2 Wicked is alive! And it is fast

[Bgwilly31]

Originally Posted by dereklburt

My wheels still need wheel emblems that will be coming in the future. I want ones to match the stock yellow and green emblems. I tried to attach the video but could not get it to work. Here is the info on the Euro transmission from Monkeywrench. It is not any stronger than stock but the gearing is a lot better for a more powerful car. Also, the stock 6th gear in the lotus is actually lower geared than even the Celica so you see a huge difference in cruising RPM on the highway. My car now cruises at 3000RPM at 80mph and has a theoretical top speed of over 220mph. I believe that with the stock transmission it would probably top out at around 170mph at redline. Because of the gearing, I was also able to complete the autocross course in 1st gear. On a larger faster course, second gear will be fine as it is good to over 80mph. The car no longer needs the close ratio gears and is faster with the longer gearing now that it has so much power.

I copied and pasted this from the Monkeywrench web site:

This is a very special transmission. It will bolt right up to any 1ZZ or 2ZZ engine and is specially modified by MWR so that it may be installed in any 00+ Celica or 05+ Lotus Elise or Exige. No adapters or custom work of any kind are required for the installation. Works with stock or aftermarket clutches and flywheels, stock or aftermarket shifters, stock shifter cables, stock axles.

You get a factory fresh 6-speed with TRD's trusted helical limited slip differential already installed! Add up the cost of any other new or used 6-speed, LSD and LSD install and you can see that this is a steal.

Note: Axle ratio is 3.941:1 rather than 4.529:1 found in US-model Toyota ZZ 6-speeds. This means that it is a very usable transmission for street driving and that it works excellent with forced induction. Revs are considerably lower on the highway than they would be with a Celica/Lotus or Matrix transmission (~3100 rather than 3600 at 80mph) so fuel economy is noticeably better. Most people find that because of the Celica's and especially the Lotus's light weight there is very little penalty in acceleration times even for naturally aspirated cars. There can actually be an acceleration advantage for forced induction cars because the lower gears are much more usable and less shifting is required.

Note: this transmission requres use of the selector shaft from your old 6-speed transmission. It is very easy to swap over. If you do not have an old 6-speed transmission then contact us and we can arrange to sell you a reasonably priced used selector shaft.

Ratios:
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: 0.969
5th: 0.815
6th: 0.725
Final Drive: 3.941

US Celica 6-spd Ratios:
1st: 3.166
2nd: 2.050
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.166
5th: 0.916
6th: 0.725
Final Drive: 4.529
(I believe the lotus 6th is actually 0.82)

How would this tranny work with Exige 265>?

[shay2nak]

wow...nice...

[over40]

Originally Posted by dereklburt

My wheels still need wheel emblems that will be coming in the future. I want ones to match the stock yellow and green emblems. I tried to attach the video but could not get it to work. Here is the info on the Euro transmission from Monkeywrench. It is not any stronger than stock but the gearing is a lot better for a more powerful car. Also, the stock 6th gear in the lotus is actually lower geared than even the Celica so you see a huge difference in cruising RPM on the highway. My car now cruises at 3000RPM at 80mph and has a theoretical top speed of over 220mph. I believe that with the stock transmission it would probably top out at around 170mph at redline. Because of the gearing, I was also able to complete the autocross course in 1st gear. On a larger faster course, second gear will be fine as it is good to over 80mph. The car no longer needs the close ratio gears and is faster with the longer gearing now that it has so much power.

I copied and pasted this from the Monkeywrench web site:

This is a very special transmission. It will bolt right up to any 1ZZ or 2ZZ engine and is specially modified by MWR so that it may be installed in any 00+ Celica or 05+ Lotus Elise or Exige. No adapters or custom work of any kind are required for the installation. Works with stock or aftermarket clutches and flywheels, stock or aftermarket shifters, stock shifter cables, stock axles.

You get a factory fresh 6-speed with TRD's trusted helical limited slip differential already installed! Add up the cost of any other new or used 6-speed, LSD and LSD install and you can see that this is a steal.

Note: Axle ratio is 3.941:1 rather than 4.529:1 found in US-model Toyota ZZ 6-speeds. This means that it is a very usable transmission for street driving and that it works excellent with forced induction. Revs are considerably lower on the highway than they would be with a Celica/Lotus or Matrix transmission (~3100 rather than 3600 at 80mph) so fuel economy is noticeably better. Most people find that because of the Celica's and especially the Lotus's light weight there is very little penalty in acceleration times even for naturally aspirated cars. There can actually be an acceleration advantage for forced induction cars because the lower gears are much more usable and less shifting is required.

Note: this transmission requres use of the selector shaft from your old 6-speed transmission. It is very easy to swap over. If you do not have an old 6-speed transmission then contact us and we can arrange to sell you a reasonably priced used selector shaft.

Ratios:
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: 0.969
5th: 0.815
6th: 0.725
Final Drive: 3.941

US Celica 6-spd Ratios:
1st: 3.166
2nd: 2.050
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.166
5th: 0.916
6th: 0.725
Final Drive: 4.529
(I believe the lotus 6th is actually 0.82)

link: Toyota MWR Transmission - Celica / Lotus 6-spd 3.9:1 LSD - New - TOY-403215 van Toyota OEM -

and price $2350

[dereklburt]

Charlie, I won't be driving it to Vegas now that it is running good. I am still coming out to Vegas in a couple weeks to get married but we decided to fly. It would be a long trip in the Lotus (2000+miles each way) and difficult to fit luggage for 12 days. Besides I was able to get round trip airfare for $266 per person round trip.

Matt at Monkeywrench was nice enough to buy my original transmission since I was spending a lot of money there, so the European trans was only an additional $1200, but I also had previously spent money to have a LSD placed in my original trans. It is a nice upgrade for the car and already has the LSD installed. I can not comment on if it would fit a Lotus 265 but I would imagine so. I just have to say that I Really like the gearing with the additional power. Otherwise, I would be shifting constantly and it would actually slow me down.

[dereklburt]

Charlie, I won't be driving it to Vegas now that it is running good. I am still coming out to Vegas in a couple weeks to get married but we decided to fly. It would be a long trip in the Lotus (2000+miles each way) and difficult to fit luggage for 12 days. Besides I was able to get round trip airfare for $266 per person round trip.

Matt at Monkeywrench was nice enough to buy my original transmission since I was spending a lot of money there, so the European trans was only an additional $1200, but I also had previously spent money to have a LSD placed in my original trans. It is a nice upgrade for the car and already has the LSD installed. I can not comment on if it would fit a Exige 265 but I would imagine so. I believe it is the same engine, so it should. I just have to say that I Really like the gearing with the additional power. Otherwise, I would be shifting constantly and it would actually slow me down.

[charliex]

cool, i'll be over at mwr next week.

[darkSol]

Derek,

First thing - congrats on your wedding!

Second thing - any dynos to post?

Finally - have you taken your car to the drag strip yet?

Inquiring minds want to know!

[dereklburt]

I can't figure out how to attach the final dyno plot that Matt sent me. When I tried to save it as a file, it was really small. The one that was posted on the list under tuning for turbo power was close but the final was 354.8whp and 278ftlbs of torque.

I have not run it through the quarter mile yet but I hope to in a few weeks. I was all set to take it to the strip but the day I could go, they were not open. They have test and tune on Wednesday's but not the one I was able to make. Now that I am reminded of this, I may even try to do it this Wednesday if I can make it work.

I did get the opportunity to race a built up LS1 Trans Am about a week ago. I was talking to him about my turbo set up and the guy then mentioned that he would like to pull up along me someday as he had his Trans Am built. He reported that he was putting out 430whp with a built LS1 and the last time he took it to the strip, he ran a 12.4 at 115mph. Long story short, when I left, he was right behind me. When we pulled onto the highway, he pulled up next to me.

I was at a bad rpm range as we were at about 70mph and my car runs to about 80mph in 2nd. It was really too fast to put in 2nd, so I left it in 3rd. When he jumped on it, he pulled me by a full car length at least as I was not in my power band at all. As soon as my turbo started kicking in, I pulled him like he was standing still. Due to traffic, we both let off but I had started to literally blow by him as if I was in a Mustang GT racing an Escort automatic (best analogy I could think of). He was in amazement at how fast I was going when I started to blow by him. We talked for a minute after that and he figured that mine was easily a 11 second car. I guess it just depends on how it will hook up off the line. I guess I can hypothesize all I want but I won't know until I can get it there. I think traction and a good launch will be my major limiting factors.

[darkSol]

Derek,

Here's the summary sheet from Cartest2000 for your car... with just using your peak hp/torque numbers. I can get a better estimate with a .DRF file or dyno printout... you're also getting stuck in the 3rd-4th shift @ 125mph about 100' short of the trap lights... the 0-150mph time gives me goosebumps though... 15.54 seconds!!!

ZR1 Corvette fast...

[cobrabyte]

Wow … *#$&@ fast car!

I'm looking forward to the complete parts list so we can get in on the fun :P

[kverges]

Of course your wheels do not rub; it appears you have no fender liners. Glad you got engine management issues taken care of and love the color.

I want to hear how you manifld holds up; any cracking issues or fasteners loosening?

[dereklburt]

Well, I had finally made it to the drag strip a week ago after trying to make it there all summer. My first run was a huge embarrassment. I went out there expecting to surprise a lot of people. I took off from the launch and felt an immediate loss of power right out of the whole. I hooked good but my power immediately fell off and the car just ended up dying on me. No drama, no noise, just DEAD. I had to be towed down the strip and into the pits. Then I had to have the car taken home 70 miles on a flatbed! Talk about a disappointing day.

The good news is it took me a week but we finally figured out the problem. I have a return line on my fuel system as it was upgraded. Well, there was a plug that vibrated out and resulted in an immediate loss of fuel pressure. The fuel pump was working but just not pumping the fuel to the engine.

I should have it together again tomorrow and hopefully I will make it to the drag strip eventually. It is just not easy to get there since it is so far away and they only do test and tune on Wed. and Friday. I will let everyone know when it happens eventually.

[Bender Rodríguez]

Did you tell Monkeywrench about the frack-up yet?

Originally Posted by dereklburt

Well, I had finally made it to the drag strip a week ago after trying to make it there all summer. My first run was a huge embarrassment. I went out there expecting to surprise a lot of people. I took off from the launch and felt an immediate loss of power right out of the whole. I hooked good but my power immediately fell off and the car just ended up dying on me. No drama, no noise, just DEAD. I had to be towed down the strip and into the pits. Then I had to have the car taken home 70 miles on a flatbed! Talk about a disappointing day.

The good news is it took me a week but we finally figured out the problem. I have a return line on my fuel system as it was upgraded. Well, there was a plug that vibrated out and resulted in an immediate loss of fuel pressure. The fuel pump was working but just not pumping the fuel to the engine.

I should have it together again tomorrow and hopefully I will make it to the drag strip eventually. It is just not easy to get there since it is so far away and they only do test and tune on Wed. and Friday. I will let everyone know when it happens eventually.

[Bavarian Motorist]

So 60-130 is sub 8 secs...Wowza...

[darkSol]

Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

So 60-130 is sub 8 secs...Wowza...

That is absolutely amazing... my current TVS 60-130 mph is 10.2 seconds. A stock Elise does it in 19.4 seconds. Both running 3rd -> 4th -> 5th gears of course. Must... resist... more... power...

[Bavarian Motorist]

Even compared to an SLR Mclaren... That's about dead even with it. Much faster than an F430.

For some times taken with VBOX, check out this part of Lambopower. They are VBOX/speed freaks over there.

60-130


4.8 - 900 rwhp Supra (88GT47, TH400, no NOS, drag radials)
4.9 - 940 rwhp Supra (35 psi)
5.1 - 840 rwhp Supra (30 psi)
5.4 - 1,000 rwhp TT Viper
5.9 - GSXR 1000 with bolt-ons
6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
8.6 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
8.9 - Mercedes SLR McLaren
9.1 - Porsche 993 RUF Turbo R (100 octane)
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0
9.5 - Ferrari F430
9.6 - Ferrari F50
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo
12.2 - Porsche 996TT

[Hello Kitty]

darksols graph is a computer estimate though, not real numbers.

[darkSol]

Originally Posted by Hello Kitty

darksols graph is a computer estimate though, not real numbers.

We'll find out soon enough once he gets back to the drag strip! I personally can't wait to see what he runs!

[Bavarian Motorist]

Originally Posted by Hello Kitty

darksols graph is a computer estimate though, not real numbers.

I know, I know...but it's cool to dream of the possibilities There's no reason it shouldn't be up there either way...we'll see!

[dereklburt]

Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

I know, I know...but it's cool to dream of the possibilities There's no reason it shouldn't be up there either way...we'll see!

OK, I went to the drag strip last Wednesday prepared to put down some good times and my car dies on the first launch. Suddenly no fuel pressure! The plug in my fuel return line vibrated out. Talk about a dissapointment!!!! I finally made it, drove 70 miles to the strip and I don't even make it one pass. AAAAAAARRRR....... Well now I have to continue to speculate but I now have something to compare it to at least that makes these numbers more realistic.

Only a few days before going to the strip I had a race. I found out that I had missed a local car show and when I was cruising around afterwards, I heard this 82 Monte Carlo that was just NASTY! (I just found out all the details on the car this past weekend at another car show which I will tell you later in the email) Anyway, it is basically a drag car, running on race gas, loud as heck and barely able to idle at all (This car was without a doubt a beast and one of the meanest cars I have seen around on the street)

I knew I had to race him so I ended up getting behind him as we exited town. He jumped on it in front of me, so I immediately jumped on it as well. We pulled about even that time. I then pulled up next to him at about 50 and he got the jump on me due to my RPM at the time and his was an automatic but then, again, we pulled about even. One more time, we were now going about 75 and he pulled me about a half a car length but then as I my turbo really kicked in, I started to pull him just a little around the top of 3rd gear.

OK.....What does all this mean: Well the car is a 489 cubic inch (I think that was correct, it was 480 something) big block car. He runs 13:1 compression ratio, aluminum heads, has a giant roller cam, and runs a dominator carb that is still not big enough. The car is stripped out and the last time he ran the car it ran a 10:50 et @ 130mph. He tells me that it is a little faster now and that the car pulls exceptionally well in the upper RPM's and his trap speeds are closer to that of a 9:90 et car.

Basically, the car could not pull me and yes, he would have me out of the hole as he was running slicks and a 4 link suspension (he pulls wheel stands with it) but if I could stay in my RPM range, I pull just as hard as he does, if not a little harder. (I also had my wife in the car with me at the time and he was by himself). I will still not know until I actually run the car, but I think if I can get it to hook up, I do think low 11's at upper 120's or so may be in order. Hopefully I can make it back to the strip again. I am so upset that they closed our local one.

Also, after this past car show there was a cobra replica with a 427 that was driving around and showing off. Again, I got behind him. He kept chirping his tires and showing off and then floored it in front of me. I pulled right with him (just for a second in first gear). I wanted to race him in a big way but I think I scared him off as he turned off to loose me only to drive by later and wave. I don't think he wanted me to show him up in his big block Cobra. I did have my info posted on my car so he probably realized that I might make him look stupid or at least burst his bubble a little. I guess he was afraid of my 110 cubic inch monster