katana - LotusTalk

xcusemi · 08-02-2008, 10:17 PM

Hello All:

Since the Katana is already release for almost 2 yrs now, I would like o get some update from the fellow elisetalk of who has put the most mileage on the Katana. Is there any problems regarding to the Katana that can not be solve?

Thanks in advance!

plastique999 · 08-02-2008, 11:56 PM

+1 ... I'm about to pull the trigger on this as well....would be nice to hear some summaries

Rice_Patrol · 08-03-2008, 04:16 AM

mine issitting here waithing for me to put it in. I'll let you know in a week.

Darth G-F · 08-03-2008, 06:26 AM

I gained 51rwhp with the Katana on my car. I did 3 track days so far, driving the **** out of it. I have no issues at all.

The only problem I have is that it is not enough and I'm thinking of adding the Charlie kit on top of the Katana for another 30rwhp.

Whatever everybody is saying, the GT3 will still pull away in the straights. Slowly. But still, you can't keep up with them in the long straights. Even the new R8, I couldn't keep up with in the long straight here at Tremblant, even though I was faster overall.

We need a stage 2. That's exactly how I view Charlie's kit.

ZTEC · 08-03-2008, 06:44 AM

I love the Katana and the difference with this kit over the others is the tune is safe and the alternator is in the proper location away from the header! No problems - car runs like a bat outta hell!

plastique999 · 08-03-2008, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth G-F

I gained 51rwhp with the Katana on my car. I did 3 track days so far, driving the **** out of it. I have no issues at all.

The only problem I have is that it is not enough and I'm thinking of adding the Charlie kit on top of the Katana for another 30rwhp.

Whatever everybody is saying, the GT3 will still pull away in the straights. Slowly. But still, you can't keep up with them in the long straights. Even the new R8, I couldn't keep up with in the long straight here at Tremblant, even though I was faster overall.

We need a stage 2. That's exactly how I view Charlie's kit.

Good feedback...that is what I was concerned about....losing to other higher HP cars on the straights on the track.

I noticed you're in Canada, so I'm not sure how long the straights are compared to the ones here in Cali (Buttonwillow, CA ROVAL)

tdl · 08-04-2008, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth G-F

I gained 51rwhp with the Katana on my car. I did 3 track days so far, driving the **** out of it. I have no issues at all.

The only problem I have is that it is not enough and I'm thinking of adding the Charlie kit on top of the Katana for another 30rwhp.

Whatever everybody is saying, the GT3 will still pull away in the straights. Slowly. But still, you can't keep up with them in the long straights. Even the new R8, I couldn't keep up with in the long straight here at Tremblant, even though I was faster overall.

We need a stage 2. That's exactly how I view Charlie's kit.

Well put. I feel the same way. We need a stage II. I've done one track day with it and had no issues. Temperature never exceeded 200.

JUNGLISTluder · 08-04-2008, 07:22 AM

My Greddy/BOE kit (same as Katana) has been very reliable. Its been on the vehicle for 4 or 5 months and 2k miles.

Only gripe is the power is not as much as I was expecting. I still can't pull away in straights from cars that I was even with before (e36 M3).

Darth G-F · 08-04-2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastique999

Good feedback...that is what I was concerned about....losing to other higher HP cars on the straights on the track.

I noticed you're in Canada, so I'm not sure how long the straights are compared to the ones here in Cali (Buttonwillow, CA ROVAL)

Well the track I'm talking about, I reach 200mph (120mph) in my Katana Elise. When I drove a F430 on that same track I reached 230kph (144mph). I have a feeling the GT3s are doing close to 220kph (135+mph).

With another 30-40rwhp I guess I could get to 130mph and would probably gain back whatever I lost under braking.

I was about .5sec a lap slower than the GT3 and .5sec faster than the R8. All in the instructor group. A stage 2 would put me ahead of them for good. I think.

scottyb · 08-06-2008, 12:48 PM

Well I've had the 06 Katna kit in for quite some time. It has about 7500 miles on it. The only issue I had was a boost leak which was my fault where I attached a boost gauge. The leak did rob me of some horsepower and caused a bucking on lift after boost. However, I was still able to keep up with the BWR cars with that huge leak. But since I fixed that leak, the car has been running flawlessly. The tune is excellent and OEM in quality. This past weekend I had so much faith in the settup, that I drove all the way up to Vermont and back.

I highly recomend the Katana with Charlie's tune. Oh and I have the stock katana kit installed on my elise with an ExigeS exhaust & Cat.

elise/europa · 08-07-2008, 02:35 PM

I break the oil level gage tube, reweld it, and go.

My catalyser block off, removed it.

My throttle body (drive by wire) had a loose screw inside causing engine malfunction. I put back the throttle body on rubber (original one), and put glue on screw to be certain they will not loose anymore. Screw inside the black cover, you need to unclip the cover.

Broke a decat tube from Larini, too much heat.

The car run good, very happy, honestly. But take a lot of fuel on the track, I measured it one time a 6.5 miles per gallons.

charliex · 08-07-2008, 02:37 PM

check the link in my sig, it'll help improve fuel consumption a bit.

elise/europa · 08-07-2008, 03:43 PM

Hello Charlie,

What is a "sig"? Or where I can find it?

Regards

charliex · 08-07-2008, 03:58 PM

signature, click this -> http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f171...-2006-a-59847/

BrianK · 08-07-2008, 04:12 PM

My car has had the same blower as the Katana for quite some time & Charlie's tune for several months now. I bought it with around 12K miles and the SC already installed. It now has almost 21K miles.

I've driven the car, with supercharger, from Los Angeles, CA to Aspen, CO & back with no issue (about 2000 miles). I've taken numerous shorter road trips since. I've driven from sea level to 12,000 ft - no problems. I don't drive like a maniac most of the time, but when I ask for it, it gives it to me. It's really quite a thing.

Whatever route you go to source the blower, be sure it's being run by charlie's tune.

Bavarian Motorist · 08-07-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JUNGLISTluder

My Greddy/BOE kit (same as Katana) has been very reliable. Its been on the vehicle for 4 or 5 months and 2k miles.

Only gripe is the power is not as much as I was expecting. I still can't pull away in straights from cars that I was even with before (e36 M3).

Can't pull away from an E36 M3 in your SC Elise??? WTF... I can pull away from one in my stock Elise.

Is it a modded M3??

trav34 · 08-07-2008, 05:11 PM

What kind of fuel consumption would we talking about for a daily driven elise?

charliex · 08-07-2008, 05:22 PM

the katana's have load dependant VVTLi switching and 'off load' fuel/spark maps for daily driving that helps to improve fuel mileage.

so about 24 / 29

trav34 · 08-07-2008, 05:56 PM

cool, sounds pretty similar to what I'm seeing now.

trav34 · 08-07-2008, 06:15 PM

what kind of fuel mileage & everyday driveability could be expected from the new, yet to be named, intercooled supercharger kit that is forthcoming as compared to the katana?

08-02-2008, 10:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
xcusemi Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 177	katana Hello All: Since the Katana is already release for almost 2 yrs now, I would like o get some update from the fellow elisetalk of who has put the most mileage on the Katana. Is there any problems regarding to the Katana that can not be solve? Thanks in advance!

08-02-2008, 11:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
plastique999 Form and Function Join Date: May 2008 Location: Diamond Bar, CA Posts: 1,364	+1 ... I'm about to pull the trigger on this as well....would be nice to hear some summaries __________________ www.FaceNBody.com 2005 Lotus Elise: Larini SE exhaust,HID's,turn signals delete,rear fins delete, CFside scoops, CFbinnacle,CFcenter console,Zoom CF mirror,Gut Aero wing,Gut front splitter,CF 5-element diffusor,Exige mesh, Ohlins DA,RAC monolites,Toyo R888's,Pagid RS Blues,CO painted calipers,SS lines,Reverie XC CF seat, Reverie CF steering wheel,V force harness bar,Schroth Profi II 6 pt harness,shifter re-Enforcer, BWR key to BWR S/C! 2007 E63 M6 (many mods...)

08-03-2008, 04:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rice_Patrol Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Murrieta, ca Posts: 86	mine issitting here waithing for me to put it in. I'll let you know in a week. __________________ 2005 KG Lotus Elise HT , Ohlins, CF seat, Schroth harnesses, fire system, elec killswitch, Black SSR's, HID's, driving lights, and Russel Carr's signature(bet yours doesn't have that), more to come soon!!! Now burt to the ground. 01 BMW M5, 02 BMW M3 :sold:, 02 Camaro Z28, 02 Silverado 2500 HD 8.1L, 98 BMW 740il, 76 BMW 535iR,70 Chevelle, 03 TL1000R

08-03-2008, 06:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Darth G-F Liberté! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,084	I gained 51rwhp with the Katana on my car. I did 3 track days so far, driving the ** out of it. I have no issues at all. The only problem I have is that it is not enough and I'm thinking of adding the Charlie kit on top of the Katana for another 30rwhp. Whatever everybody is saying, the GT3 will still pull away in the straights. Slowly. But still, you can't keep up with them in the long straights. Even the new R8, I couldn't keep up with in the long straight here at Tremblant, even though I was faster overall. We need a stage 2. That's exactly how I view Charlie's kit. __________________ BMWCCA Instructor VanDiemen F2000 2008 BMW 328Xi 2006 Lotus Elise Chrome Orange Ronin** Katana

08-03-2008, 06:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
ZTEC Third Eye Open Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,507 Images: 3	I love the Katana and the difference with this kit over the others is the tune is safe and the alternator is in the proper location away from the header! No problems - car runs like a bat outta hell! __________________ Bone Stock

08-04-2008, 07:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
JUNGLISTluder High Roller Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 692 Images: 6	My Greddy/BOE kit (same as Katana) has been very reliable. Its been on the vehicle for 4 or 5 months and 2k miles. Only gripe is the power is not as much as I was expecting. I still can't pull away in straights from cars that I was even with before (e36 M3). __________________ 06 Lotus Elise - AR/Blk, Touring, Premium, TC, HT, DRL Delete, X-Pel, TS Pro1 Exhaust, TS Pro1 Intake, BBmod, Saikou Michi OCC, 6000k HIDs, Stealth Bulbs, 07+ Letters, Re-grooved Bilsteins, LG Stone Guards, CR Engine Covers, S111 Folding Tow Hook, FF CF Spoiler, 17" PIAA FR-7s, CharlieX 06 ECU V2.0, Greddy/BOE Supercharger 88 BMW 528is - Blue/Llama Beige, M20 stroker motor, Alpina SW, 3.73 LSD, BavAuto Springs, Bilstein Sports, M3 SSK, 16x8 BBS, 225/245 tires, shadowline

08-06-2008, 12:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
scottyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,564	Well I've had the 06 Katna kit in for quite some time. It has about 7500 miles on it. The only issue I had was a boost leak which was my fault where I attached a boost gauge. The leak did rob me of some horsepower and caused a bucking on lift after boost. However, I was still able to keep up with the BWR cars with that huge leak. But since I fixed that leak, the car has been running flawlessly. The tune is excellent and OEM in quality. This past weekend I had so much faith in the settup, that I drove all the way up to Vermont and back. I highly recomend the Katana with Charlie's tune. Oh and I have the stock katana kit installed on my elise with an ExigeS exhaust & Cat.

08-07-2008, 02:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
elise/europa Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: montreal Posts: 289	I break the oil level gage tube, reweld it, and go. My catalyser block off, removed it. My throttle body (drive by wire) had a loose screw inside causing engine malfunction. I put back the throttle body on rubber (original one), and put glue on screw to be certain they will not loose anymore. Screw inside the black cover, you need to unclip the cover. Broke a decat tube from Larini, too much heat. The car run good, very happy, honestly. But take a lot of fuel on the track, I measured it one time a 6.5 miles per gallons. __________________ ____________________________________ Elise 2006, white, Katana Europa 1969, green, H22A, 194 whp, 1550# CONFIGTECH.ca / Solidworks

08-07-2008, 02:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
charliex disproving HD MTBF daily Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 8,290	check the link in my sig, it'll help improve fuel consumption a bit. __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100 ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it.

08-07-2008, 03:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
elise/europa Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: montreal Posts: 289	Hello Charlie, What is a "sig"? Or where I can find it? Regards __________________ ____________________________________ Elise 2006, white, Katana Europa 1969, green, H22A, 194 whp, 1550# CONFIGTECH.ca / Solidworks

08-07-2008, 03:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
charliex disproving HD MTBF daily Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 8,290	signature, click this -> http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f171...-2006-a-59847/ __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100 ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it.

08-07-2008, 04:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
BrianK very dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles (Highland Park) Posts: 2,330	My car has had the same blower as the Katana for quite some time & Charlie's tune for several months now. I bought it with around 12K miles and the SC already installed. It now has almost 21K miles. I've driven the car, with supercharger, from Los Angeles, CA to Aspen, CO & back with no issue (about 2000 miles). I've taken numerous shorter road trips since. I've driven from sea level to 12,000 ft - no problems. I don't drive like a maniac most of the time, but when I ask for it, it gives it to me. It's really quite a thing. Whatever route you go to source the blower, be sure it's being run by charlie's tune. __________________ Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. Last edited by BrianK : 08-07-2008 at 04:21 PM.

08-07-2008, 05:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
trav34 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 69	What kind of fuel consumption would we talking about for a daily driven elise?

08-07-2008, 05:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
charliex disproving HD MTBF daily Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas , NV Posts: 8,290	the katana's have load dependant VVTLi switching and 'off load' fuel/spark maps for daily driving that helps to improve fuel mileage. so about 24 / 29 __________________ Black Exige S - http://goth.am 265 Mule / Elan M100 ECU Tuning, http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39660 Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it.

08-07-2008, 05:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
trav34 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 69	cool, sounds pretty similar to what I'm seeing now.

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08-07-2008, 06:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
trav34 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 69	what kind of fuel mileage & everyday driveability could be expected from the new, yet to be named, intercooled supercharger kit that is forthcoming as compared to the katana?