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Old 05-06-2006, 07:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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that wing is horrendous
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Old 05-06-2006, 09:29 AM   #22 (permalink)
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that wing is horrendous
I think looks all the business - you need a wing like that for racing.

I see that RED sells a kompressor kit. Anybody familiar with it? 300hp?
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Old 05-06-2006, 09:50 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Oh, i knew it was function over form, but it's still horrendous :P
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Old 05-06-2006, 10:03 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Oh, i knew it was function over form, but it's still horrendous :P
Not if you're trying to get respect from the fast-n-furious crowd!
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Old 05-06-2006, 10:23 AM   #25 (permalink)
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That's funny, I just searched their site to find out if I could buy the wing
I did see the rear diffuser there somewhere though. Keep looking
I guess I will use the pictures to have my fab guys build one for me as well as that front splitter extension with vertical support struts. I will do my struts in black anodise though front and rear.
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Old 05-06-2006, 11:34 AM   #26 (permalink)
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If you guys are wanting specific parts from the RS track car you have to contact Red directly, E-mail seems to work best, they have been very helpful with the pieces we are getting for our Exiges that were on the comp car but not for sale on the site. Not telling what we got though, you will have to wait for the pics.....
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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OZ Racing Superlaggera 18x8s are 18.5 lbs apiece. Pretty good?
18.5 lbs is ****
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For an 18x8?!?
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Old 05-06-2006, 04:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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decent wieght for that size. you want that big of a contact patch?

I'd think that lighter wieght at each wheel is more important than bigger patch but then i don't know all the variables you are changing.

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Old 05-06-2006, 04:40 PM   #30 (permalink)
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decent wieght for that size. you want that big of a contact patch?

I'd think that lighter wieght at each wheel is more important than bigger patch but then i don't know all the variables you are changing.

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I'm just pointing out that OZs would be a good choice in this situation. Take a look at it:

Their 18x9s RED-DSC Light Race wheel (pictured) weighs 21.4 lbs, whereas an 18x8 OZ Superleggera weighs 18.5 lbs.

OZ discontinued the Superleggera a while back, but now has the Ultraleggera which has a sharper design and weighs 18.4 lbs for the same size.

Which would you chose? The RED set or the cheaper, lighter, more-widely-carried, race-proven, friggin' gorgeous OZ wheel?
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I can't find anything on there site. I guess I need to learn German .
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You want to worse the handling and get extra weight? Go 18 OZ.

If you want to actually improve the handling and reduce weight, i would suggest going with 16/17 which weight 12/14.
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I'm just going by what they put on their car, which was 18x9.
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Old 05-06-2006, 10:30 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You want to worse the handling and get extra weight? Go 18 OZ.

If you want to actually improve the handling and reduce weight, i would suggest going with 16/17 which weight 12/14.
Not every Lotus Elise owner is gonna be a track junkie 24/7. Some daily drive the car and wheels that light (12/14) and the purpose they serve are/should not be exploited on the street anyway. For those who can afford the best of both worlds, the OZ superleggeras/ultraleggeras provide one of the lightest 18in wheels available. And 18" would look very good on the car. And when you do go do some competition driving, you can slap on the track wheels.

Seems like unnecessary pressure/intimidation. As in, "OMG you dont want wheels that weight 2 lbs each? GTFO"

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Old 05-07-2006, 10:32 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I'm just going by what they put on their car, which was 18x9.
Well, judging by that soiler that car is far from perfect... so, if i were you, i would rethink. 18" is no good on elise.

If you wanted some sort of car to look up to, i would recommend gt3 instead.
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You completely don't understand what I'm saying.

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if i were you, i would rethink
No.

I am not putting on any wheels on any car so there is nothing that I could possibly rethink. I'm telling them that they chose the wrong 18 inch wheel. There's no 'I' in this situation. I'm suggesting they choose a different brand of 18 inch wheel which would save them weight and money and give them reliability and piece of mind of a superior wheel brand.
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oh, ok i got ya.

Ya the wheels look nice. I though you were gonna put bigger tires and wheels on your car. my bad.

I think its interesting that some people don't understand the effects of changing the contact patch size. THis car for example. if you put 18s all around you drastically change the balance of the car in turns. in this case, all else being equal, they probably introduced more over steer. But perhaps that is better suited to the drivers style. Top Gear did a good show on this a while back with another elise model. Host whats his name had loads of understeer while the Lotus Chassis Designer dude could wipe her back end out like a leash in Indiana Jones' hands. Then he said, if your style and abilities don't suit the smaller fronts then we'll give you bigger ones.

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Old 05-09-2006, 06:54 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Good episode (was it the 111S?). He was frustrated how the car lost its oversteer because of the drop in wheel size, but in the hand sof the chassis engineer it was a walk in the park. Then Clarkson could only insult Norfolk...
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Not if you're trying to get respect from the fast-n-furious crowd!

This is true, but a REAL fast-and-furious fan would make the wing another 3 feet higher!
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