]

Originally Posted by Thomasio

Not for braking or cornering...

Besides, there are other ways to drop the intake air temp without going A2W.

Nitrous woot!

[wildwhl]

Wow...such a hot topic (no pun intended). Once the weather warms up, even WILDWHL will have something to share on the topic (installed, but cold weather tests simply prove the intercooler stays cool in cool/cold weather, duh!).

Simple solution, though some will disagree. <---------more tease

WW

[alexandertg4]

Originally Posted by wildwhl

Wow...such a hot topic (no pun intended). Once the weather warms up, even WILDWHL will have something to share on the topic (installed, but cold weather tests simply prove the intercooler stays cool in cool/cold weather, duh!).

Simple solution, though some will disagree. <---------more tease

WW

My guess is that he removed the rear hatch, bought a mini fridge from the local price club bored 2 large holes, one on each side and wired it to his 12v. Thus encasing the A2A intercooler in an icy box.
Am I right or am I right?

[wildwhl]

You're richt.

The rear hatch is heavy.

The new, homebrew exhaust is lighter (using stock S tip). Today never saw IAT above 84 degrees in 70 ambient...but too early to form a verdict.

WW

[Doghouse]

Originally Posted by qball

Yes... a compliment.

He basically said that if you can make a kit that's reasonablly priced (like your fastener kits were) it would be great (for those people that aren't gazillionaires and can't afford to pay for expensive alloy intercoolers from England!)

Yep +10

[Doghouse]

Originally Posted by Thomasio

Water is about 8 lbs / gallon.

More importantly, the specific heat capapcity of
air = 1.0035 J g−1 K−1
and
water (liquid) = 4.1813 J g−1 K−1

For those non-technical types, this means that the ability of water to absorb heat is 4 times that of air.

Given equal volumes into which to dump heat, the water system will last four times longer than the air system.

Put another way, you have to increase the volume of air by 4 to get the equivalent cooling capacity of a water system.

This is not even getting into issues of heat transfer and efficiencies of the design of the intercooler.

Of course we can get all theoretical about this, but what matters is empirical data showing the ability to cool the charge. I have yet to see any data on inlet / outlet temperatures.

[Doghouse]

Originally Posted by wildwhl

Wow...such a hot topic (no pun intended). Once the weather warms up, even WILDWHL will have something to share on the topic (installed, but cold weather tests simply prove the intercooler stays cool in cool/cold weather, duh!).

Simple solution, though some will disagree. <---------more tease

WW

OK WildWhl you deserve this...

Come now, give it up...

[Thomasio]

Originally Posted by Doghouse

For those non-technical types, this means that the ability of water to absorb heat is 4 times that of air.

So, water ought to be part of the solution, yes?

More to follow today...

[Doghouse]

Originally Posted by wildwhl

You're richt.

The rear hatch is heavy.

The new, homebrew exhaust is lighter (using stock S tip). Today never saw IAT above 84 degrees in 70 ambient...but too early to form a verdict.

WW

Hey don't laugh too much, PWR has a ice barrel type intercooler into which you drop dry ice! For a drag race this works great, but for a day long event at a track....

[Thomasio]

Exige S Intercooler Upgrade (Cup - like)

[qball]

Originally Posted by Thomasio

Exige S Intercooler Upgrade (Cup - like)

Vaporware!

[Thomasio]

Originally Posted by qball

Vaporware!

Vaporware that you can buy in two weeks.

Look back a couple of weeks and you will see that the intercooler tubes were "vaporware", too.

[qball]

I think the Aliens abducted the intercoolers!

[Thomasio]

Originally Posted by qball

I think the Aliens abducted the intercoolers!

Exactly! They will only let me release so much at this time... something about a microchip implant.

[qball]

Originally Posted by Thomasio

Exactly! They will only let me release so much at this time... something about a microchip implant.

Microchip... yeah sure...

You're just trying to avoid another anal probe with one of your intercooler pipes!

Is that why we're supposed to wash them with soap and water first!

[Thomasio]

Originally Posted by qball

Is that why we're supposed to wash them with soap and water first!

Or a strong disinfectant...

(Actually, though, you want to wash the intercooler tubes out with soapy water to remove any debris left over from production.)

[Dragon]

Originally Posted by Thomasio

Not for braking or cornering...

Besides, there are other ways to drop the intake air temp without going A2W.

So you'll lose a tiny amount of speed in the corner, but you'll make it up in the straits with the extra power...

[Chili Red]

Originally Posted by Dragon

So you'll lose a tiny amount of speed in the corner, but you'll make it up in the straits with the extra power...

I think I would take cornering/braking speeds over straight line speed. 20hp in a straight line is not going to make all that much difference.

[alexandertg4]

Originally Posted by Chili Red

I think I would take cornering/braking speeds over straight line speed. 20hp in a straight line is not going to make all that much difference.

Ah but both together would be best