Gauging Interest Another Turbo kit option? - LotusTalk

JMS_Exige · 05-10-2009, 11:13 AM

Hi all!

Being new to owning a lotus has been great (06 Exige)

However i am not new to the world of aftermarket parts or forced induction. I want to contribute something to the betterment of lotus owners

I wanted to know if there was another turbo kit option how well would it be received? I know there is a few companies overseas and of only one here in the states (forcedfed). Now I am pretty good friends with the owner of Full-Race (Full-Race Motorsports) they make some of the best drag, drift and road racing turbo kits on the planet. I want to see if there is a market for another player in the lotus forced induction world. Full race I know can develop a all around winner for our lotus cars. I know everything is based on a price so lets say that this kit would be less what is on the market today. IF I can prove that there is an real interest he might just start some R&D for a Lotus Kit. In terms of EFI i think we can expect whats being done for the supercharged gang, some sort of ecu re-flash (to keep cost down). Again this is all still just talk, nothing solid.

Let me know what you all think and I will pass the issues, concerns, hp needs, etc. over to fullrace.

Thanks!

SweetDaddyD · 05-10-2009, 11:57 AM

It all comes down to the tune in the end.

I think in this crowd thats the important part and what your friend will need to have figured out before there is any interest.

There was already a guy that experimented with the customers cars, and blew all their engines up. He's not around anymore.

Demonized · 05-10-2009, 12:31 PM

What SDD said... If you're doing it, tune is the biggest factor.

"PES" and CharlieX are the only current, and reliable ECU tuners (reflashers...) we have currently.

JMS_Exige · 05-10-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonized

What SDD said... If you're doing it, tune is the biggest factor.

"PES" and CharlieX are the only current, and reliable ECU tuners (reflashers...) we have currently.

i was thinking we could get "PES" and CharlieX to do the tune that would be the best way. Having a lotus tuner and not a newbie making the tune was always the thought process. i think they would bring in CharlieX since he is closer to there headquarters.

Demonized · 05-10-2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMS_Exige

i was thinking we could get "PES" and CharlieX to do the tune that would be the best way. Having a lotus tuner and not a newbie making the tune was always the thought process. i think they would bring in CharlieX since he is closer to there headquarters.

That, and CharlieX is very well respected in this community.

Demonized · 05-10-2009, 01:45 PM

Just found this on the FMR website

SweetDaddyD · 05-10-2009, 02:45 PM

I would say if Charlie was onboard, I'd be interested. If not, then probably not so much.
If I ever go forced induction, it's going to be tuned by Charlie.

JMS_Exige · 05-11-2009, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetDaddyD

I would say if Charlie was onboard, I'd be interested. If not, then probably not so much.
If I ever go forced induction, it's going to be tuned by Charlie.

This is great!! keep it comming !

I too have the same opinion on the matter, I know lots of great tuners but Charlie knows the ECU of our car inside and out it would be silly not to have him apart of the project

Charlie, any interest ?

Dragon · 05-11-2009, 08:15 AM

I think the biggest issue you'll have is that most of the cars after 07 have superchargers from the factory.. Most of these people will not upgrade from that to a turbo. Your best customers would be the N/A guys, but even then many of them (Like me) have already purchased supercharger kits. For this reason I think your potential customer base would be quite small...

That being said it's always nice to have many options when it comes to building your car so I say go for it...

Iman · 05-11-2009, 08:19 AM

Full Race does great work, but as soon as the Rotrex kit comes out that will be the way to go.

Dragon · 05-11-2009, 08:24 AM

What I would LOVE to see is a plug and play harness kit for use with the Apexi' Power FC ... This would allow me to get a lot more crazy with the car and not have to install a 5k EMS...

JMS_Exige · 05-11-2009, 10:30 AM

Thanks guys !

choi0706 · 05-11-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iman

Full Race does great work, but as soon as the Rotrex kit comes out that will be the way to go.

+1 on rotrex.. add that with the DD manifold..

05-10-2009, 11:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
JMS_Exige Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 54	Gauging Interest Another Turbo kit option? Hi all! Being new to owning a lotus has been great (06 Exige) However i am not new to the world of aftermarket parts or forced induction. I want to contribute something to the betterment of lotus owners I wanted to know if there was another turbo kit option how well would it be received? I know there is a few companies overseas and of only one here in the states (forcedfed). Now I am pretty good friends with the owner of Full-Race (Full-Race Motorsports) they make some of the best drag, drift and road racing turbo kits on the planet. I want to see if there is a market for another player in the lotus forced induction world. Full race I know can develop a all around winner for our lotus cars. I know everything is based on a price so lets say that this kit would be less what is on the market today. IF I can prove that there is an real interest he might just start some R&D for a Lotus Kit. In terms of EFI i think we can expect whats being done for the supercharged gang, some sort of ecu re-flash (to keep cost down). Again this is all still just talk, nothing solid. Let me know what you all think and I will pass the issues, concerns, hp needs, etc. over to fullrace. Thanks!

05-10-2009, 12:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Demonized NOT ßANNED! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,546	What SDD said... If you're doing it, tune is the biggest factor. "PES" and CharlieX are the only current, and reliable ECU tuners (reflashers...) we have currently. __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Katana Supercharger, LSS Wheels, 2Bular exhaust & cat, rear panel delete, Cup Airbox, Volt / Oil temp gauge, Ohlins double adjustable coilovers, Dual Oil Coolers, S111 RTD Brace, Moroso Oil Pan, MicroMirror, S111 "V-Force" Harness bar, Manly Engine Mounts, Odyssey PC680 & RLS Bracket, Saikou Michi OCC, CF Scoops, CF Bootlid, CF Front Lip.

05-10-2009, 01:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Demonized NOT ßANNED! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,546	Just found this on the FMR website __________________ 2005 Saffron Yellow Elise, Katana Supercharger, LSS Wheels, 2Bular exhaust & cat, rear panel delete, Cup Airbox, Volt / Oil temp gauge, Ohlins double adjustable coilovers, Dual Oil Coolers, S111 RTD Brace, Moroso Oil Pan, MicroMirror, S111 "V-Force" Harness bar, Manly Engine Mounts, Odyssey PC680 & RLS Bracket, Saikou Michi OCC, CF Scoops, CF Bootlid, CF Front Lip.

05-11-2009, 08:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dragon Hydrocarbons Rule Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Okinawa Japan Posts: 1,747 Images: 2	I think the biggest issue you'll have is that most of the cars after 07 have superchargers from the factory.. Most of these people will not upgrade from that to a turbo. Your best customers would be the N/A guys, but even then many of them (Like me) have already purchased supercharger kits. For this reason I think your potential customer base would be quite small... That being said it's always nice to have many options when it comes to building your car so I say go for it... __________________ 2006 Exige; BWR Supercharger, Adj Sway Bar, Ohlins Suspension, BSK Oil Catch Can, Moroso Oil Pan, ORC Clutch, Custom Exhaust, Black Volk Racing CE28N's w/ Toyo R1R's, 2 piece rotors, Pagid Blue Pads, BSK Wet Carbon (Side Skirts, Front Lip Spoiler, Gas Cap Cover, Center Console, Door Panels), Dry Carbon rear Diffuser, Harness Bar, BWR Gauge Mount, OMP Superquadro steering wheel, LETSLA Short Shifter, V2arms, Rear Tow Link Brace, RLS Battery Bracket, BOE Tow Bar, Stickers.

05-11-2009, 08:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
Iman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 327	Full Race does great work, but as soon as the Rotrex kit comes out that will be the way to go. __________________ 2007 Exige S: Solar Yellow. Lotus Challenge Series #101 2009 Nissan GT-R: (Sold) 2007 International 8600: 450HP/1500TQ Tow vehicle 2008 Benz S550

05-10-2009, 11:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
SweetDaddyD BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 7,644 Images: 2	It all comes down to the tune in the end. I think in this crowd thats the important part and what your friend will need to have figured out before there is any interest. There was already a guy that experimented with the customers cars, and blew all their engines up. He's not around anymore.

05-10-2009, 02:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
SweetDaddyD BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 7,644 Images: 2	I would say if Charlie was onboard, I'd be interested. If not, then probably not so much. If I ever go forced induction, it's going to be tuned by Charlie.

05-11-2009, 08:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dragon Hydrocarbons Rule Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Okinawa Japan Posts: 1,747 Images: 2	What I would LOVE to see is a plug and play harness kit for use with the Apexi' Power FC ... This would allow me to get a lot more crazy with the car and not have to install a 5k EMS... __________________ 2006 Exige; BWR Supercharger, Adj Sway Bar, Ohlins Suspension, BSK Oil Catch Can, Moroso Oil Pan, ORC Clutch, Custom Exhaust, Black Volk Racing CE28N's w/ Toyo R1R's, 2 piece rotors, Pagid Blue Pads, BSK Wet Carbon (Side Skirts, Front Lip Spoiler, Gas Cap Cover, Center Console, Door Panels), Dry Carbon rear Diffuser, Harness Bar, BWR Gauge Mount, OMP Superquadro steering wheel, LETSLA Short Shifter, V2arms, Rear Tow Link Brace, RLS Battery Bracket, BOE Tow Bar, Stickers.

05-11-2009, 10:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
JMS_Exige Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 54	Thanks guys !

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